SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Da webster guy said: Missin my point. He CANT know, he has no angle. To ask a ref to judge depth looking straight up? If the Ref is standing to the rear and just outside of the goalpost and looks up, then he can see if the ball was to the inside or not. take this scenario - IF the ball was not directly over the post - if it was not fully inside the GP it would have hit the post . Which way would it bounce? Left, Right or backwards. So we are back to His assumption. Don't get me wrong. I think it was a questionable call and would have loved to see it reviewed, but w/o a proper picture at that precise moment it is all up for conjecture 4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Aaaaaaaaaaand.. the kick is GOOD! where is the proof? see above
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 'Bass' first kick, the NFL needs to act.' * I'm hoping they attempt 'Macbeth'. More than likely, we'll get 'A Chorus Line'.
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: 'Bass' first kick, the NFL needs to act.' * I'm hoping they attempt 'Macbeth'. More than likely, we'll get 'A Chorus Line'. too early, Ridge. let me have my coffee first. 😂
716er Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 If it was obviously good there would be a pic floating around of the exact moment the ball goes "thru" the uprights. I haven't seen it yet.
IslandBillsFan Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 Maybe a fan has a clear video from watching the game from the stands. Oh wait........ 1 1
John Gianelli Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 13 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I know right?? $2 solution to a million dollar problem. And no more stupid goal line “did he get in??” reviews. This is actually a serious question. Where and how many microchips would you need in each ball? This would be a no-brainer solution if you're talking about a basketball or baseball, where one chip in the dead center of the ball would be all you'd need. But a football's shape could present a challenge. Even if you put a chip at both tips of the ball, what if the ball is being held sideways in such a way that the part near the laces crosses the plane, but neither tip does. You'd probably need a belt of microchips inside the ball to make that work. So maybe $200 per ball? It's just to say that even with the technology available, it might not be as easy as it sounds for football. Here's the fun part. You know the Patriots would install some kind of cloaking device in the ball their opponents were using to refute that it actually crossed the plane.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, John Gianelli said: This is actually a serious question. Where and how many microchips would you need in each ball? This would be a no-brainer solution if you're talking about a basketball or baseball, where one chip in the dead center of the ball would be all you'd need. But a football's shape could present a challenge. Even if you put a chip at both tips of the ball, what if the ball is being held sideways in such a way that the part near the laces crosses the plane, but neither tip does. You'd probably need a belt of microchips inside the ball to make that work. So maybe $200 per ball? It's just to say that even with the technology available, it might not be as easy as it sounds for football. Here's the fun part. You know the Patriots would install some kind of cloaking device in the ball their opponents were using to refute that it actually crossed the plane. High end positioning chips know orientation, elevation, etc. as a result, knowing the placement within the ball and some simple math, you’d always know ball location and orientation within some small margin. I mean maybe it’s an $8 chip but still. best part is in looking this up I learned they already put chips in player shoulder pads and the footballs for next gen stats.
Penfield45 Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 I swore it was good when i first watched it, and was surprised as hell refs say no good idk how you miss that 1
Doc Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, 716er said: If it was obviously good there would be a pic floating around of the exact moment the ball goes "thru" the uprights. I haven't seen it yet. There are only 2 cameras that might have captured it: the crossbar cam and the overhead "all-22" cam. The NFL controls both and have no reason to release the footage in order to point out a mistake by one of their refs. Edited September 16, 2020 by Doc
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, John Gianelli said: Here's the fun part. You know the Patriots would install some kind of cloaking device in the ball their opponents were using to refute that it actually crossed the plane. In light of your scurrilous accusation, the league has awarded a compensatory conditional draft pick to the New England Patriots. Now, let's see who's paying attention. 😁 *🛑🚓👮🏿 Not funny! 15 minutes ago, Doc said: There are only 2 cameras that would have captured it: the crossbar cam and the overhead "all-22" cam. The NFL controls both and have no reason to release the footage in order to point out a mistake by one of their refs. A conspiracy of silence speaks volumes.
Mr. K Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 Just got ahead and put a crossbar on top. Get it through the box and your points will be added to the total. 1
DCOrange Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 It seemed like it was above the upright to me, but at any rate, just based on the sheer physics of the kick, there's no way that it was wide right. The angle and speed that the ball was traveling in makes it impossible for the ball to have hit the net where it did without having been between the uprights.
BurpleBull Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 Bass needs to act on righting his kick so that the football travels through the center of the uprights.
Patrick Duffy Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) We may get to see a 45-50 plus yard att soon. I'm curious to see if he is a little better at the longer FGs. We know he has the leg. Edited September 16, 2020 by Patrick_Duffy
clayboy54 Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: High end positioning chips know orientation, elevation, etc. as a result, knowing the placement within the ball and some simple math, you’d always know ball location and orientation within some small margin. I mean maybe it’s an $8 chip but still. best part is in looking this up I learned they already put chips in player shoulder pads and the footballs for next gen stats. The issue is the power supply, not the chip. Plus, the balls would have to be charged up. I can see it now... "The game is delayed while we charge the footballs." And, rain and snow would affect the electronics causing false readings.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: The issue is the power supply, not the chip. Plus, the balls would have to be charged up. I can see it now... "The game is delayed while we charge the footballs." And, rain and snow would affect the electronics causing false readings. you missed my last part. They have chipped the balls and player pads for 3 years now at least. my guess is they don’t see the effort for ball positioning as a priority because pursuing and perfecting the technology doesn’t generate any new revenue. Plus reviews can add suspense around commercial breaks
Doc Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Bass needs to act on righting his kick so that the football travels through the center of the uprights. That would be ideal, yes.
Chandler#81 Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 For comparison, 19 NINETEEN Field Goals were missed on Opening weekend.😲 Cut the kid some slack. 2
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 16 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: A laser beam that blows up the football if it crosses its path. good entertainment I hate to ruin this but no more TD passes? 🙃 3 hours ago, Doc said: There are only 2 cameras that might have captured it: the crossbar cam and the overhead "all-22" cam. The NFL controls both and have no reason to release the footage in order to point out a mistake by one of their refs. Whatever you do, do not google ‘was bills kick wide right’ for videos....
Jauronimo Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: For comparison, 19 NINETEEN Field Goals were missed on Opening weekend.😲 Cut the kid some slack. And Bass accounted for more than 10% of the missed kicks week 1.
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