BullBuchanan Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Davante Adams is clearly WR1 in GB (says something about GB WR,) What does it say? Adams is a Tier 1 elite WR. 1
JoPoy88 Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: What does it say? Adams is a Tier 1 elite WR. Yeah i agree with you...is Adams somehow not an elite receiver in some peoples’ minds? I get that guys like Michael Thomas have raised the bar but damn, I’ll take Davante on the the Bills any day 2
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: What does it say? Adams is a Tier 1 elite WR. He is a good WR1, not a top WR1 IMO 15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: What does it say? Adams is a Tier 1 elite WR. He is ok as a #1, not a top tier #1 IMO. He has 1 x 1000 yd season in 6 seasons in GB. John Brown has the same number of 1k seasons in one season in Buffalo. Edited September 5, 2020 by RocCityRoller
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: He is a good WR1, not a top WR1 IMO He is ok as a #1, not a top tier #1 IMO. He has 1 x 1000 yd season in 6 seasons in GB. John Brown has the same number of 1k seasons in one season in Buffalo. Davante's problem isn't talent. It is health. He has played in 16 games once since his rookie year. 1
BullBuchanan Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: He is a good WR1, not a top WR1 IMO He is ok as a #1, not a top tier #1 IMO. He has 1 x 1000 yd season in 6 seasons in GB. John Brown has the same in one season in Buffalo. And he also has 44 touchdowns over that span. Considering he was a depth player his first two seasons, put up 997 yards twice, double digit TDs 3 times, and last year put up 997 over only 12 games played. I've watched him play a lot. He's no worse than 5th best in the league. 1
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Davante's problem isn't talent. It is health. He has played in 16 games once since his rookie year. Availability is an ability. The same could be said about John Brown. GB was ok with Davante, Allison, MVS, etc.... Buffalo had Jon Brown and went out and got Stephon Diggs. JB has 2x1k seasons, DA has 1. Similar # of seasons. JB did it among 3 teams, DA has 1 in the same # of seasons with 1 QB. Buffalo improved at WR, GB did not. No one talks about JB as a #1 WR, but DA is. It's ridiculous. By that logic, Buffalo now has 2 #1 WR 1
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, RocCityRoller said: Availability is an ability. The same could be said about John Brown. GB was ok with Davante, Allison, MVS, etc.... Buffalo had Jon Brown and went out and got Stephon Diggs. JB has 2x1k seasons, DA has 1. Similar # of seasons. JB did it among 3 teams, DA has 1 in the same # of seasons with 1 QB. Buffalo improved at WR, GB did not. No one talks about JB as a #1 WR, but DA is. It's ridiculous. By that logic, Buffalo now has 2 #1 WR You just put the tape one and it is obvious that Adams is a better player. The depth of Green Bay's receivers around him is not in question. It is bad. But Davante Adams is a top NFL receiver and a better player than John Brown.
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: You just put the tape one and it is obvious that Adams is a better player. The depth of Green Bay's receivers around him is not in question. It is bad. But Davante Adams is a top NFL receiver and a better player than John Brown. JB has more 1k seasons. Would GB gain by trading for Foster? Yes, Yes they would. That is my point. See the forest for the trees.
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said: JB has more 1k seasons. Would GB gain by trading for Foster? Yes, Yes they would. That is my point. See the forest for the trees. Green Bay would gain by trading for Eric Moulds. Even now. Their 2, 3, 4 is as bad as any depth in the league.
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Green Bay would gain by trading for Eric Moulds. Even now. Their 2, 3, 4 is as bad as any depth in the league. who wouldn't like Eric Moulds! He was a HOF talent wasted here. I'm only teasing you some. I think DA is an ok #1,but misses too many games. 1 1k season with Aaron Rogers, really. But now he is great? Questionable. He is great in the endzone/ red zone, but how much of that is Aaron Rogers? Buffalo had JB and improved. GB did not. GB could use a Robert Foster these days, which was the point of the OP
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: who wouldn't like Eric Moulds! He was a HOF talent wasted here. I'm only teasing you some. I think DA is an ok #1,but misses too many games. 1 1k season with Aaron Rogers, really. But now he is great? Questionable. He is great in the endzone/ red zone, but how much of that is Aaron Rogers? Buffalo had JB and improved. GB did not. GB could use a Robert Foster these days, which was the point of the OP I think Foster definitely has trade value. Have been saying that for weeks. He has game breaking speed and value as a special teams gunner. 1
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, ColeB said: Did you know he has a brother Osiris who is a WR for Stanford and a brother Amon-Ra who is a WR for USC? If those names aren’t strange enough, his parents’ last name is just Brown and their father has the most common name of John. Egytptian gods. It's a black power thing. I could take you to my hood, but we would both be uncomfortable there now.
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Not sure how this became a Davonte Adams thread. All I was saying is that after an ok DA as a #1 GB has nothing. Robert Foster has value there. He also has value to Philly and SF. I'd expect RF to sign with any of them after tomorrow if Beane can't get a 6 or 7 for him.
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Not sure why you and others wanted to fight me then!?! DA is a solid WR#1, not great, solid. After him it is garbage. GB needs WR. So do SF and Philly. A 6 or 7 for Foster makes sense since all of them need WR help. This thread is about Buffalo Bills with value at cut down. Foster has value to GB/SF/Philly. I hope we get a pick from him. I only chimed in on Adams. I never argued your point about Foster at all. You are wrong on Adams. You are right on Foster. 1
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I only chimed in on Adams. I never argued your point about Foster at all. You are wrong on Adams. You are right on Foster. Fair enough, I think Adams is only 'ok'. He misses too many games IMO. I'm one of those folks who believes availability is an ability. But then again I am a manager in my role. To get back to our Bills, how great is it now that we are arguing about players being cut for a better roster? Honest question, was anyone cut Friday other than the 2 on Defense?
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said: Fair enough, I think Adams is only 'ok'. He misses too many games IMO. I'm one of those folks who believes availability is an ability. But then again I am a manager in my role. To get back to our Bills, how great is it now that we are arguing about players being cut for a better roster? Honest question, was anyone cut Friday other than the 2 on Defense? The Bills roster is stacked. Thompson was on the 53 last year. Joseph is one year removed from being a 5th round pick. Yet neither found a spot. Those were the only two cuts we heard about. DiMarco IR for the year was the other significant move. I'd be surprised if we got a pick for Croom, but Foster I can see a player teams might flick a 6th or a 7th for.
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: The Bills roster is stacked. Thompson was on the 53 last year. Joseph is one year removed from being a 5th round pick. Yet neither found a spot. Those were the only two cuts we heard about. DiMarco IR for the year was the other significant move. I'd be surprised if we got a pick for Croom, but Foster I can see a player teams might flick a 6th or a 7th for. Thanks, I didn't miss too much today. OK with Thompson and Joseph going. Good college/ role players, didn't translate to the NFL. I appreciate the update.
nucci Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 6 hours ago, iinii said: This thread is now 12 pages long and is still a bunch dogs chasing a metaphorical bone; so yeah pretty useless. you have the option to ignore it 2
CorkScrewHill Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Maybe I am reading too much into this, but better buffalo bills.com mentioned4 transactions yesterday including activating Sweeney. Now the only mention the IR and 2 cuts. I thought it was odd they would elevate him from PUP the day before cutdown as it means they would have to cut another person. If they wait till after cutdown they can slide Feliciano to no season ending IR and bring back Sweeney with one less cut
thebandit27 Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Looks like Dodson and the LB they acquired from Carolina are both making the final 53.
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