Fish will have 13K fans for opener v. Bills

[BUFFALOTONE]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

So, NYS protective measures helped them get to the other side.....but it's no a model that other states could use (MONTHS later) to prevent getting slammed? 

 

That's not a very persuasive argument.

 

 

Jackson Memorial again halted elective surgery on July 6th; many other South Florida hospitals followed suit.  This, as in NYS, resulted in massive losses (twice) to hospitals--hence the layoffs.  Up in Rochester, we have been back to an elective schedule for 3 months and are at over 100% precovid case numbers---yet still the hospital system has not brought back all the furloughed workers.

 

Florida did not "shut down as much as anyone" (seriously?).  In fact, your fearless leader, as cases really started their massive summer rise in June proudly proclaimed that they were not shutting down--that this was just a "blip" due to "more testing" (ignoring the increase in positive rate of course).  He plowed on with the reopening despite the incidence increasing, famously crowing about his "safe, smart, step by step" reopening plan.  As the numbers trended up and up he said: "we are not shutting down...we are not rolling back."

Soon Florida was seeing 10-15,00 cases per day.  He did ban alcohol in bars again.  But restaurants, beaches, stores, etc were open while the numbers went through the roof.

 

In late Spring, NYC had seen a decrease in daily deaths to under 100.  As Summer began, and as Florida was entering a massive increase in cases and deaths, NYC remained flat--at under 30 a day--where is remains.  Contrast that to what was allowed to happen in Florida this Summer--and it's predictably bad outcome.

 

Protected the most vulnerable....how?  The disease is spreading through the younger positives, who, taking their governor's lead, have done whatever they pleased this summer.  The vast majority of deaths occurred after July 5th.  Who were those patients dying?  The "younger demographic"?  Obviously not.  It was "the most vulnerable".

 

All preventable.

 

 

Your breath must smell terrible with all of the BS you just spewed. Jackson Memorial is the largest hospital in MDC. They used this hospital for Covid treatment and housing and used the other parts of JMH for surgeries and emergency issues. It’s a massive hospital system not just one. Stop reading one article and thinking you have the answer...as far as you trashing DeSantis I could honestly care less but IMO he’s done a decent job. No one is afraid to get outside and things are under control and headed in the right direction. Its as if you want the death and destruction. 

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

Your breath must smell terrible with all of the BS you just spewed. Jackson Memorial is the largest hospital in MDC. They used this hospital for Covid treatment and housing and used the other parts of JMH for surgeries and emergency issues. It’s a massive hospital system not just one. Stop reading one article and thinking you have the answer...as far as you trashing DeSantis I could honestly care less but IMO he’s done a decent job. No one is afraid to get outside and things are under control and headed in the right direction. Its as if you want the death and destruction. 

 

“Miami-Dade, which has confirmed more cases than any other county in the state, Jackson Health System said it would cancel all nonemergency surgeries starting July 6. The number of COVID-19 patients across Jackson Health's hospitals in North Miami Beach, Miami and South Miami-Dade have doubled over the past two weeks.”

 

All Jackson Heath hospitals. Including Jackson Memorial, which canceled its schedule as well.

 

You really have no idea what you’re taking about

[TBBills]

So these tickets will have time stamps on them and you must be at the entrance at that time to be allowed to enter the stadium.

 

[RoyBatty is alive]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

“Miami-Dade, which has confirmed more cases than any other county in the state, Jackson Health System said it would cancel all nonemergency surgeries starting July 6. The number of COVID-19 patients across Jackson Health's hospitals in North Miami Beach, Miami and South Miami-Dade have doubled over the past two weeks.”

 

All Jackson Heath hospitals. Including Jackson Memorial, which canceled its schedule as well.

 

You really have no idea what you’re taking about

 

Maybe you should actually look up a source of info that isnt almost two months old, like near the peak of the problem in Florida but hey, i get your agenda.

[Mr. WEO]

13 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

Maybe you should actually look up a source of info that isnt almost two months old, like near the peak of the problem in Florida but hey, i get your agenda.

I know you’re late to the discussion but you should read the previous posts before you bust in and look the fool.  
 

 

But you “hey Florida is doing great” guys don’t have an agenda lol. 

[BUFFALOTONE]

22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

“Miami-Dade, which has confirmed more cases than any other county in the state, Jackson Health System said it would cancel all nonemergency surgeries starting July 6. The number of COVID-19 patients across Jackson Health's hospitals in North Miami Beach, Miami and South Miami-Dade have doubled over the past two weeks.”

 

All Jackson Heath hospitals. Including Jackson Memorial, which canceled its schedule as well.

 

You really have no idea what you’re taking about

Procedures not requiring overnight hospital stays never stopped, but keep thinking you know everything. 

[Greg S]

https://nypost.com/2020/08/24/nfl-fans-2020-which-teams-will-allow-people-in-stadiums/

[MJS]

7 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Hey Champ.  I live here, sorry if you believe DeSantis.  Even if you do that is 650 people that would catch it and pass it along.  Well done for what a Football Game in week 2?

 

6 hours ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

Have a good day Champ. 

 

6 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Assumption is that you think I voted for him Champ.  

 

I never knew we had so many champs.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

Procedures not requiring overnight hospital stays never stopped, but keep thinking you know everything. 

 

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article244961085.html

 

The July elective surgery shutdown was the second for these hospitals (and voluntary).  Only in the last week have they resumed elective cases.

 

As already discussed:

 

"South Florida hospitals voluntarily halted non-emergency surgeries in July, after a June COVID surge boiled over and far exceeded the peaks the healthcare facilities saw in the spring. They did it to ensure space to treat patients and conserve personal protective equipment, such as gowns and masks. But the decision was a blow to hospitals’ finances.

 

 

“Our hospitals have still not made up the losses they incurred from March 20 to May 4,” he said, during a press conference Aug. 13 to call attention to the lack of funds received by Florida hospitals through the federal Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security or CARES Act, which set aside more than $175 billion for hospitals and other healthcare providers.

Senior said that members of the Safety Net Hospital Alliance, including Memorial Healthcare and Miami-Dade’s Jackson Health System, are likely to lose more than $1.5 billion in revenues when combining the two periods of canceled surgeries."

 

None of the many articles reporting on this have said that all outpatient elective cases proceeded as pre-covid ("never stopped").

 

Link?

 

 

[nucci]

43 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

 

 

I never knew we had so many champs.

Buffalo, city of...

[LABILLBACKER]

8 hours ago, matter2003 said:

10K will be Bills fans

That's probably pretty accurate...

[Meatloaf63]

8 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Hey Champ.  I live here, sorry if you believe DeSantis.  Even if you do that is 650 people that would catch it and pass it along.  Well done for what a Football Game in week 2?

No it’s not, that’s a sample of the number of people tested not the entire population of the state. Since mostly only people who think they are sick our exposed generally get tested, that will skew the true infection rate. Since the beginning of Covid Florida has not reached 4% of its people infected if you add them all up. But go ahead and keep being chicken little of a virus that has a over 99%survivability rate?

[Meatloaf63]

3 hours ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

Your breath must smell terrible with all of the BS you just spewed. Jackson Memorial is the largest hospital in MDC. They used this hospital for Covid treatment and housing and used the other parts of JMH for surgeries and emergency issues. It’s a massive hospital system not just one. Stop reading one article and thinking you have the answer...as far as you trashing DeSantis I could honestly care less but IMO he’s done a decent job. No one is afraid to get outside and things are under control and headed in the right direction. Its as if you want the death and destruction. 

These losers think NY has done such a great job, the truth is they did such a terrible job in the beginning they got at least 20% of the state infected. Once the infection reaches this many people it slows down, look at Sweden , hell look at Florida now. It doesn’t go away and that’s not herd immunity levels, but in almost every case around 20% is the magic number. Nobody has figured out for how many that have been tested how many others were infected without being tested, but surely this is what happened. 
Florida at one point closed 3/5ths of their ICU beds because they were so slow, the media would have you believe the state was about to collapse from everyone being infected, the truth of the matter is less than 3% of Floridians have tested positive and nobody knows the true infection level. But at least the state is not billions in debt and going further down due to a egomaniac dictator ruining the state like in New York.

[Mr. WEO]

11 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:

These losers think NY has done such a great job, the truth is they did such a terrible job in the beginning they got at least 20% of the state infected. Once the infection reaches this many people it slows down, look at Sweden , hell look at Florida now. It doesn’t go away and that’s not herd immunity levels, but in almost every case around 20% is the magic number. Nobody has figured out for how many that have been tested how many others were infected without being tested, but surely this is what happened. 
Florida at one point closed 3/5ths of their ICU beds because they were so slow, the media would have you believe the state was about to collapse from everyone being infected, the truth of the matter is less than 3% of Floridians have tested positive and nobody knows the true infection level. But at least the state is not billions in debt and going further down due to a egomaniac dictator ruining the state like in New York.

 

 

LOL, wtf?? 

 

Do you know how many people live in NYS?  Do you known anyone who can calculate what 20% of that number is?

 

And:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/11/florida-governor-ron-desantis-interview-393913

 

"The state Agency for Health Care Administration last week estimated that the coronavirus response would lead to a $1.6 billion overrun of a $31.3 billion Medicaid spending plan that took effect July 1. The joint state Legislative Budget Commission must approve any increase in Medicaid spending.

 

The more than $4 billion sent to the state by Congress under the CARES Act so far is needed to balance the state’s budget and close a $2 billion gap in lost tax collections, he said.

DeSantis said he’s exploring the possibility of a loan from the U.S. Department of Labor that could be used to extend jobless benefits that were cut off due to the impasse in Washington."

[Logic]

7 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

Jocularity, jocularity.

 

Now piss off.

Lighten up, Marcus.

[Mark Vader]

24 minutes ago, Logic said:

Lighten up, Marcus.

I could say the same to you.

[Augie]

11 hours ago, eball said:

...so it will basically be their normal home crowd.

 

 

.....but only because it’s the home opener. They will be back into the Jags attendance neighborhood by the next home game. 

[Jamie Nails]

Did the Bills really say until further notice or is that just the interpretation in the Post article from the July Cuomo order prohibiting fans at games in New York?

[RoyBatty is alive]

16 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

I know you’re late to the discussion but you should read the previous posts before you bust in and look the fool.  
 

 

But you “hey Florida is doing great” guys don’t have an agenda lol. 

 

You are wrong and simply cant admit it.

 

You are quoting this from almost two months ago, near the peak of the Florida Covid problems.

 

No one said Florida is doing "great", they said Florida is improving and Florida has done much better than New York State.  Simple facts, either you can accept reality or not, I dont care either way.

[Mr. WEO]

13 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

You are wrong and simply cant admit it.

 

You are quoting this from almost two months ago, near the peak of the Florida Covid problems.

 

No one said Florida is doing "great", they said Florida is improving and Florida has done much better than New York State.  Simple facts, either you can accept reality or not, I dont care either way.

 

 

 

I quoted the article that proved that that particular hospital chain for the second time (since COVID) stopped doing elective surgery.  This, as I also pointed out, led to huge financial losses for the hospital which led to the laying off of staff at Jackson Memorial--the hospital the poster was talking about. 

 

To recap for you: hospital stops elective surgery.  Hospital suffers massive financial losses.  Hospital lays off workers.  Hospital has fewer workers.  See?

 

 

It's a 2 month old article ......because that's when they announced they were again not doing elective surgery because of of Florida COVID.  Only in the past week have they restarted (which I also stated). You want a more recent article about an event that happened in the beginning of July?   The poster said that outpatient surgery never stopped at that hospital.  Every article at that time says otherwise.

 

What is the hard part?