Kirby Jackson Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, LB3 said: 1. He had a mask. There are videos. 2. He drove to stop rioters from burning down innocent businesses. Why did he shoot multiple people with an AR 15?
LB3 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Why did he shoot multiple people with an AR 15? They attacked him. Did you not see it? Do you need me to post the before and after videos? Edited August 27, 2020 by LB3
JoPoy88 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, LB3 said: 1. He had a mask. There are videos. 2. He drove to stop rioters from burning down innocent businesses. You know (2) how? Oh, did you read his facebook manifesto? Belong to some of the same groups maybe? And he wasn’t wearing a mask while he was brandishing his gun down the street waving at people chief. I know, I know, “fake news” right? 1
LB3 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, JoPoy88 said: You know (2) how? Oh, did you read his facebook manifesto? Belong to some of the same groups maybe? And he wasn’t wearing a mask while he was brandishing his gun down the street waving at people chief. I know, I know, “fake news” right? He was wearing it when the unmasked head shot guy was telling the kid to shoot him. The head shot guy also kept using the n word a lot.
JoPoy88 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Why did he shoot multiple people with an AR 15? Self defense Kirby obviously. A bottle landed in his general direction so he put one in someone’s head 2
LB3 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, JoPoy88 said: Self defense Kirby obviously. A bottle landed in his general direction so he put one in someone’s head I guess you haven't seen the videos. A low information supporter. I'm not surprised. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, LB3 said: They attacked him. Did you not see it? Do you need me to post the before and after videos? I’ve been in confrontations before but I’ve never driven 30 minutes with an assault rifle to enter those conflicts. One would think that he was looking for trouble and not “good trouble.” 1
Brennan Huff Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 All I know is I would not want to be a cop in today’s society 1
NoSaint Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I posted this down in the dungeon. It is an interesting thread from an ex-army guy who is a LEO. not to be rude but it’s not particularly interesting. this one I have been slow to condemn as I haven’t had time to deep dive the nuance of it and still looks to be thin on facts so I don’t feel the need to rush but ultimately your thread comes down to this question: are you comfortable with officers shooting to kill anytime they perceive that someone could be reaching towards a weapon? think long and hard about whether in a nervous state or after a couple drinks you might clumsily reach to grab something proactively? While thinking about it, also consider that some people are a lot more likely to be considered a threat when making the same flub because of reasons other than their behavior. wonder about whether a 35 year old white woman walking away from police is likely to be shot here, as opposed to the black man that just was. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 I am not asking this sarcastically but seriously about where the line is for a cop to shoot. It seems some on here think that unless the person is an immediate threat then they should not be shot with almost no exceptions. If this were to be the policy wouldn't the criminals know that cops can't shoot unless they have a weapon and just outrun cops? In California they know that they will not be pursued for less than $500 and petty theft jumped. I want less shootings from cops also but I don't think your policy is proper
LB3 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I’ve been in confrontations before but I’ve never driven 30 minutes with an assault rifle to enter those conflicts. One would think that he was looking for trouble and not “good trouble.” He was absolutely looking to do something. I'm guessing it didn't include killing someone. I would assume he thought the rifle would scare people. It didn't, obviously. "Protesters" travel great distances to "protest". Not just good "protest". The 17 year old is masked up in the green. The head shot guy is dropping the n word asking to get shot. NSFW
NoSaint Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: These guys are paid to play. When they are refusing to play based on events happening that have NOTHING to do with the job they are being paid for...they are wrong and are not living up to the contract that they signed. and sometimes, call me crazy, but that’s ok. 1
GoBills808 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I am not asking this sarcastically but seriously about where the line is for a cop to shoot. It seems some on here think that unless the person is an immediate threat then they should not be shot with almost no exceptions. If this were to be the policy wouldn't the criminals know that cops can't shoot unless they have a weapon and just outrun cops? In California they know that they will not be pursued for less than $500 and petty theft jumped. I want less shootings from cops also but I don't think your policy is proper You think the police should be able to shoot someone because they can't run faster than him? 1
NoSaint Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I am not asking this sarcastically but seriously about where the line is for a cop to shoot. It seems some on here think that unless the person is an immediate threat then they should not be shot with almost no exceptions. If this were to be the policy wouldn't the criminals know that cops can't shoot unless they have a weapon and just outrun cops? In California they know that they will not be pursued for less than $500 and petty theft jumped. I want less shootings from cops also but I don't think your policy is proper yes. unless they are an immediate threat I do not believe they should be shot. I think there are very few if any exceptions. I accept that more may get away, and other crimes may be committed as a result. That does not change the opinion. do you think that simply running away should be cause to shoot? 2
LB3 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: yes. unless they are an immediate threat I do not believe they should be shot. I think there are very few if any exceptions. I accept that more may get away, and other crimes may be committed as a result. That does not change the opinion. do you think that simply running away should be cause to shoot? Bingo. Innocent people should be an afterthought to scumbag criminals. That's the disconnect.
JoPoy88 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, LB3 said: I guess you haven't seen the videos. A low information supporter. I'm not surprised. Ok then link them magaman. I’ve seen a number of videos but maybe the ones I saw weren’t hannity approved
Logic Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 I just wanted to say that it is so gross and sad and disappointing and nauseating and infuriating that so many people still don't recognize the very real problem of systemic racism in this country in general, and police brutality against people of color in particular. Anyone who says it's not a real problem only has the luxury of feeling that way because they have the privilege of not having to confront it every time they leave the house. You don't see racism and police brutality as problems because you have the PRIVILEGE of ignoring the prevalence of them and the dangers they pose. It's that simple. That's all. I'm honestly not interested in debating the existence of systemic racism and police brutality in our country, because I recognize that both are FACTS OF LIFE in America in 2020. There's no sense in debating the existence of something that is very clearly real. It is so exhausting and so disheartening to see this stuff again and again and again, and to know that nothing is changing, that nothing is improving. It is so exhausting and so disheartening to see people explain away the violent and unlawful actions of the police simply because "the person they murdered deserved it because he was a petty criminal!". As if whatever crime the person committed entitles the police to murder them in cold blood. It is so exhausting and disheartening to see that the men who killed Breonna Taylor -- who was in her own home, asleep in her bed, committing no crimes -- are still policemen. It is so disheartening and exhausting to see people defend them, defend other murderous police officers, defend vigilante lunatics with guns and LARP costumes and justice fantasies. It is so disheartening and exhausting to see so many people be more upset that they don't get to watch their precious sports game than they are that people of color keep getting murdered by armed agents of the state with impunity. I'm this exhausted and this disheartened, and I'm only a spectator. I'm not a person of color, living this truth and this danger every day of my life. Imagine how exhausting and disheartening and terrifying it must be for THEM? My heart hurts, seeing this stuff again and again. I don't know what else to say. We can do better. We can be better. If not now, when? 2 3 1
LB3 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, JoPoy88 said: Ok then link them magaman. I’ve seen a number of videos but maybe the ones I saw weren’t hannity approved ☝️
NoSaint Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, LB3 said: Bingo. Innocent people should be an afterthought to scumbag criminals. That's the disconnect. If that’s your takeaway to saying we shouldn’t shoot people for running away than I’ll echo previous sentiments that you are a bad person. And I’ll consider that being nice to you based on what I really think of responses like that. 3 2
JoPoy88 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, LB3 said: I guess you haven't seen the videos. A low information supporter. I'm not surprised. Supporter of what? Not getting shot by a cowardly little brainwashed white kid? Yes I am a supporter of that. “Low information” allegations coming from a card carrying smooth brained chud who thinks all news is fake. Irony man. 1
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