NickelCity Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 I'll care about the patriots**** insofar as it affects the Bills W/L ratio. The petty side of me doesn't even like seeing this stuff on the front page of a Bills message board, heh. 1
eball Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 1:32 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Guys, you don’t play an awful football player ahead of a former MVP. If Cam is healthy, I am as likely to start at QB for the Pats as Hoyer. It’s the same with Stidham. This was never a QB competition. They waited until Cam’s price dropped and they got their QB. Expand So simple and yet so many are confused... 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 1:01 PM, H2o said: Cam's just trying to say the right things. Truthfully, he's more focused on his outfit for the first post-game interview. Expand On 8/27/2020 at 1:02 PM, teef said: unless something goes seriously wrong, cam is the starter. Expand you mean aside from what he wears post game, which is seriously wrong, or at least puzzling
Kirby Jackson Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 7:46 PM, eball said: So simple and yet so many are confused... Expand It really is. I don’t expect Cam to be great but I expect him to be competent. The gap from Stidham/Hoyer to competent is a chasm. The Patriots went from the worst QB room in the league to competent. That’s the difference between being a 6 win team and an 8 or 9 win team (the opt outs play a role too). 1
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 2:03 PM, Billl said: People here want so badly to believe that Cam is going to be a disaster and that the Patriots are going to suck for all of eternity that they’re willing to pretend that Cam was signed to back up Stidham and Hoyer. Sorry to say it, but BB isn’t an idiot, and Cam is a competent QB even if he isn’t what he once was. In fact, Cam is probably the closest comp to Josh Allen in terms of his skill set, style of play, and limitations. Expand ? Pats fan. This poster is a Pats fan. ?
Doc Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 8:57 PM, Kirby Jackson said: It really is. I don’t expect Cam to be great but I expect him to be competent. The gap from Stidham/Hoyer to competent is a chasm. The Patriots went from the worst QB room in the league to competent. That’s the difference between being a 6 win team and an 8 or 9 win team (the opt outs play a role too). Expand They weren't even a 6 win team with Hoyer or Stidham and the lack of receiving options, plus the opt-outs. I'd say they're now a 6-7 win team with Cam.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) On 8/27/2020 at 9:37 PM, Doc said: They weren't even a 6 win team with Hoyer or Stidham and the lack of receiving options, plus the opt-outs. I'd say they're now a 6-7 win team with Cam. Expand I guess that I have it as a 2 game swing based on 1 game that Cam will steal plus 1 game where Hoyer/Stidham would be horrible and hand away. The Pats shouldn’t be too good either way but they are absolutely better with Cam (if healthy) than those 2 stooges behind him. They were never the plan though. It could have been Dalton. It could have been Cam. It could have been Mariota. It could have been Herbert. It was never going to be Stidham/Hoyer. That was wishful thinking on our part. I so desperately wanted them to go that route. Edited August 27, 2020 by Kirby Jackson
Doc Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 9:45 PM, Kirby Jackson said: I guess that I have it as a 2 game swing based on 1 game that Cam will steal plus 1 game where Hoyer/Stidham would be horrible and hand away. The Pats shouldn’t be too good either way but they are absolutely better with Cam (if healthy) than those 2 stooges behind him. They were never the plan though. It could have been Dalton. It could have been Cam. It could have been Mariota. It could have been Herbert. It was never going to be Stidham/Hoyer. That was wishful thinking on our part. I so desperately wanted them to go that route. Expand I agree that Cam is probably worth 2 wins. But there didn't seem to be a plan since they never made a serious play for any of the other guys and had to wait until Cam's market dried-up and he was forced to accept league minimum before signing him. 1
Locomark Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 2:26 PM, 1st&ten said: Oh boy more Patriot news for the ESPN guys to debate. Expand No cap, they only cover their practice daily and people on this site, including me only talk about them daily. Let’s just trash them twice no matter who starts and put them in the rear view once and for all.
vincec Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 1:05 PM, nucci said: Possible but Hoyer is a terrible QB Expand Yeah, but other than that...
The Wiz Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 12:54 PM, Putin said: Who’s Hoyster ? Expand Those are those special oysters you can only get in NE. They got the HGH cooked in them but it doesn't roll off the tongue as good. 1
Turk71 Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 12:48 PM, cd1 said: "That label is not important to me right now because I know I have so much to get better at, so much that I need to learn, so much that I need to be comfortable with, and throughout this process, that’s the last thing that I’m pretty much worried about, knowing that there are certain things that when I come to the line of scrimmage and it’s just not as firing mentally as I would want it to be rather than other plays that may be called". Expand That's one helluva long sentence, seems he doesn't know the system/playbook yet.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 I have expected Stidham to start this whole time but who knows? All I know is, whoever the Pats QB is..it won’t be Brady. It won’t be the best QB in the history of Football. So I’m cool with that. I will sign up for: Anybody other then the guy we have dealt with for the past 20 years.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 12:48 PM, cd1 said: https://www.al.com/sports/2020/08/cam-newton-absolutely-not-the-patriots-starting-qb.html Belicheat must be so pleased... Expand I see a whole lot of nothing here.
without a drought Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 Maybe they're waiting for the Bills to release Barkley. On 8/28/2020 at 3:06 AM, The Wiz said: Those are those special oysters you can only get in NE. They got the HGH cooked in them but it doesn't roll off the tongue as good. Expand I thought it was THC. They didn't mellow me out at all.
billsfan_34 Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) On 8/27/2020 at 12:59 PM, RoyBatty is alive said: I have always thought Hoyer was going to start to begin the season. Hoyer knows the system and has had a ton of experience. Not flashy but can be an adequate game manager, maybe with running a lot and with that D (as depleted as it is) that is enough for the Pats to win this year..as long as Hoyer doesnt lose if for them. Expand Hoyer is a journeyman and Cam, if his head is on straight and healthy, is a top QB in the league. I cannot see Cam not starting day 1. Edited August 31, 2020 by billsfan_34 1
Franco_92 Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 8:57 PM, Kirby Jackson said: It really is. I don’t expect Cam to be great but I expect him to be competent. The gap from Stidham/Hoyer to competent is a chasm. The Patriots went from the worst QB room in the league to competent. That’s the difference between being a 6 win team and an 8 or 9 win team (the opt outs play a role too). Expand I think it's possible that Cam is competent. But I watched his last several games in a Panthers uniform and I would not use that word to describe what I saw, even with shoulder issues. He was awful. He still may be bad, even if hes healed (and it's tough to assume hell remain healthy at this point)
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