buffalosean Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) So far so great. The next four games are tough and we will see where Josh is at this point in 2020. Does Beane look to sign Josh to a longer contract now or do we wait? Just asking your opinion. If he keeps growing and producing do we extend him sooner rather than later? Extend him this year after a good season? Wait till the option year? If he is the future franchise QB maybe we should lock him up and give him our full trust. I know its early but maybe we can get a good contract for the team by reacting quickly and not at the end of the current deal. Just throwing it out there. Trust in Beane? Current Contract Josh Allen signed a 4 year, $21,183,038 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $13,485,846 signing bonus, $21,183,038 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $5,295,760. In 2020, Allen will earn a base salary of $750,000 and a roster bonus of $1,745,730, while carrying a cap hit of $5,867,191 and a dead cap value of $12,517,249. CONTRACT TERMS:4 yr(s) / $21,183,038 SIGNING BONUS$13,485,846 AVERAGE SALARY$5,295,760 GTD AT SIGN:$21,183,038 TOTAL GTD:$21,183,038 FREE AGENT:2023 / UFA BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING ROSTER CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH 2018 22 $480,000 $3,371,461 - $3,851,461 $21,183,038 $13,965,846($13,965,846) 2019 23 $570,000 $3,371,461 $872,865 $4,814,326 $17,331,575 $1,494,715($15,460,561) 2020 24 $750,000 $3,371,461 $1,745,730 $5,867,191 $12,517,249 $2,495,730($17,956,291) 2021 25 $920,000 $3,371,461 $2,618,596 $6,910,057 $6,740,057 $3,538,596($21,494,887) 2022 26 - - - - - - 2023 27 UFA Edited September 23, 2020 by buffalosean Title change 1
Dragoon Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 No! Easier to win a super bowl when the QB isn’t making $30 million a season. 4 1
PirateHookerMD Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 He is a team first guy, don't rush it. They will use the 5th year option and then extend. 2 1
jletha Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 WAIT! We have done this before with a QB that played well in the first couple games, it did not end well. We have the 5th year option so Josh isnt going anywhere. Let him play this year and then we can excercise the option and negotiate in the meanwhile. WAIT. 3 1
GunnerBill Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) If he keeps playing at this level then yes, without question. And before someone replies seeing "you keep setting unreasonable expectations!" I don't mean he has to keep up the pace numbers wise. I mean if his performance levels stay close to what they have been as a passer through 2 weeks it is a no brainer. Even if there is at some point a natural levelling out numbers wise. EDIT: they will pick up the option but the question is do they then extend before year 4. The trend - Wentz, Goff, Mahomes, Watson... is that you do. If Josh keeps playing at a high level the Bills will extend him. Edited September 23, 2020 by GunnerBill 3 1 1
ALLEN1QB Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 Always so easy to spend other peoples money.
No_Matter_What Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 I have no idea but it seems that trend now is to sign all good QBs after year 3, so I guess Beane will try to do the same, provided that Allen plays on high level whole season and resigning him becomes no-brainer. If not, then it becomes interesting. Hopefully there will be no doubts that he is FQB.
buffalosean Posted September 23, 2020 Author Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said: He is a team first guy, don't rush it. They will use the 5th year option and then extend. Definitely he is. Just thought maybe we could save future Millions for the team by doing it early so he does not have any second thoughts. Agents do not care about loyalty.
eball Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 No contract extension discussions will take place until after the 2020 season at the earliest, IMO. More importantly, I fully believe Josh is the type of player who will not insist upon a “highest paid” deal and will do what is necessary to allow the Bills to continue to keep a good team around him, similar to how Mahomes took less than he could have. We are so freaking lucky to have gotten the type of player and human being Josh is. Team first all the way. 7
MarkyMannn Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said: He is a team first guy, Nobody is team first when there is $30-$40m on the line. At least I wouldn't be 😀 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, buffalosean said: So far so great. The next four games are tough and we will see where Josh is at this point in 2020. Does Beane look to sign Josh to a longer contract now or do we wait? Just asking your opinion. If he keeps growing and producing do we extend him sooner rather than later? Extend him this year after a good season? Wait till the option year? If he is the future franchise QB maybe we should lock him up and give him our full trust. I know its early but maybe we can get a good contract for the team by reacting quickly and not at the end of the current deal. Just throwing it out there. Trust in Beane? You were right there on Spotrac. There IS no cap space in 2020 or 2021!!! Search Cap Space and you will see the conversations on the topic. Josh won't be able to get BIG $$$$ until 2022 Edited September 23, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1
DCofNC Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 In theory, This is the year to do it, before prices go up. That said, with Maholmes already signed, I don’t think it matters anymore, that’s the top of the market. I would wait until after the season and make a judgment. 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 The Sign Tre thread --- Tre White's contract is on the books in Spotrac. With that recorded 2021 Estimated cap space 2.2 million 2022 Estimated cap space $94,390,310 If they can they will wait until 2022 for the Bug bucks
buffalosean Posted September 23, 2020 Author Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: The Sign Tre thread --- Tre White's contract is on the books in Spotrac. With that recorded 2021 Estimated cap space 2.2 million 2022 Estimated cap space $94,390,310 If they can they will wait until 2022 for the Bug bucks Makes a ton of sense. Thanks. 1
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 The timing will be right when it's right. Teams don't let Franchise Qb's leave the building.
ghostwriter Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 I think you wait.. sure you could lock him up for pennies now but that wouldn’t be fair to Allen.. Right now I could see him getting $30M a year.. in a year or two if he continues on he’ll get $40M-$45M a year.. I think you wait a year and then you extend him.. pay him what he’s worth.. it’s the right thing to do.. 3
IgotBILLStopay Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 we will just follow the Mahomes path. JA wins the SB, then signs 10yr extension at 40+ mill per year. 1 2
GunnerBill Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, eball said: No contract extension discussions will take place until after the 2020 season at the earliest, IMO. More importantly, I fully believe Josh is the type of player who will not insist upon a “highest paid” deal and will do what is necessary to allow the Bills to continue to keep a good team around him, similar to how Mahomes took less than he could have. We are so freaking lucky to have gotten the type of player and human being Josh is. Team first all the way. No extension discussions CAN take place until after the 2020 season. As for where Josh goes..... if he is playing at the level of the first two weeks he slots in right above Watson and behind Mahomes IMO. If he drops a bit off this pace but is still pretty darn good then right around the Watson number. It is going to get tied up with Lamar as well... who signs first and where in that range between Deshaun at Pat does that first chip fall. EDIT: In a strange way I wonder if Mahomes's deal is actually the one that finally slows the inflation on QB salaries. He is locked in for a long time.... and he is so obviously in a class pretty much of his own (he and Russ) that it makes it harder for the Allen, Jackson, Murray, Burrow type guys coming down the track to demand more than Patrick Mahomes. The % of cap spent on QBs has been rising (not as fast as some of the freak out reactions suggest, but moderately climbing) for the past decade. If the cap recovers from Covid and Mahomes's deal dampens the inflation a little bit then we might see that number gradually go the other way. Edited September 23, 2020 by GunnerBill 3
CLTbills Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, DCofNC said: In theory, This is the year to do it, before prices go up. That said, with Maholmes already signed, I don’t think it matters anymore, that’s the top of the market. I would wait until after the season and make a judgment. While I understand not jumping the gun, there's also a case to be made for this argument. It seems like waiting another year will just drive up the price. Thankfully, we have a freaking wizard for a GM.
fergie's ire Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 Don't know if they have the cap space to do it, but I agree that the trend seems to be to re-sign before the fourth year. The problem with after the fourth year is then they start smelling the free agent money...and even the franchise money for QBs and corners is so good, that they seem to be willing to hold out for huge money....a la Cousins and Prescott.
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