I’m seeing 12+ wins for this team...

[Chandler#81]

16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

10-6

Even with the most optimistic post of your tenure here, you’re a sourpuss ?‍♂️

[GunnerBill]

20 minutes ago, eball said:

 

So far, McD has done a good job of not allowing that to happen.  I don’t think the Bills will lose a couple they “should have” won, I just think there will be a couple of hard fought games against good teams that may not go our way.

 

Tell me — as an opposing coach, what exactly do you look at when you have to play the Bills and think “oh good, we can really take advantage of that?”  The Bills are a beast for any team to handle.  You think other teams are just counting on a couple of errant Josh Allen throws?

 

Last year the Bills proved to themselves they belong in the conversation.  This year they take the next step.

 

If I am gameplanning against the Bills it definitely involves a heavy dose of inside zone rushing on offense. When I need to throw I want to throw at the opposite side of the field to Tre White as much as possible. But I want to be 50/50 at worst and ideally 60/40 runs to passes. Three of the Bills defeats in 2019 came against teams who ran more than they passed against us. 

 

On defense I am playing a lot of cover 3 going man to man on Diggs with my best corner, shading safety help to John Brown's side and then I am getting exotic up front to confuse Josh not letting him see the same look twice (which tends to result in him holding the ball and missing guys being open) and running overloads on my left side to expose the weaker portion of the Bills offensive line. Basically I am willing for the most part to let him have Beasley and Knox and feel it is harder for the Bills to beat us if they are the guys catching a lot of balls. 

 

Not saying at all the Bills are an easy out. They won't be for anybody. But that is the formula I think if you are going to try and beat us. 

Edited August 30, 2020 by GunnerBill

[eball]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If I am gameplanning against the Bills it definitely involves a heavy dose of inside zone rushing on offense. When I need to throw I want to throw at the opposite side of the field to Tre White as much as possible. But I want to be 50/50 at worst and ideally 60/40 runs to passes. Three of the Bills defeats in 2019 came against teams who ran more than they passed against us. 

 

On defense I am playing a lot of cover 3 going man to man on Diggs with my best corner, shading safety help to John Brown's side and then I am getting exotic up front to confuse Josh not letting him see the same look twice (which tends to result in him holding the ball and missing guys being open) and running overloads on my left side to expose the weaker portion of the Bills offensive line. Basically I am willing for the most part to let him have Beasley and Knox and feel it is harder for the Bills to beat us if they are the guys catching a lot of balls. 

 

Not saying at all the Bills are an easy out. They won't be for anybody. But that is the formula I think if you are going to try and beat us. 

 

If this year’s D shows they are better against the run (which I expect) it’s an incredibly tough ask for opposing offenses.  As for Buffalo’s O, I use last year as the floor with the addition of Diggs, Moss, a healthy Kroft, and an additional year of growth/experience for Josh.  The running game should be better (Moss > Gore), the passing game should be better...yes, I know teams will have a plan but I like our chances.

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, eball said:

 

If this year’s D shows they are better against the run (which I expect) it’s an incredibly tough ask for opposing offenses.  As for Buffalo’s O, I use last year as the floor with the addition of Diggs, Moss, a healthy Kroft, and an additional year of growth/experience for Josh.  The running game should be better (Moss > Gore), the passing game should be better...yes, I know teams will have a plan but I like our chances.

 

For sure the Bills are tough to gameplan against. But you asked a question - how do you do it? I answered it. No team in the NFL is impossible the gameplan against. Not even Kansas City. The better teams are though tougher than the rest. The Bills are in that tougher category. 

[eball]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

For sure the Bills are tough to gameplan against. But you asked a question - how do you do it? I answered it. No team in the NFL is impossible the gameplan against. Not even Kansas City. The better teams are though tougher than the rest. The Bills are in that tougher category. 

 

Of course, I get it — my point is simply that there isn’t one glaring area you look at as a weakness.

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, eball said:

I see the Bills going 6-0 in the East

 

The Patriots have only done this twice since 2001 and one of those was their perfect season. On paper we are a lot better than the rest of the division but divisional games are weird.

[eball]

26 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

The Patriots have only done this twice since 2001 and one of those was their perfect season. On paper we are a lot better than the rest of the division but divisional games are weird.

 

Yep, I get it...I wouldn’t be surprised if they drop one to the Pats***.

[HappyDays]

Just now, eball said:

 

Yep, I get it...I wouldn’t be surprised if they drop one to the Pats***.

 

The way I see our season shaking out, I think we will rest our starters week 17 against the Dolphins. I think we will have the division locked up by then but won't in contention for the #1 seed.

[Rc2catch]

I’d float with the 9-7 10-6 range. 
I never like to be too confident before a season even starts. 
I can’t confidently say this is a top tier team until I see Allen be able to takeover a game with his arm. He’s the key to this being a Super Bowl caliber team. 

[RalphWilson'sNewWar]

This team is such an enigma.  Loaded with talent on paper, but have been so little tested as a group. And for the tests they have faced...lost almost all of them.

 

Just don’t know what they will do against good teams/quarterbacks considering their track record.

 

still though...9-7 at least

[Logic]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If I am gameplanning against the Bills it definitely involves a heavy dose of inside zone rushing on offense. When I need to throw I want to throw at the opposite side of the field to Tre White as much as possible. But I want to be 50/50 at worst and ideally 60/40 runs to passes. Three of the Bills defeats in 2019 came against teams who ran more than they passed against us. 

 

On defense I am playing a lot of cover 3 going man to man on Diggs with my best corner, shading safety help to John Brown's side and then I am getting exotic up front to confuse Josh not letting him see the same look twice (which tends to result in him holding the ball and missing guys being open) and running overloads on my left side to expose the weaker portion of the Bills offensive line. Basically I am willing for the most part to let him have Beasley and Knox and feel it is harder for the Bills to beat us if they are the guys catching a lot of balls. 

 

Not saying at all the Bills are an easy out. They won't be for anybody. But that is the formula I think if you are going to try and beat us. 

Feels like the Bills should be suspending GunnerBill any minute now...

[BullBuchanan]

I see us losing:
Rams
Chiefs
Seahawks
Steelers
49ers
Patriots 2x

Finish 9-7.

We've been the beneficiaries of extremely favorable schedules the last several years. That likely shifts a bit this season.

Edited August 30, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[eball]

53 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

And for the tests they have faced...lost almost all of them.

 

In 2019 the Bills had six “tests” — NE*** twice, Baltimore, Dallas, Pittsburgh, and Houston.  They won two and lost four, with a still incomplete roster.  More importantly (to me), every game was within their grasp.  Fear over not being tested should not be a concern; this team knows they belong.

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, eball said:

 

Of course, I get it — my point is simply that there isn’t one glaring area you look at as a weakness.

My biggest question mark is Allen against man coverage.  He lit up zones, but often struggled against man.  Growth in that area will be paramount if the Bills are to advance past the first round of playoffs this season. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

5 hours ago, first_and_ten said:

 

Love your optimism and I hope you're right but I feel you may be a bit overly optimistic

But why? 
 

Our salary cap’s been cleaned up, our roster is competitively deep at almost each marquee position, our QB’s chemistry with the new ammo has the goods written all over it, and we have less opt outs than the Patsies. Just wondering why @eballshould be reined in? 

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

19 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

My biggest question mark is Allen against man coverage.  He lit up zones, but often struggled against man.  Growth in that area will be paramount if the Bills are to advance past the first round of playoffs this season. 

The Bills were relatively weak at receiver last year so it makes sense they struggled against man.

[ghostwriter]

I think we’d get smooshed against the Chiefs if we meet in the playoffs...but I do think we could beat the Ravens or 49ers if we meet them in the playoffs.. I would say that 12 wins is a possibility.. not saying we’ll get 12 wins but I don’t think you’re crazy for implying it... not that far fetched at all.. should at least get 11 wins.. I think 10 wins would be underwhelming if that’s all we get.. hopefully 12+ wins! ?

[BarleyNY]

27 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

The Bills were relatively weak at receiver last year so it makes sense they struggled against man.

It’s also how defenses often find success against QBs with accuracy issues.  For example, Cam Newton has been at the top of the league in percentage of man coverage versus zone during his career.  I’m hoping Allen has improved his mechanics this offseason and is better in that regard.  It’ll be huge if he has.  I’m really looking forward to seeing Diggs in a Bills uni too, but Allen’s development is what I’m most anxious about.

[Virgil]

4 hours ago, Seasons1992 said:

 

*actual picture of @Virgil*

 

Get out of my house!

[machine gun kelly]

4 hours ago, Seasons1992 said:

 

*actual picture of @Virgil*

 

Well isn’t that pic precious.  Lovin it Seasons.  I’m only halfway through the thread, but conservatively say 10-6, and aggressively 11-5.  Why?  Because another poster is right, we have one of the most difficult schedules in the NFL, but that changes as games are played.  You can’t discount KC, SF, Seattle, and TN almost went to the SB.  No one wants to take them seriously, but they were crushing it when they switched to Tannehill.  Not because he is a world beater before people shoot this down, but he managed the game, most teams didn’t have an answer for Henry, and a really strong defense.  Hence going 9-7, but beating NE in NE, and Baltimore in Baltimore.  They lost to KC when KC poured it on, but they were competitive in the beginning of the game.  TN rode the Henry bus, but after over 1500 yards in the regular season and two road playoff wins, he was tired in the KC game.

 

That game will be tough.  We’re going to lose 1 or 2 games we expect to win and the above teams we should beat some of them.

 

Good news is we will be so battle hardened at let’s say 11-5 and winning the East, we will be completely ready for the Chiefs, Ravens, guessing the Colts, and whoever wins the WC spots.  I’m with you eball.  I hope with all my heart I’m wrong, and you’re right.  I mean that.  12-4 would be freakin awesome, but knowing you one area we agree is who cares the record, if we go deep, hopefully very deep in the playoffs we’ll all be happy.

 

Go Bills!