Numark3 Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, RochesterRob said: The effort is too intense by trolls here for ignore to work very long. If this is like most boards there is no limit to the number of sock accounts one person can have and this is what trolls will resort to. Pretty soon people that count on ignore will become frustrated when a new personality penetrates their shields every hour. Getting rid of the socks so a person has to stand on one account will automatically make them post better content if they wish to be read. they may eventually get bored if they go that route. But it might be worth a try
3rdnlng Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: I know so little about both of those games I don’t get it lol Golf is a game in which the player regulates himself and it is required of him to report any violations of the rules by himself or others. Roller Derby is like "professional" wrestling and allows for such genteel actions as eye gouging and ear biting. 1
meazza Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I mean, we saw the mods randomly wander down here a while ago and cause some havoc on stuff that was seemingly par the course for this arena so I’m not entirely sure I have confidence in the current stable of mods to be able to strike a balance of patrolling these waters without shutting down the docks. Exactly. 1
Numark3 Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Golf is a game in which the player regulates himself and it is required of him to report any violations of the rules by himself or others. Roller Derby is like "professional" wrestling and allows for such genteel actions as eye gouging and ear biting. heh. Well if high volume posters like you, dr, Buffalo gal, b-men, and yes, even Tibs, would follow an agreed-upon list, then I’d be down and I think it is the best realistic option
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I mean, we saw the mods randomly wander down here a while ago and cause some havoc on stuff that was seemingly par the course for this arena so I’m not entirely sure I have confidence in the current stable of mods to be able to strike a balance of patrolling these waters without shutting down the docks. IMO it would be difficult. The regulars here know who is a troll or a troublemaker. If you are not reading or participating in PPP fairly regularly, it is difficult to know the players. What happens is like in football, it is not the instigator that gets caught, it is the one responding to the instigator. FWIW, I have read a lot of people lumped in with the likes of Gary. I realize all ignore lists are personal, and it could be due to a terrible exchange with someone, but while I have a large ignore list (IMO) someone like Alf is not on it. I may disagree with him politically, but he is not a troll, troublemaker, or mean. 1 1
shoshin Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: The effort is too intense by trolls here for ignore to work very long. If this is like most boards there is no limit to the number of sock accounts one person can have and this is what trolls will resort to. Pretty soon people that count on ignore will become frustrated when a new personality penetrates their shields every hour. Getting rid of the socks so a person has to stand on one account will automatically make them post better content if they wish to be read. Guess I'm not leaving this thread so soon after all! I'd say let's all post under our real names. That would change the entire tone online generally.
meazza Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 Can we just all be ***** adults and ignore the trolls? Do we really all need to agree? Do any of you start talking to the random nut in the subway or do you just stare down at your phone and wait for it to go away ? 1 minute ago, shoshin said: Guess I'm not leaving this thread so soon after all! I'd say let's all post under our real names. That would change the entire tone online generally. This isn’t Facebook. 3 1
Numark3 Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, meazza said: Can we just all be ***** adults and ignore the trolls? Do we really all need to agree? Do any of you start talking to the random nut in the subway or do you just stare down at your phone and wait for it to go away ? lol this is also fair. I have never ignored anyone but I guess I’ll start with a few 1
whatdrought Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, meazza said: Can we just all be ***** adults and ignore the trolls? Do we really all need to agree? Do any of you start talking to the random nut in the subway or do you just stare down at your phone and wait for it to go away ? This isn’t Facebook. Kind of my take on it. If personal discernment isn’t capable of cutting out the trash, you probably aren’t going to add much to this board to begin with. If newbies need a list to figure out where the asylum escapees are, they might be one themselves. I think there’s a difference between a helpful “hey, I see you’re new and trying to debate drool face over there- just so you know, he doesn’t have a history of honest intellectual debate and most around here ignore his schtick, choose for yourself.” And “here’s a list of those who you should ignore according to the cognoscenti.” I’ve been here a couple years and wouldn’t feel comfortable telling newbies who should and shouldn’t be on their ignore list, but I’m fine mentioning that certain posters have questionable track records. 2
Rob's House Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: I guess I've graduated to placement on the Global Ignore List. That's fine with me. In my defense: I don't post annoying insults. And I find those annoying insult posters tedious. We get it. It's not that amusing. I generally try to engage with arguments on the merits. If this thread is about "Don't mess with my echo chamber," perhaps folks need to ask themselves why they take comfort by being in an echo chamber. It's not about political affiliation, it's about bad faith engagement. We have a handful of posters who pollute the board with mindless spam that isn't intended to advance or explain a point of view, but simply to obstruct, annoy, or inflame. Left leaning posters are generally treated with the same level of respect they show the board. There are a couple righties here that are quick to pounce, but for the most part if you come looking for a good faith debate you're going to find it. If you're looking to post baseless variations of "orange man bad" and "you're a racist" you'll likely be treated accordingly. I can't think of one legitimate poster who's ever received the Tibs treatment on account of having liberal views. 2
New Improved DC Tom Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Rob's House said: I can't think of one legitimate poster who's ever received the Tibs treatment on account of having liberal views. While several right-leaning ones have. Anyone remember Rich in Ohio? No? Exactly. I'll say it again: the board's not anti-liberal. It's anti-schmuck. Stop being one. 2 1
Rob's House Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, shoshin said: Guess I'm not leaving this thread so soon after all! I'd say let's all post under our real names. That would change the entire tone online generally. The sad truth of this statement is that cancel culture has effectively suppressed free speech to the point that people are afraid to speak their minds for fear of retribution. 3
Tiberius Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, New Improved DC Tom said: While several right-leaning ones have. Anyone remember Rich in Ohio? No? Exactly. I'll say it again: the board's not anti-liberal. It's anti-schmuck. Stop being one. Hi Tom
Deranged Rhino Posted September 8, 2020 Author Posted September 8, 2020 3 hours ago, shoshin said: I already pasted 20 pages of your agenda... Then you should be able to define and describe that agenda if you posted it, so far you have done nothing but say "agenda" and then bungle its definition. It's funny because in both links you quoted the purpose oh those posts are stated clearly and up front... you can do it. Show your work. You say I'm pushing an agenda but have yet to say what that agenda is... 3 hours ago, shoshin said: I’ll pass. Funny when liars get shown to be liars, then are asked to back up their words, they all give the same weak ass response... 1
RochesterRob Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, shoshin said: Guess I'm not leaving this thread so soon after all! I'd say let's all post under our real names. That would change the entire tone online generally. The trouble is that there are nuts of all stripes out there that would attempt to disrupt a real person's life. Politics is a very sensitive subject for many people. While we would hope that everyone would be mature who posts here that simply will not happen. Having one account/personalilty here would provide reinforcement in terms of using privileges wisely. No different than raising a kid to realize that there are consequences to bad choices/actions. 1
Taro T Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, shoshin said: Guess I'm not leaving this thread so soon after all! I'd say let's all post under our real names. That would change the entire tone online generally. Posting under ones real name with the current cancel culture craze would be problematic at best. Just ignore the posters that bring absolutely nothing to this board (there's a bunch on the left & a couple on the right and at least 1 of them from the right is nearly the worst offender of all). As for those like Section 8 that can bring legitimate discussion but tries hard to get under people's skin & pretty sure is one of the worst run to the mods offenders when somebody does react, probably best to ignore them as well. Eventually they'll leave or stop doing the things that cause themselves to come across as putzes. Either way, that's a win. Don't agree with those saying posters like you, Alf, or Frankish Reich should be on ignore. If you're trying to have a legit discussion, that should be encouraged; and you and they (and 1 or 2 others on the recommended ignore lists as well) do come across as wanting to legitimately discuss current events. But really strongly disagree with your take that getting rid of PPP would make this site better. And, if you feel that strongly about how toxic this forum is, you probably would be best advised to not come down here into the dungeon. Life is too short to intentionally annoy yourself. Edited September 8, 2020 by Taro T Friggin' autocorrect 2 1
Deranged Rhino Posted September 8, 2020 Author Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, meazza said: Biden won’t win so you’re done for good ? And no one will miss him, or even remember he was ever here. What a legacy. 1
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SectionC3 Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Taro T said: Posting under ones real name with the current cancel culture craze would be problematic at best. Just ignore the posters that bring absolutely nothing to this board (there's a bunch on the left & a couple on the right and at least 1 of them from the right is nearly the worst offender of all). As for those like Section 8 that can bring legitimate discussion but tries hard to get under people's skin & pretty sure is one of the worst run to the mods offenders when somebody does react, probably best to ignore them as well. Eventually they'll leave or stop doing the things that cause themselves to come across as putzes. Either way, that's a win. Don't agree with those saying posters like you, Alf, or Frankish Reich should be on ignore. If you're trying to have a legit discussion, that should be encouraged; and you and they (and 1 or 2 others on the recommended ignore lists as well) do come across as wanting to legitimately discuss current events. But really strongly disagree with your take that getting rid of PPP would make this site better. And, if you feel that strongly about how toxic this forum is, you probably would be best advised to not come down here into the dungeon. Life is too short to intentionally annoy yourself. It’s interesting how some describe the place as a “dungeon” or a “hell hole” and also get annoyed when somebody posts something with a viewpoint different from their own. Cancel culture, anyone?
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