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41 minutes ago, Dub said:

Bull, if I post a link with something from Rush how much creedance you gonna give it ?

None, because he lies. Slate may cover left of center positions, but are you saying their report lies?

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2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

None, because he lies. Slate may cover left of center positions, but are you saying their report lies?

What Im saying is there is too much opinion in what we consume and if you pass opinions off as news or facts you're doing yourself a disservice. My point with Rush is that its obviously his opinion. You're more than entitled to disagree with it. Which lies of his get you especially?

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4 minutes ago, Dub said:

What Im saying is there is too much opinion in what we consume and if you pass opinions off as news or facts you're doing yourself a disservice. My point with Rush is that its obviously his opinion. You're more than entitled to disagree with it. Which lies of his get you especially?

You can start here. I don't have the time.

If you want to question the data I've posted on its accuracy, please feel free to post alternative sources. I don't care at all about opinion pieces. I just read news for data.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=rush-limbaugh

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On 9/24/2020 at 4:23 PM, 3rdnlng said:

You can't go two posts without putting on full display your deep seated assmudgeonry. 

 

Per a witness the cops announced themselves and knocked before breaking down the door.

 

Breonna's new boyfriend shot at the cops before they shot back. He admitted to this.

 

Per the Grand Jury the cops had every right to shoot back in self defense. 

 

One cop was charged with basically reckless endangerment for being a bad shot, not hitting anything but inanimate objects. 

 

Some people claim that Breonna was intimately involved in her ex boyfriend's drug business, thus naturally putting her life in danger. She shares some of the blame for her own demise.

Even though I already proved your lie false, here it is in black and white.

Like I've been saying, the criminal network that supports and enables these terrorist cops goes all the way through the system.
 

"Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron said on Tuesday that he did not present any murder charges to the grand jury that was empaneled to hear the case of Breonna Taylor, the 26-year-old Black woman who was shot and killed by a trio of plainclothes Louisville police officers in her home back in March.

In a sit-down interview with local news station WDRB, Cameron said that his office found murder charges were “not appropriate.”


https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518951-ag-cameron-didnt-recommend-any-homicide-charges-to-breonna-taylor

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6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Even though I already proved your lie false, here it is in black and white.

Like I've been saying, the criminal network that supports and enables these terrorist cops goes all the way through the system.
 

"Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron said on Tuesday that he did not present any murder charges to the grand jury that was empaneled to hear the case of Breonna Taylor, the 26-year-old Black woman who was shot and killed by a trio of plainclothes Louisville police officers in her home back in March.

In a sit-down interview with local news station WDRB, Cameron said that his office found murder charges were “not appropriate.”


https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518951-ag-cameron-didnt-recommend-any-homicide-charges-to-breonna-taylor

Are you just trying to confirm my post? The prosecution didn't find any type of murder charges as appropriate and neither did the grand jury. The reckless endangerment charges were against the detective who fired into the apartment at random. 

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2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Are you just trying to confirm my post? The prosecution didn't find any type of murder charges as appropriate and neither did the grand jury. The reckless endangerment charges were against the detective who fired into the apartment at random. 

Apparently you need help reading. You lied: "Per the Grand Jury the cops had every right to shoot back in self defense. " This is explicitly false. The grand jury was not given the option to indict on murder charges, because the prosecutor, also a Republican, did not present it as an option.

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16 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Apparently you need help reading. You lied: "Per the Grand Jury the cops had every right to shoot back in self defense. " This is explicitly false. The grand jury was not given the option to indict on murder charges, because the prosecutor, also a Republican, did not present it as an option.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/23/kentucky-self-defense-laws-

 

The grand jury had the option of indicting the officers on any of four degrees of homicide — from reckless homicide to murder, and prominent athletes and celebrities across the country demanded the most serious charge.  

But the attorneys predicted that would never happen because in Kentucky, a murder conviction requires that a defendant act intentionally to cause a death. In other words, his conscious objective must be to kill someone. 

To prove the wanton endangerment charges against Hankison, which are each punishable by one to five years in prison, special prosecutors must show that under circumstances demonstrating extreme indifference to the value of human life, he wantonly engaged in conduct that created a substantial danger of death or serious physical injury to another person. 

Cameron said one of the apartments Hankison shot was occupied by a couple and a young child. 

 
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2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/23/kentucky-self-defense-laws-

 

The grand jury had the option of indicting the officers on any of four degrees of homicide — from reckless homicide to murder, and prominent athletes and celebrities across the country demanded the most serious charge.  

But the attorneys predicted that would never happen because in Kentucky, a murder conviction requires that a defendant act intentionally to cause a death. In other words, his conscious objective must be to kill someone. 

To prove the wanton endangerment charges against Hankison, which are each punishable by one to five years in prison, special prosecutors must show that under circumstances demonstrating extreme indifference to the value of human life, he wantonly engaged in conduct that created a substantial danger of death or serious physical injury to another person. 

Cameron said one of the apartments Hankison shot was occupied by a couple and a young child. 

 

Again, I mean it's like you don't even try to understand, or you just actively look for words to fit your agenda. This was a lazy coverup with a republican DA backing a police force that is overwhelmingly republican with 84% voting for trump compared to 46% of the general population.


"In Kentucky, like elsewhere, prosecutors have sole purview over what evidence and witnesses a grand jury hears"

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Cameron has said he presented grand jurors with a witness who supported officers' statements that they announced themselves. But Ben Crump, a lawyer for the Taylor family, and Steven Romines, Walker's lawyer, say there are 12 other neighbors who did not hear any announcement. "


"Grand jurors do have the opportunity to ask questions, and may decide not enough probable cause exists to return an indictment recommended by a prosecutor. But they typically wouldn't have knowledge of the law to the extent that they would question the indictment options a prosecutor presents and recommend more serious charges, Lollar said."


"Most grand jurors are not lawyers, they aren't experts with the legal process," Lollar said. "They're going to take a look at the evidence and the law presented to them and decide whether there's enough to charge based on what's presented to them."


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-case-grand-jury-transcripts-released-2020-10-02/
https://www.policemag.com/342098/the-2016-police-presidential-poll

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@BullBuchananHow many times are you going to repeat yourself?

 

From my original link:

 

Seven criminal defense experts with an average of 37 years of practice told The Louisville Courier Journal, part of the USA TODAY Network, earlier this summer that homicide charges against the other two officers were unlikely because they had a right to return fire once Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, fired one “warning shot” that police say struck Mattingly in the femoral artery, nearly killing him. 

 
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1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

@BullBuchananHow many times are you going to repeat yourself?

 

From my original link:

 

Seven criminal defense experts with an average of 37 years of practice told The Louisville Courier Journal, part of the USA TODAY Network, earlier this summer that homicide charges against the other two officers were unlikely because they had a right to return fire once Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, fired one “warning shot” that police say struck Mattingly in the femoral artery, nearly killing him. 

 

And that is irrelevant to the fact that the DA did not present them as options. The DA also withheld evidence that would have made it possible and ballistics reports do not support the claim that Walker shot police. Your agenda is showing.

The law abiding citizens had police break into their home in the middle of the night and murder one of them. I don't even have to imagine what your response would be if the shoe was on the other foot.

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Family finally wins subpeona for bodycam footage of Montgomery branch of organized terrorist police group murdering an innocent man by commanding their police dog to attack him. This type of barbarism should be punished to the full extent of the law. More friends of Sig & Jim, I'm sure. I wonder if these cops were "great guys" too.
 

“Despite Mr. Pettaway’s obvious and profuse bleeding and his apparently going into shock, no policeman examines or evaluates [Pettaway’s] wound and no policeman administers any of the most basic, essential, obvious and immediately required care to stem or reduce his bleeding,” the lawsuit documents say.

 

“F-ck yeah,” Barber replied when another officer asked if Pettaway “got a bite.”

Pettaway eventually was removed from the home by officers who laid him down on the pavement and waited for EMS to arrive.
 

The officers allegedly stood by joking and taking pictures of Pettaway as he bled out. There had been no indication that he was armed or attempting to flee.


https://atlantablackstar.com/2020/10/03/his-flesh-was-all-on-the-ground-family-of-innocent-black-man-mauled-to-death-by-police-dog-over-a-false-burglary-call-continues-fight-for-bodycam-footage/

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Wolfe City, texas branch of organized terrorist police force murder city employee in cold blood who was attempting the break up a fight.

Man killed in Wolfe City police shooting was 'pillar of the community,' witness says
 

Civil rights lawyer Lee Merritt also posted about Price's death. He said he had spoken to the man's family. 

"When police arrived, I’m told, he raised his hands and attempted to explain what was going on," Merritt wrote on Facebook. "Police fired tasers at him and when his body convulsed from the electrical current, they 'perceived a threat' and shot him to death." 

The Texas Rangers are investigating the shooting at the request of the city's police department. Officials with the Hunt County Sheriff's Office were also seen at the scene.
 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

@BullBuchanan

 

Please clarify something for me.  Do you consider all Law Enforcement as a terrorist organizations?  

I consider American police forces to be terrorist organizations - not the concept of law enforcement.

How many times do we have to do this?

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6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I consider American police forces to be terrorist organizations - not the concept of law enforcement.

How many times do we have to do this?

 

Just clarifying it before I ask you this question.  

 

So do you consider the financial services industry that has members fined millions and millions of dollars each year to be  White Collar Crime Organizations?  

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1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Just clarifying it before I ask you this question.  

 

So do you consider the financial services industry that has members fined millions and millions of dollars each year to be  White Collar Crime Organizations?  

Yes, though Banks more specifically.

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