Gugny Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 This sucks on so many levels. RIP, RBG. 💔 3
White Linen Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 It's difficult imagining the surprise she must have felt last night as she met the actual judge. 2
BillsFan4 Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) How sad. What an amazing woman she was. baruch dayan haemet. May her memory be a blessing. Edited September 19, 2020 by BillsFan4 2
Simon Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 If you'd like to discuss the political implications of this, take it to PPP. It does not belong anywhere else. 3 3
ChevyVanMiller Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 Truly a ground-breaking woman who epitomized the very best attributes of mankind. RIP 1
NoSaint Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Simon said: If you'd like to discuss the political implications of this, take it to PPP. It does not belong anywhere else. Definitely coming at this one from a non-confrontational angle and genuinely curious (and not sure the right way to approach broaching the subject) it feels like the decision to let PPP be more or less unmoderated is possibly running its course as society evolves. We are at a crossroads where politics is interweaving more and more of our every day discussions and there are plenty of folks here i would love to discuss this topic with, but have no desire to go subject myself to PPP. i know the hands off policy was created quite some time back and curious about the prospect of its revisiting through the years. that we have a cornerstone major American news story that can’t be discussed on the any topic goes board that is moderated and civil because it’s political but the political board means you have to subject yourself to abuses is disappointing. 3 1
CowgirlsFan Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 RIP Condolences to her family and her friends. 1
DFT Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Definitely coming at this one from a non-confrontational angle and genuinely curious (and not sure the right way to approach broaching the subject) it feels like the decision to let PPP be more or less unmoderated is possibly running its course as society evolves. We are at a crossroads where politics is interweaving more and more of our every day discussions and there are plenty of folks here i would love to discuss this topic with, but have no desire to go subject myself to PPP. i know the hands off policy was created quite some time back and curious about the prospect of its revisiting through the years. that we have a cornerstone major American news story that can’t be discussed on the any topic goes board that is moderated and civil because it’s political but the political board means you have to subject yourself to abuses is disappointing. I was a pretty well respected member of the BBMB, because of my former affiliation with the organization and my identity being known personally by Chris, Billsmod and Robin (Wyo). I’ll attest that while ppp isn’t perfect, it is absolutely more civil than many other forums of similar nature. I think the most important aspect to remember is that while people are passionate, opposite viewpoints can be held without ugliness. Aside from a large group of trolls which comprise my ignore list, I’ve found that great conversations can and do transpire from all sides of the political forum. Again, it’s not perfect, but if you can summon the respect for those who aren’t looking for trouble (but have an opposing view), you’ll be fine. But if someone goes in... 1. assuming their viewpoint is paramount 2. Insulting others on the basis of their viewpoints 3. Entertaining trolls 4. Affirming that those opposed to your viewpoints are “evil” 5. Spamming 6. Professing a love for wings dipped in ranch (gross!!!). then yes. PPP isn’t for you. It’s like any Twitter comment section. You’re going to find ugly. Rise above it; don’t become it. And for the love of sweet children’s laughter, use your ignore feature!!!! 2 1 3
Simon Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Definitely coming at this one from a non-confrontational angle and genuinely curious (and not sure the right way to approach broaching the subject) it feels like the decision to let PPP be more or less unmoderated is possibly running its course as society evolves. We are at a crossroads where politics is interweaving more and more of our every day discussions and there are plenty of folks here i would love to discuss this topic with, but have no desire to go subject myself to PPP. i know the hands off policy was created quite some time back and curious about the prospect of its revisiting through the years. that we have a cornerstone major American news story that can’t be discussed on the any topic goes board that is moderated and civil because it’s political but the political board means you have to subject yourself to abuses is disappointing. It's definitely a subject that SDS and the mods have been poring over for some time in search of a solution. We clearly haven't found it yet, whether that's because we haven't struck upon it yet or whether no perfect solution exists is debatable in itself. From my perspective, this board remains civil precisely because it remains free of politics and I'd like to see that standard maintained. As for moderating PPP, the difficulty of finding a moderator who is both neutral and masochistic enough to take on that task is nigh impossible. I have no desire to subject myself to that abuse nor would I ask anybody else to do so at this point in our country's de-evolution. Our society has become so divided by our politicians, our media and our people that it may not be feasible to even have a political discussion that remains civil. If that's the case, then a civil PPP board is a pipe dream, moderated or not. We'll keep hashing it out among the mods in hopes that a reasonable solution presents itself. In the meantime, I would second the suggestion from DFT that the ignore feature is a very valuable tool if used wisely. Fwiw, that will be my only comment on the subject here as I have no desire to take a thread about such a well-respected woman off the rails. 1 4
DFT Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 Shame on me for also not stating the obvious... RIP Ruth. The only thing more tremendous than your loss is your legacy. 2
shoshin Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 She was a titan of a human and a model of dignity and decency. I loved reading about her close friendship with Scalia in a few Scalia bios. RE PPP, there’s a thread about its positive contributions to TBD over there.
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 20, 2020 Posted September 20, 2020 RIP RBG One of the last American heroes we’ll ever have IMO 1
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