snafu Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/1/2020 at 7:38 AM, Tiberius said: Just a note, the polls from NC look great for Biden, and that is a spike to the heart of the devil Trump Results Spread Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Biden 49, Trump 43 Biden +6 Florida: Trump vs. Biden St. Pete Polls Biden 49, Trump 48 Biden +1 Florida: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Biden 47, Trump 44 Biden +3 Florida: Trump vs. Biden ABC News/Wash Post* Biden 48, Trump 50 Trump +2 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Biden 52, Trump 41 Biden +11 Arizona: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Biden 49, Trump 43 Biden +6 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden ABC News/Wash Post* Biden 51, Trump 44 Biden +7 New Mexico: Trump vs. Biden Albuquerque Journal Biden 54, Trump 42 Biden +12 Arizona Senate - McSally vs. Kelly NY Times/Siena Kelly 50, McSally 43 Kelly +7 New Mexico Senate - Ronchetti vs. Lujan Albuquerque Journal* Lujan 52, Ronchetti 44 Lujan +8 Those polls were off by quite a bit. Biden +11 in Wisconsin? He's leading by 20,000 votes and the state hasn't been called. Florida? Pennsylvania Biden +7? Were they rolling dice to get their numbers? 1
aristocrat Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: 270towin has current odds on each outstanding state. Trump is favored in Alaska, Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona which would put him at 259. Of the 4 remaining (Pennsylvania, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan) his best odds are with Pennsylvania at 30.4% which would seal it for him. Even if he eeks out Nevada, he still needs one other of PA, WI, or MI plus all the ones he's favored in to get over the hump. wow you're right. if he takes zona holy ***** tomorrow is gonna be a bananas day
Plano Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, snafu said: Those polls were off by quite a bit. Biden +11 in Wisconsin? He's leading by 20,000 votes and the state hasn't been called. Florida? Pennsylvania Biden +7? Were they rolling dice to get their numbers? Wisconsin was just called. Only 300 votes not processed. Trump lost that one. What's next?
TheElectricCompany Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: Let the Dems and GOP cater to their most radical supporters and let someone else run a campaign straight down the middle on responsible spending and letting people do whatever the hell they want with social issues. Meet the Libertarian Party - socially liberal and fiscally conservative!
jrober38 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Plano said: Wisconsin was just called. Only 300 votes not processed. Trump lost that one. What's next? Michigan also seems like it's going Biden. Only Dem strongholds with vote remaining. If Arizona goes Dem tonight it's over. Edited November 4, 2020 by jrober38
snafu Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Plano said: Wisconsin was just called. Only 300 votes not processed. Trump lost that one. What's next? Who called it? I don't see it on AP. What's next? Biden President after some legal B.S. moves from Republicans.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, snafu said: Who called it? I don't see it on AP. What's next? Biden President after some legal B.S. moves from Republicans. CNN, according to the shoutbox. 1
snafu Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: CNN, according to the shoutbox. AP just did, too.
Doc Brown Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 Trump's asking for a Wisconson recount. He's down about 20,000 and when they did a recount in 2016 there were plus 131 for Trump on the recount.
Big Gun Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Plano said: Wisconsin was just called. Only 300 votes not processed. Trump lost that one. What's next? BS, both Wisconsin and Michigan miraculously found over 130,000 votes each at 4am nearly 100% of said ballots, all of them were Biden votes, yeah I don't think so. This obvious ballot fraud/tampering will not go unchallenged. Trump will win Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania and when it's done and said Michigan and Wisconsin will be red also. 1
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Big Gun said: BS, both Wisconsin and Michigan miraculously found over 130,000 votes each at 4am nearly 100% of said ballots, all of them were Biden votes, yeah I don't think so. This obvious ballot fraud/tampering will not go unchallenged. Trump will win Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania and when it's done and said Michigan and Wisconsin will be red also. Nah, Michigan was an error and it was corrected at 5:14 am 1
Numark3 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Big Gun said: BS, both Wisconsin and Michigan miraculously found over 130,000 votes each at 4am nearly 100% of said ballots, all of them were Biden votes, yeah I don't think so. This obvious ballot fraud/tampering will not go unchallenged. link??? (because this is not true) Edited November 4, 2020 by Crayola64 1
jrober38 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Big Gun said: BS, both Wisconsin and Michigan miraculously found over 130,000 votes each at 4am nearly 100% of said ballots, all of them were Biden votes, yeah I don't think so. This obvious ballot fraud/tampering will not go unchallenged. Trump will win Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania and when it's done and said Michigan and Wisconsin will be red also. Fake news. The guy who claimed this about Michigan retracted what he said after being shown it was wrong. And they didn't "find" any ballots. They've been sitting at polling sites waiting to be counted. The rules, as dictated by the Republicans at the state level was that mail in ballots couldn't be counted until the in person ballots were all recorded. As a result, there were huge collections of Dem votes added late into the night, which was expected because all polling said the Dems were going to overwhelmingly vote by mail. 1
Big Gun Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: link??? (because this is not true) all over the news everywhere open your ears and listen to something other than main stream media
Plano Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, Big Gun said: BS, both Wisconsin and Michigan miraculously found over 130,000 votes each at 4am nearly 100% of said ballots, all of them were Biden votes, yeah I don't think so. This obvious ballot fraud/tampering will not go unchallenged. Trump will win Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania and when it's done and said Michigan and Wisconsin will be red also. cry more and also punch yourself for spreading lies 1
HeHateMe Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: the one thing going trumps way would be that the mail ins are already counted so he could in fact have an advantage. Are these votes still OK to count? Just not the ones in Michigan and Pennsylvania? Asking for a friend.
snafu Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Plano said: cry more and also punch yourself for spreading lies ABC Site took Arizona off "Biden". 17 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Trump's asking for a Wisconson recount. He's down about 20,000 and when they did a recount in 2016 there were plus 131 for Trump on the recount. I hear you, when it is said and done, Wisconsin will stay blue, but this year can't compare to 2016, just based on logistics of early and mail-in votes. 20,000 is a lot to overcome. 1
Tiberius Posted November 4, 2020 Author Posted November 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, snafu said: Those polls were off by quite a bit. Biden +11 in Wisconsin? He's leading by 20,000 votes and the state hasn't been called. Florida? Pennsylvania Biden +7? Were they rolling dice to get their numbers? For sure there is a problem with the polls.
dickleyjones Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 polls are not wrong. they asked questions, people answered, they reported it. what is wrong is extrapolating with any certainty. 1
Plano Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, snafu said: ABC Site took Arizona off "Biden". I hear you, when it is said and done, Wisconsin will stay blue, but this year can't compare to 2016, just based on logistics of early and mail-in votes. 20,000 is a lot to overcome. I've found that the AP Map has been the most accurate thus far. How about you? I also found that Fox News had really good coverage last night, compared between a few others, CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc.
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