Edit: NFL removes Bass's kick from All-22 video

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Just now, Jauronimo said:

And Bass accounted for more than 10% of the missed kicks week 1.

Legendary Gostkowski had the other 90? 

[HOF Wingman]

I am sorry if this has been posted already because I didn’t read every page of this thread, but the first sentence of the last paragraph of the original

post that started this thread said “ imagine a Super Bowl decided by a kick”.
 

I don’t drink, but I might now.

Edited September 16, 2020 by HOF Wingman

[Doc Brown]

If they can put fricken laser beams on the top of sharks heads why can't they do it with goal posts?

[K-9]

19 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Pic or it didn’t happen   

 

 

seriously. w/o a picture of it over and inside the GP 

there is no refutable evidence.  
 

the eh hem ref was under the GP 

 

was he directly under, off to the right or left we won’t know.  
 

 

Off to the left or off to the right, if that ref was anywhere under the goalpost that meant he was literally buried below the turf and was in no position to see the play. Or anything else for that matter. Christ, I hope they got him out of there! 

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Off to the left or off to the right, if that ref was anywhere under the goalpost that meant he was literally buried below the turf and was in no position to see the play. Or anything else for that matter. Christ, I hope they got him out of there! 

For all intents and purposes, he was Jimmy Hoffa.

[clayboy54]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

you missed my last part. They have chipped the balls and player pads for 3 years now at least. 
 

my guess is they don’t see the effort for ball positioning as a priority because pursuing and perfecting the technology doesn’t generate any new revenue.  Plus reviews can add suspense around commercial breaks

 

 

 

 

Ah, I see that you're correct. I didn't know that.

 

I imagine that eventually they will use this more. However currently, the location accuracy of such chips is not small enough so as to detect a missed/made field goal by fractions of an inch. It also requires placement of a sensor at each measuring location. So, in last game's case, the tip of the upright would need to have a sensor mounted within it. Likewise, buried wires would need to be installed in the field to accurately measure boundaries and yard lines. This is what NASCAR did all around their tracks for this same purpose.

[Freddie's Dead]

19 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

If they can put a camera in an end zone pylon, they can put one on each upright.

 

Or frickin' laser beams.

 

I said this in the GDT.  Just mount a camera on each goal post pointing straight up.  10 ft from the top would be just about right.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

8 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:

Ah, I see that you're correct. I didn't know that.

 

I imagine that eventually they will use this more. However currently, the location accuracy of such chips is not small enough so as to detect a missed/made field goal by fractions of an inch. It also requires placement of a sensor at each measuring location. So, in last game's case, the tip of the upright would need to have a sensor mounted within it. Likewise, buried wires would need to be installed in the field to accurately measure boundaries and yard lines. This is what NASCAR did all around their tracks for this same purpose.

 

Yeah your probably right.  The $2 Chip was over simplistic but my thought is if there was a priority to solve it electronically, they could at least make significant progress. 
 

Even saw an idea somewhere, that superimposing an approximate halo around the ball for the replay observer may add more certainty to reviews.  
 

I just don’t think getting in right is a top priority, in fact controversial calls generate more buzz right? 

[Billy Claude]

It really doesn't seem that hard to do.   I assume nothing will happen until a call like this decides a Super Bowl or at least a Cowboys game.

[716er]

5 hours ago, Doc said:

 

There are only 2 cameras that might have captured it: the crossbar cam and the overhead "all-22" cam.  The NFL controls both and have no reason to release the footage in order to point out a mistake by one of their refs.

 

Even a screen grab of someone's TV at the point where it appears to go through would suffice at this point.

Edited September 16, 2020 by 716er

[Mr. WEO]

21 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

I said this in the GDT.  Just mount a camera on each goal post pointing straight up.  10 ft from the top would be just about right.

 

Well just extending the pole up 10 feet to hold a camera would suffice...

3 minutes ago, 716er said:

 

Even a screen grab of someone's TV at the point where it appears to go through would suffice at this point.

 

I know of only 2 posters who's TVs showed them that...

[The Frankish Reich]

20 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

If they can put a camera in an end zone pylon, they can put one on each upright.

 

Or frickin' laser beams.

I love this idea. And it would be cheap! Literally a laser pointer on each upright.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

The broadcast showing the one replay and saying the kick was good reminded me of this video:

 

 

 

When you only have one angle, it can appear be to good, without actually being good. 

 

That being said, the NFL could easily avoid any controversy on kicks (more camera angles, lasers, taller goalposts, etc)

[TigerJ]

21 hours ago, Doc said:

I asked in the other thread but the crossbar cam, if it was working, would tell a lot.

Yeah, any other camera angle is subject to question.

[zow2]

yep. they’ve put little cameras on the referees hats sometimes. They embed cameras on the end zone pylons.  We see cameras in the back of NHL hockey nets behind the goalies. 

Of Course they can put a little camera pointed upwards on each side of the crossbar.  I guess the league just chooses not to. stupid 

[BillsfanAZ]

I didnt read the whole thread so not sure if it has been mentioned but there should be some way to stabilize the goal posts in the wind if cameras or lasers are going to be used. If a kick is that close then a good wind gust could make a good kick bad and vice versa. 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

20 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

How bout sharks with frickin’ laser beams attached to their head instead? Or when refs get calls wrong we dump them into burning pits of hot liquid magma! bwahgahbwahaha

I was thinking more in the line of a electric shock that gets elevated the more calls that you miss. Like that machine on The Princess Bride.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

Carbon Fiber goal posts that are extended 20 ft higher. 

[Old Coot]

This has been a problem for decades. 

 

In 1965 the Colts lost a sudden death playoff for the Western Conference title as a result of a last minutes Packer FG that sailed higher than the uprights and was ruled good. Photos later showed that it was beyonf the upright.  The "FG that wasn't" tied the game at 10 @.  The game went into overtime & the Pack won 13-10.  The Pack went on to beat the Browns to claim the last NFL championship pre-Super Bowl.

 

As a result of the blown call the height of the uprights was extended from 10 feet to 20 feet.  In 1974 the height was again extended to 30 feet and to 35 feet in 2014 at the behest of the coach we love to hate, Bill Belichick.  Can 50 feet be far behind?

 

BTW the goalposts originally were right on the goal line providing an extra blocker on running plays but also an extra defender on pass plays.

[hemma]

Goal posts should move from sideline to sideline at 18 mph and also rotate.

 

17 1/2 points if you get one through

 

We have the technology.