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  On 9/7/2020 at 1:08 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...what a crock....a few bad apples make PPP in its ENTIRETY a dark and seedy place?...you know damn well those few bad apples love their role of showing up ONLY to goad, incite and foment PERIOD.....constructive dialogue?...don't hold your breath ......

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I feel like we here at PPP are Arizona and certain posters like Shoshin have moved here from California to get away from that state, while at the same time advocating to run things here like they do in California. They used to call those people "carpetbaggers". 

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  On 9/7/2020 at 1:08 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...what a crock....a few bad apples make PPP in its ENTIRETY a dark and seedy place?...you know damn well those few bad apples love their role of showing up ONLY to goad, incite and foment PERIOD.....constructive dialogue?...don't hold your breath ......

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The troll and conspiracy posters are a visible symptom. PPP has bred far worse than that. 

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  On 9/7/2020 at 1:08 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...what a crock....a few bad apples make PPP in its ENTIRETY a dark and seedy place?...you know damn well those few bad apples love their role of showing up ONLY to goad, incite and foment PERIOD.....constructive dialogue?...don't hold your breath ......

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That doesn’t mean you guys should be banned. 

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I actually enjoy the idiots and find them entertaining. It  does not take long to figure out people like billstime and kemp will post anything to get a reaction. Accuracy and truth mean nothing to them but letting them and a few others rant is the cost of having a free open discussion. 

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  On 9/7/2020 at 2:21 PM, 3rdnlng said:

I feel like we here at PPP are Arizona and certain posters like Shoshin have moved here from California to get away from that state, while at the same time advocating to run things here like they do in California. They used to call those people "carpetbaggers". 

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You can have a PPP all over the internets. Go to Twitter. Create your own basement where you can mock all the TBD posters and engage in any behavior you want. I’m sure SDS would even allow you to link to it here. 
 

Rhino started a dialog about PPP’s great community building merits and I chimed in dubious about it and amused that he would “accept if nominated” as moderator here, given his behavior as lead name caller and agenda pusher. 

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  On 9/7/2020 at 2:27 PM, Buffalo Timmy said:

I actually enjoy the idiots and find them entertaining. It  does not take long to figure out people like billstime and kemp will post anything to get a reaction. Accuracy and truth mean nothing to them but letting them and a few others rant is the cost of having a free open discussion. 

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Those are two good posters, the right wing poster that just scream, rant and insult constantly are the ones that make the place toxic for decent conversation 

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  On 9/6/2020 at 11:19 PM, BullBuchanan said:

He's not what I would consider wealthy. If a 35 year old had $50,000 in a 401k and never contributed another cent, they would likely exceed Bernie's net worth by the time they reached his age. 

Given how frequently Sanders has hammered Putin, I don't really see him being a Russian ally.

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If you honeymooned in Moscow in 1988..... you might be a commie!

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  On 9/7/2020 at 2:39 PM, Tiberius said:

Those are two good posters, the right wing poster that just scream, rant and insult constantly are the ones that make the place toxic for decent conversation 

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Tibs last week you told me FU and the last time I pointed out a lie from BT he lied about me and also called me a racist, but remind me why you guys are the decent ones?

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  On 9/7/2020 at 2:28 PM, shoshin said:


You can have a PPP all over the internets. Go to Twitter. Create your own basement where you can mock all the TBD posters and engage in any behavior you want. I’m sure SDS would even allow you to link to it here. 
 

Rhino started a dialog about PPP’s great community building merits and I chimed in dubious about it and amused that he would “accept if nominated” as moderator here. 

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My guess is that DR really has no desire to be a moderator thus needing to temper what he has to post. As a relative newbie here at PPP what difference does it make to you if this place exists? I don't mock TBD posters other than PPP posters who post lies or really stupid stuff. It seems to me that you don't think you're prepared to discuss PPP things here so you'd just as soon have it disbanded. Cancel Culture hits close to home.

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  On 9/7/2020 at 2:48 PM, 3rdnlng said:

My guess is that DR really has no desire to be a moderator thus needing to temper what he has to post. As a relative newbie here at PPP what difference does it make to you if this place exists? I don't mock TBD posters other than PPP posters who post lies or really stupid stuff. It seems to me that you don't think you're prepared to discuss PPP things here so you'd just as soon have it disbanded. Cancel Culture hits close to home.

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Other than being a good feeder, politics is somewhat antithetical to football. TBD will survive just fine without PPP. If the management of PPP is a problem, then yes, close it and invade some other forum, destroy it and move on to another. 

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  On 9/7/2020 at 3:06 PM, Niagara said:

Other than being a good feeder, politics is somewhat antithetical to football. TBD will survive just fine without PPP. If the management of PPP is a problem, then yes, close it and invade some other forum, destroy it and move on to another. 

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The reason for creating PPP in the first place was to keep politics out of TSW. It's kept TSW away from politics and makes it a better place. Any problems at PPP are created by the invasion of idiots like BillSlime who continuously posts stuff that is patently false. (I've already caught him 3 times just this morning) There are others, many of them who have had numerous different screen names. They've been previously banned but come back with a different name but the same schtick. For example, BillsMisery is back telling other posters how he is boffing their wives. He doesn't remember that kind of talk got him banned in the first place.

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  On 9/7/2020 at 11:28 AM, shoshin said:

 

(My view: We should have been closed for a maximum of two weeks, if that, and only in the hardest hit areas (NYC, some other northeast cities). At this point, the only people that should be taking lots of precautions are those at high risk. The rest of us should be at work, school, and restaurants.)

 

Maybe you're "thinking" of someone else as you name call and minimize the deaths from a world pandemic.

 

 

You seem like a good example of the great benefits and community building that people can see at TBD when they visit the PPP side!

 

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  On 9/7/2020 at 2:24 PM, shoshin said:


The troll and conspiracy posters are a visible symptom. PPP has bred far worse than that. 

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Then don’t visit.     No one will miss your posts.  

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  On 9/7/2020 at 11:28 AM, shoshin said:

 

(My view: We should have been closed for a maximum of two weeks, if that, and only in the hardest hit areas (NYC, some other northeast cities). At this point, the only people that should be taking lots of precautions are those at high risk. The rest of us should be at work, school, and restaurants.)

 

Maybe you're "thinking" of someone else as you name call and minimize the deaths from a world pandemic.

 

 

You seem like a good example of the great benefits and community building that people can see at TBD when they visit the PPP side!

 

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Are we talking about COVID or PPP?

 

Anywho, if I thought moderation could be fair, I would just input a "low-effort post" rule.  Single photos/memes and dumb ass one liners would be reportable and deleteable.

 

But impartial moderation would never happen.  Self-policing or bust.

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  On 9/7/2020 at 11:35 AM, shoshin said:

The powers-that-be can do whatever they want but PPP is a dark and seedy place...and that's only the things I know about.  

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PPP is “dark and seedy”. Why, Shoshin?
 

Show your work. 

  On 9/7/2020 at 2:28 PM, shoshin said:

Rhino started a dialog about PPP’s great community building merits and I chimed in dubious about it and amused that he would “accept if nominated” as moderator here, given his behavior as lead name caller and agenda pusher. 

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And what agenda is that? Show your work. 

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  On 9/7/2020 at 2:48 PM, 3rdnlng said:

My guess is that DR really has no desire to be a moderator...

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It's not as if I said I didn't want the job and recommended several others for it or anything :beer: 

 

  On 9/4/2020 at 7:53 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I don't want to do it, but would because I'm here enough. I'd love to see some others do it, but I have a feeling they wouldn't want the job (thinking of Buffalo Gal, Doc Brown, Azalin, KRC, and a few others). 

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