StHustle Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 According to BR, the Bills are in the top 5 of most talent lost when getting down to 53.... https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2907823-nfl-teams-who-lost-the-most-talent-on-cut-day Obviously the WR group sticks out most with former and current pro bowler Andre Roberts getting axed as well as future HOF Duke Williams... They also list the Raiders, Jets, Eagles and Football Team. Not the greatest list to be associated with but in theory being forced to cut talented players is a great sign. On a more serious note, I hope Duke gets scooped up on the practice squad. He has earned a shot at further development...
Chandler#81 Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 I stopped at “According to BR”. 🤦♂️ 4 2
Mister Defense Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 Well, that seems likely--but that seems like a good sign, as it indicates how much talent and depth, overall, the Bills have. We all knew that good players would now needed to be cut. But, it seems many of those players will now be signed today, Sunday, anyway.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 # of the 4 listed for the Bills hardly played last year and the 4th was a kick returner only. Hard to believe that level of talent makes the top 5, but maybe??
apuszczalowski Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, StHustle said: According to BR, the Bills are in the top 5 of most talent lost when getting down to 53.... https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2907823-nfl-teams-who-lost-the-most-talent-on-cut-day Obviously the WR group sticks out most with former and current pro bowler Andre Roberts getting axed as well as future HOF Duke Williams... They also list the Raiders, Jets, Eagles and Football Team. Not the greatest list to be associated with but in theory being forced to cut talented players is a great sign. On a more serious note, I hope Duke gets scooped up on the practice squad. He has earned a shot at further development... Looking at the other 4 teams on that list makes me think this isn't very impressive or noteworthy. its not like those teams are juggernauts.... 1
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, StHustle said: On a more serious note, I hope Duke gets scooped up on the practice squad. He has earned a shot at further development... I think Duke dropped his shot. They wanted a big catch radius WR who could make contested catches. McD stated his #1 priority was finding WR's who can catch. Seems Davis and Hodgins are those guys and proved in camp that they could do what Duke could do but younger, better, and cheaper. If Duke sticks on the PS, it is merely a covid/injury stash. The future is Diggs/Brown/Beasley/Davis/Hodgins. McKittrick will stick around as a gadget for now and get his jet sweeps but by next year they may look to upgrade. Roberts or another ST player may land on the roster, but my guess is they find a return man from the DB or RB side not the WR side. Edited September 6, 2020 by BillsRdue 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 52 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I stopped at “According to BR”. 🤦♂️ At least it's not PFF. 1
ChicagoRic Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 I do think Duke Williams will still end up on the PS. Had a good camp, knows the system, etc. That being said, the only time I would want to see him is if another WR is injured long term. Loving the mix of proven (Diggs, Brown, Beasley), gimmick (McKenzie), and potential (Davis, Hodgkins) that is currently in place. On paper, our WR corps has not been this good since Eric Moulds/Peerless Price/Josh Reed back in 2002.
StHustle Posted September 6, 2020 Author Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsRdue said: I think Duke dropped his shot. They wanted a big catch radius WR who could make contested catches. McD stated his #1 priority was finding WR's who can catch. Seems Davis and Hodgins are those guys and proved in camp that they could do what Duke could do but younger, better, and cheaper. If Duke sticks on the PS, it is merely a covid/injury stash. The future is Diggs/Brown/Beasley/Davis/Hodgins. McKittrick will stick around as a gadget for now and get his jet sweeps but by next year they may look to upgrade. Roberts or another ST player may land on the roster, but my guess is they find a return man from the DB or RB side not the WR side. 1 hour ago, ChicagoRic said: I do think Duke Williams will still end up on the PS. Had a good camp, knows the system, etc. That being said, the only time I would want to see him is if another WR is injured long term. Loving the mix of proven (Diggs, Brown, Beasley), gimmick (McKenzie), and potential (Davis, Hodgkins) that is currently in place. On paper, our WR corps has not been this good since Eric Moulds/Peerless Price/Josh Reed back in 2002. 2
JohnNord Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsRdue said: I think Duke dropped his shot. They wanted a big catch radius WR who could make contested catches. McD stated his #1 priority was finding WR's who can catch. Seems Davis and Hodgins are those guys and proved in camp that they could do what Duke could do but younger, better, and cheaper. If Duke sticks on the PS, it is merely a covid/injury stash. The future is Diggs/Brown/Beasley/Davis/Hodgins. McKittrick will stick around as a gadget for now and get his jet sweeps but by next year they may look to upgrade. Roberts or another ST player may land on the roster, but my guess is they find a return man from the DB or RB side not the WR side. What did Duke in was the playoff loss in Houston. He had a tremendous opportunity coming off a good games versus NYJ. In big moments Duke came up empty including failing to make contested catches twice (1 in the endzone at the end of the half) and dropping another pass toward the end of the game. His calling card was that if he could get his hands on the ball, he could make the catch. His play dictated the opposite. If Duke makes one of those catches, you can easily argue it would be a different game. From that moment on, I think it eliminated any thought that he could be a contributor at WR and the team knew they needed a significant upgrade at WR. I like Duke and hope he catches on with another team as well. I think he has pretty good talent and could contribute on ST’s. I don’t think he’s a starter but can him helping in 4 wide or different passing packages
Paup 1995MVP Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, JohnNord said: What did Duke in was the playoff loss in Houston. He had a tremendous opportunity coming off a good games versus NYJ. In big moments Duke came up empty including failing to make contested catches twice (1 in the endzone at the end of the half) and dropping another pass toward the end of the game. His calling card was that if he could get his hands on the ball, he could make the catch. His play dictated the opposite. If Duke makes one of those catches, you can easily argue it would be a different game. From that moment on, I think it eliminated any thought that he could be a contributor at WR and the team knew they needed a significant upgrade at WR. I like Duke and hope he catches on with another team as well. I think he has pretty good talent and could contribute on ST’s. I don’t think he’s a starter but can him helping in 4 wide or different passing packages Duke Williams is OK. He has good size and plays hard. But he is not overly fast athletic or sudden in his movements. And his hands are mediocre. He is a guy that is on the fringe of most NFL rosters. He can make some plays some weeks. But not consistently every week as shown by his games against the Jets in week 17 and in the playoff game against the Texans. I think its telling that he cleared waivers and is back on our practice squad instead of getting picked up by another team. If he can take his game up a couple of levels, he could probably contribute on a weekly basis. Just not sure he has that kind of athletic ability in him.
JMF2006 Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 Well if they are that good then the guys who made roster are even better. It would be nice if lower talent teams were dumpster diving the Bills cuts because it wasn't too long ago the Bills were doing it themselves. 1
StHustle Posted September 6, 2020 Author Posted September 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, JohnNord said: What did Duke in was the playoff loss in Houston. He had a tremendous opportunity coming off a good games versus NYJ. In big moments Duke came up empty including failing to make contested catches twice (1 in the endzone at the end of the half) and dropping another pass toward the end of the game. His calling card was that if he could get his hands on the ball, he could make the catch. His play dictated the opposite. If Duke makes one of those catches, you can easily argue it would be a different game. From that moment on, I think it eliminated any thought that he could be a contributor at WR and the team knew they needed a significant upgrade at WR. I like Duke and hope he catches on with another team as well. I think he has pretty good talent and could contribute on ST’s. I don’t think he’s a starter but can him helping in 4 wide or different passing packages He was a rookie in his first ever playoff game. He spent most the season not even practicing with the first team then had to learn how to catch a JA ball later. Did that and put up a 100 yard game in one of his first few starts of his career. Cant judge a guy with half a season under his belt for a few dropped passes in his first ever playoff game. As I stated, how he performed earned him a shot at further development opportunities.
MJS Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, StHustle said: And what do you know? Duke cleared waivers just fine. Shocker. /s
Artem Lipatov Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) what a new feeling for Buffalo fans! When you don't hope to find startes for your roster's holes in smb's cuts. And you cut strong players whch could be starters in Buffalo in recent bad years. Edited September 6, 2020 by Artem Lipatov 1
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 Assuming they bring back Roberts they didn't cut anyone of value.
John from Riverside Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 You know your team is doing well when you even have to have this discussion
klos63 Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 Since we signed many of our cuts to the practice squad, what did we really lose?
Brennan Huff Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 4 hours ago, JohnNord said: What did Duke in was the playoff loss in Houston. He had a tremendous opportunity coming off a good games versus NYJ. In big moments Duke came up empty including failing to make contested catches twice (1 in the endzone at the end of the half) and dropping another pass toward the end of the game. His calling card was that if he could get his hands on the ball, he could make the catch. His play dictated the opposite. If Duke makes one of those catches, you can easily argue it would be a different game. From that moment on, I think it eliminated any thought that he could be a contributor at WR and the team knew they needed a significant upgrade at WR. I like Duke and hope he catches on with another team as well. I think he has pretty good talent and could contribute on ST’s. I don’t think he’s a starter but can him helping in 4 wide or different passing packages The Berzerker was a very underrated gimmick in a time of god awful gimmicks
JohnNord Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: The Berzerker was a very underrated gimmick in a time of god awful gimmicks Agreed... very unique
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