Chaos Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 In week 1, 91 % of the Bills offense ran through Josh Allen In comparison 84% ran through Lamar Jackson, 79% through Kyler Murray. Russell Wilson was 91.6% Allen Passing plus rushing = 369 Bills total = 404 369/404 = 91.3% Jackson 320/377 = 84.8% Murray 321/404 = 79.4% Wilson 351/383 = 91.6% 5 1
thebandit27 Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 This is how it has been since his rookie season. He’s not a big part of the offense; he is the offense. 15
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Since this tends to favor qbs who run a lot, it would be interesting if see a historical study of how qbs who have such a % age. I’m sure Cam, Vick, etc. were very high with this %. 1
Virgil Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Too bad he's trash. We need more out of a QB. If he doesn't throw for 400 yards and score 50 points this week, cut him 17 1 1
IgotBILLStopay Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) Any team with limited nonQB rushing will show that. Speaks to Bills’ rushing struggles with Singletary and Moss more than than anything else for example in MNF, Daniel Jones had more than 97% (301 / 308). Speaks more to Barkley’s rushing struggles than saying Jones is the offense Edited September 15, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay 1
Rochesterian Bills Fan Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Virgil said: Too bad he's trash. We need more out of a QB. If he doesn't throw for 400 yards and score 50 points this week, cut him They better throw him in on ton D too and play like the other Josh Allen
Billl Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Chaos said: In week 1, 91 % of the Bills offense ran through Josh Allen In comparison 84% ran through Lamar Jackson, 79% through Kyler Murray. Russell Wilson was 91.6% Allen Passing plus rushing = 369 Bills total = 404 369/404 = 91.3% Jackson 320/377 = 84.8% Murray 321/404 = 79.4% Wilson 351/383 = 91.6% Daniel Jones had 301 yards. The Giants had 291. He literally had 103.4% of their total offense. Edited September 15, 2020 by Billl 1 3 1
thebandit27 Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Billl said: Daniel Jones had 301 yards. The Giants had 291. He literally had 103.4% of their total offense. Unless you’re going to deduct the sack yards from his passing (which is what’s done with net total yards), you’re comparing apples to oranges. Jones had 301 of their 308 offensive yards. Not good for the G-MEN.
Brennan Huff Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Be careful. After my experience yesterday on here, there are certain people here who will take this as Allen bashing thread.
Chaos Posted September 15, 2020 Author Posted September 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Any team with limited nonQB rushing will show that. Speaks to Bills’ rushing struggles with Singletary and Moss more than than anything else for example in MNF, Daniel Jones had more than 97% (301 / 308). Speaks more to Barkley’s rushing struggles than saying Jones is the offense You may have identified the reason Allen had to carry the offense. Does not change the fact that he is carrying the offense.
Chaos Posted September 15, 2020 Author Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) This would be a better stat if yards after catch are removed. Maybe I will do that later. Edited September 15, 2020 by Chaos 1
SCBills Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 48 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Any team with limited nonQB rushing will show that. Speaks to Bills’ rushing struggles with Singletary and Moss more than than anything else for example in MNF, Daniel Jones had more than 97% (301 / 308). Speaks more to Barkley’s rushing struggles than saying Jones is the offense Will be interesting to see A) How we run the ball against the Dolphins, and B) how the 49ers run against the Jets. 49ers offensive strengths play right into the Jets defensive strength. If the Jets had any semblance of an offense, that would be somewhat of a sleeper game.
Billl Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Unless you’re going to deduct the sack yards from his passing (which is what’s done with net total yards), you’re comparing apples to oranges. Jones had 301 of their 308 offensive yards. Not good for the G-MEN. That’s not correct, nor is it the way OP calculated his stats. I’m using the exact same method he did.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Chaos said: In week 1, 91 % of the Bills offense ran through Josh Allen In comparison 84% ran through Lamar Jackson, 79% through Kyler Murray. Russell Wilson was 91.6% Allen Passing plus rushing = 369 Bills total = 404 369/404 = 91.3% Jackson 320/377 = 84.8% Murray 321/404 = 79.4% Wilson 351/383 = 91.6% The game sure has changed... this way of looking at it is a little disingenuous as it over credits the QB for WR RAC
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 People here wouldn't like the week 1 efficiency rating results, but a couple other interesting tidbits: Allen had 63 total attempts in week 1. That's 6 more than the next most (Matt Ryan) and 22 more than the median (41 for Russ Wilson and Dwayne Haskins). Allen was 4th overall for total yards gained by a QB behind Matt Ryan, Phil Rivers, and Aaron Rodgers. 2
thebandit27 Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, Billl said: That’s not correct, nor is it the way OP calculated his stats. I’m using the exact same method he did. Yes, it is correct. Total team yards are net yards. Otherwise the Giants would have to have had negative rushing yards aside from Jones; they didn’t.
Chaos Posted September 15, 2020 Author Posted September 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: The game sure has changed... this way of looking at it is a little disingenuous as it over credits the QB for WR RAC See my post from about 1 hour before yours. Not the original post.
starrymessenger Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) Some young QBs boom, most bust. Allen booms and busts all in the same game. If he doesn't fumble twice, hits an open Knox in the corner of the end zone and John Brown I'm pretty sure we 50 burger the Jets. That would be a truer reflection of the performance gap separating the two teams yesterday than the final score. Allen's physical ability is such that he can be a dominating presence. After Cashman went out yesterday he Jets lost the guy who was supposed to spy Allen. And of course running the ball Allen is a load. But I don't think he should be our #1 RB. If Daboll keeps running him like he did yesterday I fear it's only a matter of time before he gets injured. He runs with reckless abandon. If he goes down for any length of time the season is almost certainly over. As a player in development for playing the most demanding position maybe the Bills don't see him as yet ready to take full control and and make the best use of the talent that now surrounds him. IMO that needs to change as the season progresses if the Bills are to maximize their chances for success. Few of their opponents will be as pathetic as the Gase led Jets. Theirs is the 10th most difficult strength of schedule. On the other hand Cam is somehow still getting it done with his legs so who knows. Edited September 15, 2020 by starrymessenger 1
JerseyBills Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Loving 404 total yards on opening day! I said all summer, this is a top 10 offense and they sure showed that potential on Sunday.
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