Doc Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Don't forget the ref int in the Rams game I think. I still think Bill's player was down. Not sure which play that was, but you remind me that there was a face mask by Donald on his sack/fumble of Josh, on the play where he got the personal foul. 1
Warcodered Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, letsgoteam said: With contract extension talk: "What if I told you a QB left money on the table so his teammates could eat." Im not saying he should/could/would. But could you imagine how the legend of JA would grow from that! It's not realistic/fair to expect that from him more likely he does something similar to Mahomes and gets a long deal that stretches it out.
letsgoteam Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: It's not realistic/fair to expect that from him more likely he does something similar to Mahomes and gets a long deal that stretches it out. Totally agree. Im just talking out loud about things.
The Wiz Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Has there been a “predict the contract” thread yet? I feel like that will be fun, or terrifying. Any chance Terry can just drill another well for him?
Franchiseneedsme Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: I would personally go to Beane’s house and be his servant for life if he pulled that off (assuming Josh continues on his current trajectory) If he wont take a deal like this the Bills have no incentive to sigh a long term deal now. Just pick up the 5 year option and franchise tag him twice. If Josh wants to be a Bill for life and get $160m Guaranteed and a $50M signing Bonus in a couple months he will sign a deal like this now
Dkollidas Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Just curious for Allen’s stat line: 30 Pass TD’s 8 Rush TD’s 1TD Rec 39 Total TD’s Correct? 1
JY422 Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Doc said: It’s 15 official turnovers but really 12 are on Josh. I don't even think 12 are on Josh. the pick last week came after Heyward bullied Morse back into JA and hit his arm. Nothing JA could do about that one. there have been a couple others that weren't his fault as well. I'd say he was at fault on 8 or 9. However... there have been several other "missed" opportunities by defenders this year. The forced throw to Davis in the end zone tonight was a perfect example. The Denver CB had both hands on the ball. would've been a tough play but he probably should have made it. All in all, however many turnovers he's been responsible for... the good plays FAR outweigh the bad ones this season.
MJS Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, JY422 said: I don't even think 12 are on Josh. the pick last week came after Heyward bullied Morse back into JA and hit his arm. Nothing JA could do about that one. there have been a couple others that weren't his fault as well. I'd say he was at fault on 8 or 9. However... there have been several other "missed" opportunities by defenders this year. The forced throw to Davis in the end zone tonight was a perfect example. The Denver CB had both hands on the ball. would've been a tough play but he probably should have made it. All in all, however many turnovers he's been responsible for... the good plays FAR outweigh the bad ones this season. Every QB has ones like that, though. The only INT that should be considered is that COMPLETED PASS in the Rams game. That wasn't even remotely an INT. That's the only abnormal one. All the others have plausible explanations for why they happened regardless of who's fault it was. 3
transplantbillsfan Posted December 20, 2020 Author Posted December 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Dkollidas said: Just curious for Allen’s stat line: 30 Pass TD’s 8 Rush TD’s 1TD Rec 39 Total TD’s Correct? Correct
Warcodered Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2923192-bills-are-a-problem-and-josh-allen-has-made-nfl-mvp-a-3-man-race 2 1 1
SydneyBillsFan Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Fastest in NFL history to get to 60 pass TD + 20 rush TD (43 games) 3 2
GunnerBill Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Doc said: It’s 15 official turnovers but really 12 are on Josh. And most every QB has a couple of those. The botched snap that cost the Texans against the Colts the other week goes against Watson despite the centre snapping it at his shoelaces. The INT against the Rams is the one that I really think is out of the ordinary and should be deducted for comparison's sake. 45 minutes ago, Warcodered said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2923192-bills-are-a-problem-and-josh-allen-has-made-nfl-mvp-a-3-man-race To be honest I have Josh right there with Mahomes and slightly ahead of Rodgers. 3
CSBill Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Warcodered said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2923192-bills-are-a-problem-and-josh-allen-has-made-nfl-mvp-a-3-man-race Good find and enjoyable early morning read, thanks Warcodered. 1
JoPoy88 Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Warcodered said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2923192-bills-are-a-problem-and-josh-allen-has-made-nfl-mvp-a-3-man-race Always the man @Warcodered great find. 1
Doc Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: And most every QB has a couple of those. The botched snap that cost the Texans against the Colts the other week goes against Watson despite the centre snapping it at his shoelaces. The INT against the Rams is the one that I really think is out of the ordinary and should be deducted for comparison's sake. True. But that shouldn't count against them. A bad handoff is on the center. And Moss' fumble was on Moss alone.
GunnerBill Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc said: True. But that shouldn't count against them. A bad handoff is on the center. And Moss' fumble was on Moss alone. I don't disagree but in terms of comparison I mean. If comparing turnovers among the top QBs I'd discount one for the INT against the Rams because that was a freak play. Those others are more common across the league (albeit I agree they shouldn't go against QBs across the board).
machine gun kelly Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Well, as of now he’s pushed his career completion % up to 61.2%, amd if you just take his 4000, and divide by 14, then avg. out the next two, Allen will be up to 4573 yards for the year. His lifetime professional % will go up too, and maybe these schmuck talking heads just cannot keep saying Allen is garbage or not to be trusted, etc. OP, I like how you keep this thread going each week so thanks bud. 1
Doc Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't disagree but in terms of comparison I mean. If comparing turnovers among the top QBs I'd discount one for the INT against the Rams because that was a freak play. Those others are more common across the league (albeit I agree they shouldn't go against QBs across the board). Yup. I just don't understand the logic behind charging the QB with a fumble for both a botched snap and the RB failing to secure the handoff properly. Josh never possessed the ball on the muffed snap but did on the muffed handoff so theoretically only one of those should count anyway.
transplantbillsfan Posted December 20, 2020 Author Posted December 20, 2020 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: And most every QB has a couple of those. The botched snap that cost the Texans against the Colts the other week goes against Watson despite the centre snapping it at his shoelaces. The INT against the Rams is the one that I really think is out of the ordinary and should be deducted for comparison's sake. And on top of that, there are also the "Interceptions-that-weren't." Josh has had a few of those this year, including one last night. I'm sure he'd take responsibility for all 15 turnovers as 15 turnovers is what he has right now. Nothing wrong with 39 TDs to 15 turnovers when you're 11-3 and the AFC East champions. 1
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