Ryan Fitzpatrick: Hall of Famer? or First Ballot HoFer?

[Neo]

No, but few things would make me happier.  

[machine gun kelly]

3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Career awards, highlights, and records

• NFL Rookie of the Week (Week 12, 2005)
• AFC Offensive Player of the Month (September 2011)[165]
• 5× AFC Offensive Player of the Week (Week 13, 2014; Week 14, Week 16, 2015; Week 2, 2016; Week 16, 2019)
• 3× NFC Offensive Player of the Week (Week 12, 2005; Week 1, 2018; Week 2, 2018)
• 2× FedEx Air NFL Player of the Week (Week 13, 2014; Week 1, 2018)
• Castrol Edge Clutch Performer of the Week (Week 16, 2015)[166]
• Ed Block Courage Award (2015)[167]
• Miami Dolphins Dan Marino Most Valuable Player Award (2019)[168]
• Miami Dolphins Don Shula Leadership Award (2020)[169]

NFL records

• Most consecutive regular-season games with at least two touchdown passes in one stadium during a season: 9 (MetLife Stadium, 2015)[170]
• Most career passing touchdowns by an Ivy League graduate: 223[171]
• First quarterback to start a game against one opponent (Jacksonville Jaguars) with six different teams (St. Louis Rams, Buffalo Bills, Houston Texans, New York Jets, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Miami Dolphins)[145]
• First quarterback to throw four touchdown passes in a single game with six different teams (Buffalo Bills, Tennessee Titans, Houston Texans, New York Jets, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Miami Dolphins)
• First quarterback to start and win against same opponent (Jacksonville Jaguars) with six different teams[145]
• Most touchdown passes of at least 50 yards through a team's first two games: 4 (tied with Joe Namath)[172]
• Most consecutive games of 400 yards passing and four touchdowns to begin a season: 2 (2018)[173]
• Most consecutive games of 400 yards passing to begin a season: 3 (2018)[174]
• Most consecutive games of 400 yards passing: 3 (2018)[174]
• Most games with at least 400 passing yards in a single season: 4 (tied with Dan Marino and Peyton Manning)[175]
• Only player to pass for a touchdown against one opponent (Eagles) with seven different franchises (Rams, Bengals, Bills, Texans, Jets, Buccaneers, Dolphins) in his career.[176]
• Only player to rush for a touchdown for eight different teams (Rams, Bengals, Bills, Titans, Texans, Jets, Buccaneers, Dolphins)

Bills franchise records

• Longest touchdown pass by a Bills player: 98 yards (against Jacksonville Jaguars on November 22, 2009; tied with Josh Allen)[177]

Texans franchise records

• Most passing touchdowns in a single game: 6 (against Tennessee Titans on November 30, 2014)[178]

Jets franchise records

• Most passing touchdowns in a season: 31 (2015)[179]

Buccaneers franchise records

• Only quarterback with consecutive weeks of 400 yards passing: Weeks 1–3, 2018[180]
• Most games with at least 400 passing yards in a season: 4 (2018)[181]
• Most consecutive weeks of having a passer rating of at least 140.0 in a season: 2 (2018)[182]

 

3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Career awards, highlights, and records

• NFL Rookie of the Week (Week 12, 2005)
• AFC Offensive Player of the Month (September 2011)[165]
• 5× AFC Offensive Player of the Week (Week 13, 2014; Week 14, Week 16, 2015; Week 2, 2016; Week 16, 2019)
• 3× NFC Offensive Player of the Week (Week 12, 2005; Week 1, 2018; Week 2, 2018)
• 2× FedEx Air NFL Player of the Week (Week 13, 2014; Week 1, 2018)
• Castrol Edge Clutch Performer of the Week (Week 16, 2015)[166]
• Ed Block Courage Award (2015)[167]
• Miami Dolphins Dan Marino Most Valuable Player Award (2019)[168]
• Miami Dolphins Don Shula Leadership Award (2020)[169]

NFL records

• Most consecutive regular-season games with at least two touchdown passes in one stadium during a season: 9 (MetLife Stadium, 2015)[170]
• Most career passing touchdowns by an Ivy League graduate: 223[171]
• First quarterback to start a game against one opponent (Jacksonville Jaguars) with six different teams (St. Louis Rams, Buffalo Bills, Houston Texans, New York Jets, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Miami Dolphins)[145]
• First quarterback to throw four touchdown passes in a single game with six different teams (Buffalo Bills, Tennessee Titans, Houston Texans, New York Jets, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Miami Dolphins)
• First quarterback to start and win against same opponent (Jacksonville Jaguars) with six different teams[145]
• Most touchdown passes of at least 50 yards through a team's first two games: 4 (tied with Joe Namath)[172]
• Most consecutive games of 400 yards passing and four touchdowns to begin a season: 2 (2018)[173]
• Most consecutive games of 400 yards passing to begin a season: 3 (2018)[174]
• Most consecutive games of 400 yards passing: 3 (2018)[174]
• Most games with at least 400 passing yards in a single season: 4 (tied with Dan Marino and Peyton Manning)[175]
• Only player to pass for a touchdown against one opponent (Eagles) with seven different franchises (Rams, Bengals, Bills, Texans, Jets, Buccaneers, Dolphins) in his career.[176]
• Only player to rush for a touchdown for eight different teams (Rams, Bengals, Bills, Titans, Texans, Jets, Buccaneers, Dolphins)

Bills franchise records

• Longest touchdown pass by a Bills player: 98 yards (against Jacksonville Jaguars on November 22, 2009; tied with Josh Allen)[177]

Texans franchise records

• Most passing touchdowns in a single game: 6 (against Tennessee Titans on November 30, 2014)[178]

Jets franchise records

• Most passing touchdowns in a season: 31 (2015)[179]

Buccaneers franchise records

• Only quarterback with consecutive weeks of 400 yards passing: Weeks 1–3, 2018[180]
• Most games with at least 400 passing yards in a season: 4 (2018)[181]
• Most consecutive weeks of having a passer rating of at least 140.0 in a season: 2 (2018)[182]

Dawk, he’s 67-98 as a career.  Not exactly a HOF career.

 

Hes a losing QB.  A great guy, and avg. at best even in Buffalo.  I love him too, but Eli Manning was just passed over with two SB wins against TB12.  Eli Manning is also 117-117 career wide.

 

Whether you want or not, he’ll never even be considered for the Bills WOF.  It’s just never ever going to happen.  He’s a journeyman.

[Don Otreply]

On 9/25/2020 at 10:29 AM, Blokestradamus said:

 

Here's a question.

 

If Ryan Fitzpatrick had entrance music, what would it be?

Jump around, House of pain, 

 

just sayin, 

[without a drought]

Right after Chris Watson goes in as a punt catcher.

[Logic]

[Mango]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

 

Dawk, he’s 67-98 as a career.  Not exactly a HOF career.

 

Hes a losing QB.  A great guy, and avg. at best even in Buffalo.  I love him too, but Eli Manning was just passed over with two SB wins against TB12.  Eli Manning is also 117-117 career wide.

 

Whether you want or not, he’ll never even be considered for the Bills WOF.  It’s just never ever going to happen.  He’s a journeyman.

Wins and losses are team stats, not QB stats. So maybe shove that argument right back into your pie hole!

 

Imagine seeing a detailed 20+ point list of a careers worth NFL records and being so immature to just respond with “bUt ThE wInS aNd LoSsEs”.

 

[GunnerBill]

I do believe it should be what is says on the tin - the Hall of FAME and not the Hall of Great which is what it is. 

 

If it were actually about fame I agree you can't tell the story of the 2010s in the NFL without Fitz.

[Fleezoid]

7 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

If Ryan Fitzpatrick has a single sister (without the chest hair) I'd marry her on the spot.

 

But keep the beard? 

 

[folz]

5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

• First quarterback to throw four touchdown passes in a single game with six different teams (Buffalo Bills, Tennessee Titans, Houston Texans, New York Jets, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Miami Dolphins)

 

👆The above stat is actually really crazy when you think about it.

 

 

-Ryan is 35th on the all-time passing list (There are 22 HOF QBs with fewer passing yards---but, of course Fitzmagic played at a time where QBs threw a lot more).

-Fitz is 39th on the all-time passing TDs list (There are 16 HOF QBs with fewer passing TDs---again, gotta look at era and time played too).

 

His numbers are actually almost identical to Jim Kelly's stats. And Jim never won a Super Bowl...but, obviously had much more post-season success (and 4 SB appearances---with a revolutionary offense).

 

I would love to see it happen for Ryan (to go in as the greatest journeyman QB ever---I mean, that is something). But, a sub  .500 record and never making it to or playing in the playoffs would seem to kill his chances, imo. People remember the post-season. He is the QB with the most passing yards and passing TDs without a playoff appearance. In his defense though, being the journeyman that he was, he was basically shipped from one of the worst teams in the league, to another one of the worst teams in the league throughout his career. He was never really given a chance in a good franchise, with a stable coaching staff, and a good team around him. Are there other QBs in the HOF who have the stats but not the team success? 

 

Now to the question of can you write the story of the NFL in that era without that player. And really, I think you could write the story without Ryan (he might not make the cut if it were a documentary), it just wouldn't be nearly as much fun if you left him out.

 

And I actually wouldn't mind if they put him on the Wall of Fame one day (though there are plenty of guys in front of him in line still---and I get why some people wouldn't think he is worthy of that honor). I mean, yeah, he only played 4 losing seasons in Buffalo, but honestly, despite the team's records, he was a bright spot in the darkness of the drought. And he has really embraced Buffalo, both while he played here and since he retired. Pretty amazing to kind of be a legend in a city that you only played 4 losing seasons for. But again, lots of guys ahead of him still (Butch Byrd, Kyle Williams, Cornelius Bennett, Eric Moulds, Ted Washington, Fred Jackson, Brian Moorman).

 

 

Not sure if this thread is tongue-in-cheek, but I like it either way (and that you've kept the drive alive). I don't think he'll ever make the HOF, but I do think you can make a case for him at least.

Edited Friday at 10:47 PM by folz

[PonyBoy]

How funny would the induction ceremony be if he gets on stage, Rips off jacket to bare chest and he had Go Bills markered on his chest? 😀

 

[damj]

Canton NEEDS some FitzMagic!

[Nephilim17]

2 hours ago, Fleezoid said:

 

But keep the beard? 

 

Absolutely! It turns me on to shave a lady!

[Wizard]

Not sure why this one popped up recently.

 

Kudos for a thread from 2020 being available.

 

In regard to Ryan Fitzpatrick, let's keep it simple. Sick beard, funny guy, and a highly successful individual.

 

Definitely outplayed his draft status and an all-time fun Bills guy.

 

Bills Wall of Fame?....Sure.

 

NFL Hall of Fame...No.

 

The Hall already has a lot of very good players in it that don't belong (very good is very good but not great).

 

Fitzpatrick was a good player, but let's set aside fandom's myopic perspective. Fitzpatrick is not going to the Hall of Fame.

 

 

[dgrochester55]

I do like fun, and I do like Fitz, but I do not think that he is a Hall of Famer.  He was one of the best backups of a time, which resulted in him often finding his way back to starting, but at no point was he considered a top 10QB, let alone at an elite top Tier.  To add more perspective, Philip Rivers was a good QB who probably won't get in. Would you have started Fitz over Rivers over a long term period of time?

 

Fitz's best chance of getting in would be as an announcer if he were to stick around for a couple of decades and stand out as one of the best and most entertaining.

Edited Saturday at 01:25 PM by dgrochester55

[reddogblitz]

If Eli Manning can't get in there's no place for Fitz.

[Since1981]

Fitz is a great character. Best second choice QB in history. Dude has seen a lot of teams

Not HoF. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

On 9/25/2020 at 10:15 AM, Heavy Kevi said:

Greatest non-franchise/journeyman QB...

 

Kurt Warner comes to mind.

 

 

 

Love Fitz though. His roast of Fred Jackson belongs in some type of HOF

 

Kurt Warner was far from a journeyman, he won a SB and made it to 2 others. Did Fitz even lead a team to the playoffs? Maybe once? No he won't ever make the HOF imo.