BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Dragoon said: Ive met Grossman, Ive heard him lecture. I respect him, but his books are nonsense and historically just not sound. I agree his ideas are militaristic and not often suitable for police practices. That said I think we agree then that we need more funding for the police and you actually seem to not want to eliminate them. Many of your ideas are not practical and just silly. Also you want to add a lot of bureaucracy. That again is naive. A good solution is less bureaucracy and less red tape. I’m sure the things Mao thought would work well sounded really great when he put them in bullet points...in reality however, his inexperience led to the suffering and deaths of millions. Do you support teachers unions? How far are we to eliminate unions? As a conservative I’m loving your idea of killing unions. I'm staunchly pro-union. The police union, however, operates at the expense of the public good. There needs to be significant change there. which of my ideas are not practical and silly? I didn't invent them - I pulled them from existing models or practices. I'm not sure how much bureaucracy there needs to be here. You need a small rotating panel of 5-9 citizens who review the police department and they should have some powers to act on improprieties. Police already have body cams, make them mandatory and remote controlled. They already create recruiting materials, just make them not "Operation Baghdad" and we're good Police spending more time working a shovel and less time working a gun does two things. It makes the job less desirable for wanna-be GI Joes, and it increases the liklihood that police build a relationship with the people in their community. I don't have the feintest idea what any of this, or bullet points, has to do with Mao. Edited September 25, 2020 by BullBuchanan
3rdnlng Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: I'd love to play poker with you if those are your reads. As long as you had a ball gag in your mouth, anyway. I've noticed that you in no way have denied your citizenship or country of origin. My reads are pretty accurate and frankly you aren't smart enough to fool me. How can you deny this? https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16104/antifa-history
BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I've noticed that you in no way have denied your citizenship or country of origin. My reads are pretty accurate and frankly you aren't smart enough to fool me. How can you deny this? https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16104/antifa-history Clearly not - Born and raised in Buffalo. How can I deny an openly far-right think tank? Gee, let me count the ways.
Dragoon Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I'm staunchly pro-union. The police union, however, operates at the expense of the public good. There needs to be significant change there. which of my ideas are not practical and silly? I didn't invent them - I pulled them from existing models or practices. I'm not sure how much bureaucracy there needs to be here. You need a small rotating panel of 5-9 citizens who review the police department and they should have some powers to act on improprieties. Police already have body cams, make them mandatory and remote controlled. They already create recruiting materials, just make them not "Operation Baghdad" and we're good Police spending more time working a shovel and less time working a gun does two things. It makes the job less desirable for wanna-be GI Joes, and it increases the liklihood that police build a relationship with the people in their community. I don't have the feintest idea what any of this, or bullet points, has to do with Mao. Ya know what went wrong in the Breonna Taylor situation...piss poor training. You don’t cure that with shovel work. Ya cover that with lots of gun training. More trigger time. More training. More. More. More.
Chef Jim Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: So, police around the country did not kneel in solidarity with protestors for a bunch of cameras and then deployed chemical weapons and assault them moments later after the press left? Basketball Cop didn't assault a black teenager? I'm a cop BOO!!
BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Dragoon said: Ya know what went wrong in the Breonna Taylor situation...piss poor training. You don’t cure that with shovel work. Ya cover that with lots of gun training. More trigger time. More training. More. More. More. Shovel work wouldn't make Breonna Taylor be alive today, but it solves other systemic problems They shouldn't have even been there. The entirety of their case was hinged on a supposed package being picked up at that apartment. Given that they found no evidence of any kind in the apartment it stands that their entire prep for the case was dog****. If they had information that a package was supposedly picked up, they should have had information about who lived there. If they had information about who lived there they would have known her boyfriend was a legal gun owner. Why would you break into a legal gun owners house in the middle of the night with a mere suspicion that there could be drugs there? There could be drugs anywhere. There are drugs in millions and millions of people homes, but not in hers. That's not a reason to break into a home in the middle of the night. The only reason to do that is to look for the outcome the got. Given the manifesto of one of the officers who murdered her, I have no doubt about that. You think there might be a drug operation? How about you watch for a while? How about you go during the day? How about you wait for someone to come to door? How about you act like a goddamn human being instead of a wanna be GI Joe? 100% of the handling of the case was wrong from the intel, to the prep, the execution and the resolution. The worst part about it is that this miscarriage of justice happens all the time, as I've highlighted in this thread, and without significant change it's going to keep happening. Just now, Chef Jim said: I'm a cop BOO!! You seem to fit all the criteria.
3rdnlng Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Clearly not - Born and raised in Buffalo. How can I deny an openly far-right think tank? Gee, let me count the ways. I don't believe you for a moment.
Chef Jim Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, BullBuchanan said: You seem to fit all the criteria. What's that supposed to mean?
Dragoon Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Shovel work wouldn't make Breonna Taylor be alive today, but it solves other systemic problems They shouldn't have even been there. The entirety of their case was hinged on a supposed package being picked up at that apartment. Given that they found no evidence of any kind in the apartment it stands that their entire prep for the case was dog****. If they had information that a package was supposedly picked up, they should have had information about who lived there. If they had information about who lived there they would have known her boyfriend was a legal gun owner. Why would you break into a legal gun owners house in the middle of the night with a mere suspicion that there could be drugs there? There could be drugs anywhere. There are drugs in millions and millions of people homes, but not in hers. That's not a reason to break into a home in the middle of the night. The only reason to do that is to look for the outcome the got. Given the manifesto of one of the officers who murdered her, I have no doubt about that. You think there might be a drug operation? How about you watch for a while? How about you go during the day? How about you wait for someone to come to door? How about you act like a goddamn human being instead of a wanna be GI Joe? 100% of the handling of the case was wrong from the intel, to the prep, the execution and the resolution. The worst part about it is that this miscarriage of justice happens all the time, as I've highlighted in this thread, and without significant change it's going to keep happening. You seem to fit all the criteria. ...mid 20’s?
BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Dragoon said: ...mid 20’s? nope.
Dragoon Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 10 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: nope. Man, unless you’re a teenager that’s bad then. Being in your 20’s would explain so much....if that’s not it then....
BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Dragoon said: Man, unless you’re a teenager that’s bad then. Being in your 20’s would explain so much....if that’s not it then.... You never answered my question.
BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 10:24 AM, BullBuchanan said: Seattle branch of organized terrorist police force deliberately runs over an injured man's head with their bike. Seattle police terrorist who attacked unarmed and injured man by riding over his head with his bike to be investigated. I expect nothing to come from this given the systemic leniency of violence perpetuated by cops, but we'll see. "The accountability office has requested that an outside law enforcement agency conduct the criminal investigation, and the Seattle Police Department agreed. The King County Sheriff's Office will take over the case. SPD says the officer has been placed on administrative leave. " https://www.q13fox.com/news/seattle-officer-who-ran-over-mans-head-with-bicycle-facing-criminal-probe
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 22 hours ago, RochesterRob said: Bull crap, Bull. We did it through letting 3 generations of subversive college professors have at young impressionable minds. These same professors who saw capitalism as the root of all their problems in life and communism as the only solution. ...LMAO......they despise capitalism, embrace socialism and work for minimum wage......yup......and protected by tenure to boot......
SectionC3 Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 19 hours ago, Chef Jim said: What's that supposed to mean? He’s saying you’re a far-right whack job.
Chef Jim Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: He’s saying you’re a far-right whack job. Interesting. How would you define a far-right whack job? I'd interested in what box you've put me in.
3rdnlng Posted September 26, 2020 Posted September 26, 2020 10 hours ago, Hedge said: Jacob Blake, "Heels Up Harris's hero.
BillStime Posted September 26, 2020 Posted September 26, 2020 And crickets from the Law and Order cult White Supremacist Killed After Shooting California Deputy
Chef Jim Posted September 26, 2020 Posted September 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: And crickets from the Law and Order cult White Supremacist Killed After Shooting California Deputy Actually you have it backwards but that is par for your course.
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