Presidential Debates 2020

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Somehow you are too intelligent to write things like the poster I quoted. So I'll take that as you know that something's wrong with it, but that poster is a fellow traveler so you don't want to condemn it.

 

Critical race theory -- in all its forms -- reinforces racism and tries to combat racism by offering more racism. Like, as an example, taking a benign comment and twisting it into a racist attack where none was intended. The purpose of CT is to tear down everything it touches without offering a solution or replacement to what it destroys. It's pure Marxism -- and literally nothing good ever came from Marxist philosophy or reinterpretation. Marxism is brain poison, and CT is the gateway drug to the harder ideologies.  

 

(This is not meant as an attack on you -- I don't think you're a Marxist, but there is CT creep in your language which you might be unaware of)

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Critical race theory -- in all its forms -- reinforces racism and tries to combat racism by offering more racism. Like, as an example, taking a benign comment and twisting it into a racist attack where none was intended. The purpose of CT is to tear down everything it touches without offering a solution or replacement to what it destroys. It's pure Marxism -- and literally nothing good ever came from Marxist philosophy or reinterpretation. Marxism is brain poison, and CT is the gateway drug to the harder ideologies.  

And what is your formal training in Marxist political theory and critical race theory? 

I have had more than my fair share at the graduate level, and I reject both.

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

And what is your formal training in Marxist political theory and critical race theory? 

I have had more than my fair share at the graduate level, and I reject both.

 

I'm a historian by training and education, including graduate school. 

 

 

... And I spent the past 12 years working in Hollywood, right in the belly of the beast  

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I'm a historian by training and education, including graduate school. 

Well then you should know better.

I did not do the old "you used a dog whistle blah blah blah." It was a specific reference to Biden being unable to serve so that "angry black K. Harris" will ascend to the presidency. That's blatant.

[Westside]

2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I am not "the left." I voted for Romney for chrissakes.

Because people are either inadvertently or deliberately mischaracterizing what I had a problem with, I'll share it again:

 

There have been 44 Presidents (G Cleveland counted 2x), /9= over 20% chance Biden will not finish term.

But of the two, Biden 4-5 years older, lack of campaigning stamina, gaffs all make Trump the better choice, especially with an angry black K Harris as the. President in waiting

I really don't see the difference between calling her that and the left saying angry old white men. 

Voting for Romney is like voting for the left. Lol

I kid, I kid....

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, westside2 said:

I really don't see the difference between calling her that and the left saying angry old white men. 

Voting for Romney is like voting for the left. Lol

I kid, I kid....

Maybe Biden and Harris will make you a Democrat again 

[Westside]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Maybe Biden and Harris will make you a Democrat again 

I highly doubt it. Tulsi  Gabbard on the other hand I could get behind. Lol

I actually liked Wang as well. The rest were way too left for me.

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, westside2 said:

I highly doubt it. Tulsi  Gabbard on the other hand I could get behind. Lol

I actually liked Wang as well. The rest were way too left for me.

 

Pretty 

[Doc]

56 minutes ago, BeerLeagueHockey said:

I guess I should have specified live, in-person debates will never happen.  Virtual, maybe?

 

No, I meant live, in-person debates will happen.

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Critical race theory -- in all its forms -- reinforces racism and tries to combat racism by offering more racism. Like, as an example, taking a benign comment and twisting it into a racist attack where none was intended. The purpose of CT is to tear down everything it touches without offering a solution or replacement to what it destroys. It's pure Marxism -- and literally nothing good ever came from Marxist philosophy or reinterpretation. Marxism is brain poison, and CT is the gateway drug to the harder ideologies.  

 

(This is not meant as an attack on you -- I don't think you're a Marxist, but there is CT creep in your language which you might be unaware of)

I respectfully disagree.

Now to turn the tables -- and also not meant as an attack on you -- do you realize how close some of the conspiratorial thinking you engage in comes to classical Marxist thought? 

Marxism: the world is run by the interest of capital (read: capitalists). They will occasionally give the ordinary person the illusion of control, but this is simply to perpetuate the system and to stave off the proletarian revolution. 

Whatever the New Trumpist Thing is Called: the world is run by hidden powers backed by (yep) capitalists like George Soros. They use mechanisms of control, including the potential for blackmail, to stay in power. It is important that they give you some illusion of free will lest you rebel and displace the deep state through the ballot box or through other means.

 

I do not believe in either flavor of World Domination Conspiracy. Which one of us is further from Marxist (some academics prefer "Marxian" -- as in influenced by Marx, but not explicitly adopting his view of the progression of political economy) thought? Which one of us has gone so far right that he's starting to revolve around the planet to shake hands with Glenn Greenwald and Julian Assange and Edward Snowden?

Edited September 14, 2020 by The Frankish Reich

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

Fake quotes............how apropos 

 

 

 

 

 

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[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

 

 

So a guy sets up his own online/twitter poll on something called Poll Watch -- "Election information, analysis, and opinion. Republican." -- and lo and behold, 92.8% of his readers love this idea. In other news, recent government polling in Belarus shows overwhelming support for Lukashenko.

Come on, you can do better than this.

[Buffalo_Gal]

31 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

So a guy sets up his own online/twitter poll on something called Poll Watch -- "Election information, analysis, and opinion. Republican." -- and lo and behold, 92.8% of his readers love this idea. In other news, recent government polling in Belarus shows overwhelming support for Lukashenko.

Come on, you can do better than this.

I wonder if it is possible to buy a sense of humor? If so, you should look into it.
 

[The Frankish Reich]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I wonder if it is possible to buy a sense of humor? If so, you should look into it.
 

Evidently I missed the extraordinarily dry humor with which you delivered (without any kind of comment) a totally bogus poll result. 

EDIT: there is nothing funny about eating children! (that seems to be the go-to around here)

 

 

Edited September 15, 2020 by The Frankish Reich

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Evidently I missed the extraordinarily dry humor with which you delivered (without any kind of comment) a totally bogus poll result. 

 

 

 

I mean, her post leads off with a  ... it wasn't hidden  

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

Evidently I missed the extraordinarily dry humor with which you delivered (without any kind of comment) a totally bogus poll result. 

 

 

For next time, this >>> which is titled lol,  is a clue the item may be humorous.

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

For next time, this >>> which is titled lol,  is a clue the item may be humorous.

OK, OK, subtlety is not typically your stock in trade. I see it now.

[snafu]

39 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

EDIT: there is nothing funny about eating children! (that seems to be the go-to around here)

 

Nobody around here claims that children should starve.

 

 

[Doc]

At the debates, all Trump has to do when Biden starts talking about what he's going to do is ask "you've been in government for 49 years and VP for 8 of those, and had full control of Congress in the first year.  Why didn't you do anything then?  Was Obama inept?"