WR strategy - Dont cut - Trade for conditional 7th round picks

[CardinalScotts]

29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Isn't that exactly what the Bills did yesterday.....?

conditionally... meaning only IF he makes the team. - and for a 7th which at this point on the bills is a throw away

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, CardinalScotts said:

conditionally... meaning only IF he makes the team. - and for a 7th which at this point on the bills is a throw away

 

Yea agreed. But that is what is being suggested here too and the post I responded to said no team does it. They do. And often it is a smart move. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

We have the entire slate of WRs returning from 2019 and added three more bodies to that group - Diggs, Davis and Hodgins. Clearly we cant carry 9 WRs on the roster - so have to leave 2-3 WRs unprotected - either through cuts or on PS.

 

The Jets'  WR slate is worse than the Bills circa 2018 (with Jones and Foster). Mims, Perriman, Berrios, Hogan and Crowder are all questionable with varying degrees of injuries.  I am almost positive that the WR(s) cut by us is (are) going to be gobbled up by the Jets. Now Packers and 49ers also need WRs in the worst way possible. But Jets will have waiver claim priority on those teams.

 

That is why I am hoping the Bills trade them to the NFC (Packers / 49ers) netting conditional 7th rounders if necessary. Why leave these nice WRs for our division foes?

 

Of course there is also the danger of our PS guys being signed outright by the Jets - but that is a risk we have to live with.

which Bills WR cut is going to be trade worthy?

 

the cfl guy?

 

the fast guy with 3 catches last year? 

 

Mckenzie? 
 

I just don’t see it 

[Rochesterfan]

16 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

So besides all the obvious comments already being made, you also need to a trading partner.  That becomes harder too when all the other teams know you're dumping these guys in a couple of days anyway.  The only advantage a team has in making a trade for one of them is they then get exclusive rights to him.  So is that really worth a trade? 

 

You specifically mention SF and Green Bay, well I'd think if I'm the GM of either of those teams, also throw in Saints, Cowboys, Tampa, Minn, Atlanta, Seattle, plus AFC teams like KC, and Pitt I'd assume I'd have a leg up on the competition to start with as most WR would like to go to a team with a good to great QB, so again why bother making the trade.  A more likely trading partner might be a bad team as they'd have a harder chance signing him as a FA, but is it worth the trade.

 

I'm sure Beane is already advertising that he's listening to all offers for Duke, Foster, and McKenzie.  Even if he wanted to keep one of them, likely would take an offer instead.

 

This is true once they clear waivers, but if a team (GB/SF) has their eyes on one or two guys in particular - their waiver wire spot is low enough they may miss out.

 

Much like the Bills did with Andre Smith - sometimes you throw a 7th rounder out to ensure you get your guy.  
 

A lower/bad team should be using the waiver wire to their advantage and not trading, but picking these guys up free and clear.  
 

Until they clear waivers - the players do not get a choice. 

[JohnNord]

As many have pointed out - it seems to be a no-brainer!  
 

The problem is many teams know that the Bills are stacked at WR and will likely be releasing the WR’s you mentioned.  They really have to like a player to trade a pick (even if it is a 6th or 7th) because they are scared of another team swooping in.

 

Its like buying something at the end of a yard sale, when you know they’ll just put the stuff out on a curb.  
 

Also, I don’t think that not having a preseason could hurt the value of some of these players.

[Rc2catch]

On 9/1/2020 at 4:13 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

which Bills WR cut is going to be trade worthy?

 

the cfl guy?

 

the fast guy with 3 catches last year? 

 

Mckenzie? 
 

I just don’t see it 

Agreed. We are placing way higher value on some of these guys than what they’re actually worth to another team. 
 

Best case scenario is Beane calling lynch in San Fran or some other team  and saying hey you got any corners you’re gonna cut you wanna trade for one of these receivers I’m about to cut? 
Giving away a draft pick probably ain’t happening. Be plenty of free agent receivers out there for teams who are probably better than our fringe guys that get cut 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

Agreed. We are placing way higher value on some of these guys than what they’re actually worth to another team. 
 

Best case scenario is Beane calling lynch in San Fran or some other team  and saying hey you got any corners you’re gonna cut you wanna trade for one of these receivers I’m about to cut? 
Giving away a draft pick probably ain’t happening. Be plenty of free agent receivers out there for teams who are probably better than our fringe guys that get cut 

Yeah SF got whacked hard in the WR department after looking stout on paper after the draft 

[IgotBILLStopay]

11 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

This is true once they clear waivers, but if a team (GB/SF) has their eyes on one or two guys in particular - their waiver wire spot is low enough they may miss out.

 

Much like the Bills did with Andre Smith - sometimes you throw a 7th rounder out to ensure you get your guy.  
 

A lower/bad team should be using the waiver wire to their advantage and not trading, but picking these guys up free and clear.  
 

Until they clear waivers - the players do not get a choice. 

Thanks, That was the point of the original post - and I wrote it badly.

[BillsFanForever19]

Honestly, I don't really care if the Jets, Dolphins, or Patriots sign Isaiah McKenzie, Duke Williams, and/or Robert Foster. We traded for Diggs and drafted Davis and Hodgins for a reason. We needed an upgrade from those guys.