vtnatefootball11 Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/09/18/nfl-kicking-coaches-50000-dollar-fix I did not take the article seriously at first but it actually makes a lot of sense, especially for the Bills with Bass being a rookie. Apparently, only 4-5 teams in the NFL have a designated kicking coach or consultant. The point of the article is that unlike any other position, if kickers/punters have a bad kick, there is no one on the staff that they can actually sit down with in game and intimately discuss mechanics/techniques, what may be off and help get their head right. Special teams coordinators typically don't have a kicking background. Could be helpful for the Bills. Thoughts? 3 1
bills8323 Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Certainly couldn’t hurt us. Anyone know the teams who have a consultant/their kicking success?
Seasons1992 Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) Redacted. Nevermind. Edited September 18, 2020 by Seasons1992
vtnatefootball11 Posted September 18, 2020 Author Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, bills8323 said: Certainly couldn’t hurt us. Anyone know the teams who have a consultant/their kicking success? The teams are mentioned in the article (BAL, NE, DEN a couple others I believe) but it appears the success stories are more anecdotal. It was apparently very helpful for Tucker of Baltimore and McManus of Denver. I know there are limits on the amount of coaches but why the Bills haven't already hired a specific consultant for Bass is beyond me. Like you said, how could it possibly hurt? We are talking a very small expenditure salary wise so money can't be the issue. 1
The BLUES Brothers Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 I believe you are going to be psychic. The Bills seem to have no issue with hiring coaches to get the most out of their players and could absolutely see this happening. Question is - could a player ever hire these guys on their own to get the most out of their position/career?
Fan in San Diego Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 I watched the first game against the Jets , there was a very strong blowing thru the stadium. Look at how much sideline peoples pants were blowing around. I'm sure this affected the kicking a great deal. On a non windy day I would be more concerned. 1
Rc2catch Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Do we know that there’s nobody on the coaching staff who actually has qualifications already on the kicking game? Or a coach Bass can go talk to? Surely some of these coaches have experience enough that you don’t necessarily have to have a dedicated coach just for one position
Saxum Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, The BLUES Brothers said: I believe you are going to be psychic. The Bills seem to have no issue with hiring coaches to get the most out of their players and could absolutely see this happening. Question is - could a player ever hire these guys on their own to get the most out of their position/career? There are lots of consultants out there. Of course every one who pays attention knows that Josh uses a QB consultant. There are linemen academies one of our previous offense linemen went to one. A number of WRs and DBs have gone to Don Beebe's House of Speed. Some players go back to their colleges to work with their college coaches during offseason. I think during season it is different because players do not have excess time and you need to make sure training meshes well with what coaches are teacher which is why a assistant coach, ideally a retired kicker would help. 1
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Why do we need to hire a kicking coach when the ref missed the call? 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Maybe an emotional support dog 2 1
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) I could see hiring Steve Christie to help him with his mechanics a little and give him a heads up on how the wind reacts in the stadium but that would be it. Edited September 19, 2020 by Call_Of_Ktulu 1
MJS Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 I assume he can go to the coordinator for coaching.
Comebackkid Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, vtnatefootball11 said: https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/09/18/nfl-kicking-coaches-50000-dollar-fix I did not take the article seriously at first but it actually makes a lot of sense, especially for the Bills with Bass being a rookie. Apparently, only 4-5 teams in the NFL have a designated kicking coach or consultant. The point of the article is that unlike any other position, if kickers/punters have a bad kick, there is no one on the staff that they can actually sit down with in game and intimately discuss mechanics/techniques, what may be off and help get their head right. Special teams coordinators typically don't have a kicking background. Could be helpful for the Bills. Thoughts? He just needs someone like Oliver to stand behind him while popping his knuckles and whispering words of encouragement and certain repercussions of missing in his ear. Game day Ed can just point and and smile.
aristocrat Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 i'm surprised more teams don't as the position is the second most important position besides qb. games are so tight that 3 points often decide the difference.
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, aristocrat said: i'm surprised more teams don't as the position is the second most important position besides qb. games are so tight that 3 points often decide the difference. Not sure its second most but agree a coach would be a good idea especially with a young kid
Bangarang Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 I’m actually surprised all teams don’t already employ one. You’d figure they would since kickers put up points and can decide the outcome of a game.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Comebackkid said: He just needs someone like Oliver to stand behind him while popping his knuckles and whispering words of encouragement and certain repercussions of missing in his ear. Game day Ed can just point and and smile. There certainly are multiple ways to accomplish the same thing! 1
Pokebball Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 My vote goes for Sister Jean from Loyola
Lurker Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Fan in San Diego said: I watched the first game against the Jets , there was a very strong blowing thru the stadium. Look at how much sideline peoples pants were blowing around. I'm sure this affected the kicking a great deal. On a non windy day I would be more concerned. It will ALWAYS be windy in Bills Stadium. And it will only get worse from here on out...
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