I wonder if the opt-outs are having second thoughts

[eSJayDee]

There weren't that many that opted out (maybe 50?) & I think probably a fair %age the primary reason was NOT their Covid risk.  Some probably did it for a "business" decision (maybe Star?).  Admittedly, some of those might regret it if in fact the cap drops next year as much as some are estimating.  Didn't Gaines opt out due to "personal reasons".  Then you've got that Canadian MD who opted out for more altruistic reasons.  As for their exposure/risk, it might well be a team by team thing.  I think it's premature to regret a decision like that especially if 1/2 way through the season a couple of teams get hit where 25% of their roster gets infected.

[Nineforty]

why can't one be comfortable with the decision they made at the time they made the decision, and for the reasons they made it, at that given time?  

 

If I fold Q-J when A-K-2 is on the board, and a 10 comes on the river, I'm not mad that I folded. 

[947]

I'm curious if the opt-outs have even stayed in shape. Star could be taking a year-long vacation & be grossly overweight for all we know.

[Don Otreply]

Likely not at all, a year off, body heals up more than in the last several years, hit the workout regime three four days a week. What’s not to like?  Back next year, it’s all good. 

[LeGOATski]

7 minutes ago, Nineforty said:

why can't one be comfortable with the decision they made at the time they made the decision, and for the reasons they made it, at that given time?  

 

If I fold Q-J when A-K-2 is on the board, and a 10 comes on the river, I'm not mad that I folded. 

Because we're better/smarter/faster/stronger than them and therefore make the best decisions all the time in any scenario and therefore can criticize anything they do.

 

Welcome to the internet.

@Albany,n.y., I'm sure players opted out for different reasons, but some may legitimately not want to risk catching covid. 

 

You seem to be implying that because the NFL is doing a great job of monitoring it, then the players won't catch it or be affected...

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

From what I saw on the broadcast last night the NFL is doing a great job with testing & monitoring.  I'd like to know if some of the opt-outs are regretting their decision.  I can't imagine giving up 1 year of a short career and then realizing that their fears were not justified.  It's too late for them to change their minds, but should the NFL open up a window of opportunity for the opt-outs to return now that they can see how closely the teams are monitoring things?  

Earlier this year I had a commitment to work a month for the town I live in.  I was very concerned when it was decide that we would have meetings 2-3 times a week.  When I got to the 1st one I saw they had given us separate tables at least 6' apart in a big room.  My fears went away & I was able to fulfill my obligation.  If I had opted out & then heard how safe our meetings were, I would have regretted opting out.  I wonder how many NFL opt-outs would come back if given a second chance.  

 

Not knocking what the NFL is doing, but think I'd give more credit to the players for being smart and not putting themselves in places where they can easily become spreaders.  Think the setup of the NFL is easier as teams are home all week then travel to away games the day before and back home right afterwards.  Unlike baseball where you're on a 10 day road trip with nothing to do, so are bored and go somewhere like a casino for example.

 

The players are older  and more mature, many married with families, be willing to bet that regardless of what city/state the players are in, most are keeping their kids in remote learning rather than in person to again lessen chances of bringing home more than their homework.  Not going out at night to parties, etc.  whereas who knows what these 19 yo college kids will do as the season wheres on.  Saw a thing last night on the news some college kid tested positive, was in quarantine so had a big party with other positive kids and didn't think anything he did was bad.

[Seasons1992]

2 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said:

 

 

"The guy made a million dollars."

 

[TroutDog]

1 hour ago, Rc2catch said:

Really? The way I understand is results are not instant. Therefore you could have an infected player possibly infecting others during a practice which would obviously spread rampant. I’ll admit I honestly have not paid attention in a few weeks to what testing is being done etc etc but last time I looked despite testing players daily they’re not getting instant results. So if you have no fever or symptoms you’re let in even though you may have it and potentially spread it. 

Beane, in an interview, said results are back very quickly. I would expect this to be the same with all teams. 
 

As far as players second guessing themselves, why would they? They were/are aware of the dangers of Covid and didn’t want to catch it themselves or give it to their families. I completely get it and would have done the same if I was in their shoes. For most, the money will be there next season. 

[Mickey]

Not knowing a given players personal situation, I think it is more than a bit presumptuous to conclude that their fears are not justified based on watching a single game on TV.  

[thenorthremembers]

What I got from lasts night game:

 

Can't Get Covid:

Hugging opposing player's prior to cointoss

If you're a player on the slideline

During a moment of unity

While playing

Drinking beer or eating in the stands

 

Can Get Covid:

During the cointoss

If you're a coach on the sidelines

Cheering for your team in the stands

 

 

 

[machine gun kelly]

It’s a wait and see thing, but 64,000 tests in and only 5 positive cases is not bad in 2208 players (53+16x32).  I don’t think anyone with a medical risk like Star, or a person who has a wife having a baby, or a mom ill doesn’t regret it at all.  Those who had no issues like this and just decided to sit out, I’m betting in a month if it stays as good as it is now will regret it.

 

Their careers are short lived and many haven’t figured out a post football career.  Even if they did, they know they’ll never make what they can make now.  Even the average players.

[Buddo]

I doubt there are many regrets yet. It's been one game. After 3 weeks and full slates of games, with no cases cropping up, then maybe there will be 'some' regret.

 

I doubt any decision was made in a vacuum, and there will be many variables to do with personal circumstances, that will be in play, many of which won't alter just because games are being played safely.

[FieldGeneral]

We'll see in a month or two when the bubble the NFL thinks it has starts going to different cities every week or accepts teams from other cities. All it takes is one outbreak on one team and this season is pretty much done. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

This entire thread is full of totally opposite opinions but most posters are so confident and definitive that they have the correct opinion.  In other words, totally worthless.

[Adam]

3 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

Really? The way I understand is results are not instant. Therefore you could have an infected player possibly infecting others during a practice which would obviously spread rampant. I’ll admit I honestly have not paid attention in a few weeks to what testing is being done etc etc but last time I looked despite testing players daily they’re not getting instant results. So if you have no fever or symptoms you’re let in even though you may have it and potentially spread it. 

Not to mention all of the people coming into contact during travel, stops for food, lodging and interviewing. There are many parts to this and it will be difficult to predict how bad outbreaks will be

[Dablitzkrieg]

I would imagine most are.  If they are passionate about it, they most likely have the itch the play.  I know I would

[PromoTheRobot]

I thought the OP was referring to season ticket holders.

[mannc]

4 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

From what I saw on the broadcast last night the NFL is doing a great job with testing & monitoring.  I'd like to know if some of the opt-outs are regretting their decision.  I can't imagine giving up 1 year of a short career and then realizing that their fears were not justified.  It's too late for them to change their minds, but should the NFL open up a window of opportunity for the opt-outs to return now that they can see how closely the teams are monitoring things?  

Earlier this year I had a commitment to work a month for the town I live in.  I was very concerned when it was decide that we would have meetings 2-3 times a week.  When I got to the 1st one I saw they had given us separate tables at least 6' apart in a big room.  My fears went away & I was able to fulfill my obligation.  If I had opted out & then heard how safe our meetings were, I would have regretted opting out.  I wonder how many NFL opt-outs would come back if given a second chance.  

Nah, none of them actually wanted to play football.  

[BullBuchanan]

2 hours ago, Nineforty said:

why can't one be comfortable with the decision they made at the time they made the decision, and for the reasons they made it, at that given time?  

 

If I fold Q-J when A-K-2 is on the board, and a 10 comes on the river, I'm not mad that I folded. 

A lot of people can't see that. They judge results that were completely outside of a person's control, rather than the judgment that put them in the right position.

Edited September 11, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[Augie]

3 hours ago, 947 said:

I'm curious if the opt-outs have even stayed in shape. Star could be taking a year-long vacation & be grossly overweight for all we know.

 

Not everyone is a Karlos Williams.  

 

But seriously, most of the guys who are pros and behave like pros.....will still be pros next year. Some may indeed blow it. Making the roster is a test every year. Nothing is given to them, they need to earn it. 

 

I’m very curious about all the Patriot* opt outs. Is this part of the big “conspiracy plan” for the next draft? (Seriously doubt that, but keep hearing it.) Is it pure coincidence, or do guys (like Gronk and maybe to some degree Brady) just not want to put up with a stiff Belichick regime with little chance of winning a ring or anything else. I suspect the last option carried some weight. 

 

 

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Edited September 11, 2020 by Augie