KD in CA Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Your stats are a bit all over the place but in general spot on. The really important graph is the one from the CDC showing the deaths by age group. We now KNOW that if you are under 65 you have very very little chance of dying from Covid 19. And, just as importantly, it’s a condition that you get over. It’s not like cancer, heart disease, or other chronic ailments. Yup. Here are the two charts from CDC that make this point clear. But let's keep feigning shock at how college kids don't take this seriously. p.s. I have found the CDC site maddeningly difficult to navigate and find useful data, but this page (seems more recent) is very helpful. https://www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/index.html#demographics Edited August 23, 2020 by KD in CA more content! 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 4 hours ago, bilzfancy said: So we should shut down the country, and not leave the house till the virus disappears? That's what Biden wants to do. Feel free to do so, but some of us want to just live our lives as normal as possible. you are missing the point completely the man in the WH declared it a little flu and his flock still believes it is not serious. 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: you are missing the point completely the man in the WH declared it a little flu and his flock still believes it is not serious. Trump shut down the flights from China while Dems called him a racist. To people under 45 this thing is similar to flu. The Orlando Sentinel had a big headline today about how the rate of younger deaths had accelerated over the past 60 days in the four central counties. The total deaths is 24 for all people under 45 for the entire area in that time frame. As for the death rate of those under 25, the flu is much more deadly than Covid. 1 2
RiotAct Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: you are missing the point completely the man in the WH declared it a little flu and his flock still believes it is not serious. who’s “his flock”? Please provide specifics. 1
snafu Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: you are missing the point completely the man in the WH declared it a little flu and his flock still believes it is not serious. You’re focusing on the WH, whereas each state has run its own show — some have done well and others haven’t. Keeping the focus on things said and done six months ago by any politician isn’t helping anything now. I’m sure examples could easily be found where a public official downplayed the virus in February and in March. It wasn’t just the President. I’m also sure that a lot of politicians have instituted and maintained draconian shutdowns. What of their “flocks” who agree with continuing full shutdowns? How did we get from “flatten the curve” to “nobody is allowed to get sick”? This was the problem from the beginning: it is easy enough to shut down, but who wants to be the politician that opens up and exposes people to illness? 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 When ever has 170 THOUSAND Americans deaths ever been acceptable? The longer the ignorance the longer business will suffer. 29 minutes ago, snafu said: You’re focusing on the WH, whereas each state has run its own show — some have done well and others haven’t. Keeping the focus on things said and done six months ago by any politician isn’t helping anything now. I’m sure examples could easily be found where a public official downplayed the virus in February and in March. It wasn’t just the President. is it now? if only The Don could make up his mind. It’s up to the States or it isn’t Republican states get aid. Democratic states can suffer. 1 1
snafu Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: When ever has 170 THOUSAND Americans deaths ever been acceptable? The longer the ignorance the longer business will suffer. is it now? if only The Don could make up his mind. It’s up to the States or it isn’t Republican states get aid. Democratic states can suffer. I never said deaths from Covid are acceptable, but they were inevitable. I never said Trump is blameless. I did say that there’s blame to go around. If you want to focus solely on Trump, that’s up to you. Don’t make me focus solely on him, because I see that as very myopic. Do you want the incompetent liar to run things or not? And tell Cuomo and Newsom how their states didn’t get aid. Were they unduly forced to publicly and repeatedly thank the President for assisting them? Try not to revise history. Edited August 23, 2020 by snafu 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, snafu said: never said deaths from Covid are acceptable, but they were inevitable. it is what it is? it could have been a lot less severe had action been taken in February and March. Had The Don said buckle up we are in for a ride and not wait for some miracle. 1
Taro T Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 59 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: When ever has 170 THOUSAND Americans deaths ever been acceptable? The longer the ignorance the longer business will suffer. is it now? if only The Don could make up his mind. It’s up to the States or it isn’t Republican states get aid. Democratic states can suffer. Umm, if we ever get annual deaths from heart disease down or cancer to under 200,000 we should be holding a giant celebration. More than 3 times that die each year from each cause. 2
dubs Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: When ever has 170 THOUSAND Americans deaths ever been acceptable? you’re an idiot
Doc Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: When ever has 170 THOUSAND Americans deaths ever been acceptable? Well, it's not 2.2 MILLION... Edited August 23, 2020 by Doc 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, dubs said: you’re an idiot and you are a moron. 1
snafu Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: it is what it is? it could have been a lot less severe had action been taken in February and March. Had The Don said buckle up we are in for a ride and not wait for some miracle. You need to make up your mind about whether you think everyone should pay attention to Trump or ignore him because he’s a joke. You can’t have it both ways. Frankly, I don’t pay much attention to what he says, especially about a NOVEL Coronavirus. First he downplayed it, then he said 100,000 — 240,000 would die and that would be a “good” outcome, based on projections. And the only point I’m trying to get you to see is that Trump wasn’t the only one downplaying the seriousness of the virus in February and March. If you can’t acknowledge that, then you’re being dishonest.
Niagara Bill Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Trump shut down the flights from China while Dems called him a racist. To people under 45 this thing is similar to flu. The Orlando Sentinel had a big headline today about how the rate of younger deaths had accelerated over the past 60 days in the four central counties. The total deaths is 24 for all people under 45 for the entire area in that time frame. As for the death rate of those under 25, the flu is much more deadly than Covid. Trump did shtt. He was up and down took control, gave up control, had ventilators then passed that off, had experts then hid them, love CDC then discounted them, loved mask, then discounted masks...his country was burning...no is burning and he plays political games. Non stop. His leadership has been non existent...he is focused on election, period. 170,000 deaths, 250,000 deaths or 500,000 deaths are casualties of the political war. IMHO. 170 000 deaths and he finds time to redicle New Zealand for extending their election for 4 weeks. Wow... Please Donald concentrate on leading for the sake of you people. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Trump did shtt. He was up and down took control, gave up control, had ventilators then passed that off, had experts then hid them, love CDC then discounted them, loved mask, then discounted masks...his country was burning...no is burning and he plays political games. Non stop. His leadership has been non existent...he is focused on election, period. 170,000 deaths, 250,000 deaths or 500,000 deaths are casualties of the political war. IMHO. 170 000 deaths and he finds time to redicle New Zealand for extending their election for 4 weeks. Wow... Please Donald concentrate on leading for the sake of you people. Niagara you seem to feel that it is Trump's fault NY, NJ, and CA did not handle things well. Those three states represent over 1/3 of total Covid deaths despite being less than 20% of the population. In fact the math shows that per person the only red state in top 7 is LA. The rest of the top states are as blue as they come, so it must have been all the blue states doing as Trump told them while the red states were dying. Or more likely you are ignorant of what really happened and "orange man bad" is your only response. 2
Doc Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 I can just as easily claim that it would have been worse under Hilly because nothing would have changed except for her delaying the travel ban.
bilzfancy Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 Just now, Doc said: I can just as easily claim that it would have been worse under Hilly because nothing would have changed except for her delaying the travel ban. The economy would have been far worse under her, or Biden
Q-baby! Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Niagara you seem to feel that it is Trump's fault NY, NJ, and CA did not handle things well. Those three states represent over 1/3 of total Covid deaths despite being less than 20% of the population. In fact the math shows that per person the only red state in top 7 is LA. The rest of the top states are as blue as they come, so it must have been all the blue states doing as Trump told them while the red states were dying. Or more likely you are ignorant of what really happened and "orange man bad" is your only response. Trump was too worried about the stock market and pretended that it was no big deal and told everyone it was no big deal. Huge mistake. Can you image all you ***** ######s if the exact same thing happened and it was Obama who ***** up LARGE! You clowns would hold circle jerks and discuss and drop loads in each other in glee.
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