Mango Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 6 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Here’s something that’s crossed my mind many times. We have NFL Network, Yankees Network, etc. Would any of you pay for a subscription to gain access to a huge library of games, podcasts, interviews, and shows from NY’s only football team? I would in a heart beat. Just bring back Empire.
Sig1Hunter Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: You don't want people just faceless names on a page? So do you ever share your opinions? Presumably you do. But they shouldn't be allowed to share theirs because they have a heightened platform? 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: You don't want people just faceless names on a page? So do you ever share your opinions? Presumably you do. But they shouldn't be allowed to share theirs because they have a heightened platform? I cant discuss my political/personal views in my workplace, while using the benefits of that workplace as a megaphone. Also, they can choose to share them on the teams dime. And, I can choose to tune out. Does my freedom to spend my resources as I choose offend you? Edited August 23, 2020 by Sig1Hunter
GunnerBill Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: I cant discuss my political/personal views in my workplace, while using the benefits of that workplace as a megaphone. Also, they can choose to share them on the teams dime. And, I can choose to tune out. Does my freedom to spend my resources as I choose offend you? No but you have to grant them the same right. Just because their workplace offers a platform and an opportunity that you don't have should not deter them from using it. Otherwise what you are doing is saying because you are in a form of entertainment it restricts your other rights in case the audience for that entertainment agrees with you. We don't all have equal platforms. But we do all have equal right to use them.
Sig1Hunter Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No but you have to grant them the same right. Just because their workplace offers a platform and an opportunity that you don't have should not deter them from using it. Otherwise what you are doing is saying because you are in a form of entertainment it restricts your other rights in case the audience for that entertainment agrees with you. We don't all have equal platforms. But we do all have equal right to use them. How am I restricting them? By saying I disagree, and therefore choosing to not spend money on the product that is espousing a message that I disagree with?
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: If they showed every game, sure They can't...
SCBills Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Beast said: I know I will get slaughtered here for saying this but I am really struggling with should I watch or not. I did my career in Law Enforcement and I really don't want to tune in to have the NFL tell me I'm a scumbag. I don’t blame you at all. I’m someone who is fine with athletes speaking up, I understand the kneeling and truly appreciate “some” of the activism going on in the NBA Bubble. That said, the networks, specifically ESPN, took it way too far.. To the point where, even I, started tuning out. They’ve toned it down a lot recently, but still, when the announcer in the Rockets/Thunder game right now randomly goes on a Breonna Taylor rant, I’m kind of over it... even if I think we need to examine no-knock warrants and understand the anger behind what happened. When they start losing people like myself, I can’t imagine what someone who’s in law enforcement must feel like. Edited August 23, 2020 by SCBills 2
JoPoy88 Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 7 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Here’s something that’s crossed my mind many times. We have NFL Network, Yankees Network, etc. Would any of you pay for a subscription to gain access to a huge library of games, podcasts, interviews, and shows from NY’s only football team? I would in a heart beat. lol no. NFLN, Yes, SNY etc. have rights to broadcast LIVE GAMES. Any “bills network” would not. Unless you think the networks would just happily allow some team-owned dinky startup to simulcast games out of the goodness of their hearts after shelling out dump trucks of cash to the league for rights. And sorry I’m not much for pointless nostalgia; I don’t need to watch the comeback game 400 times.
4_kidd_4 Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 Youse guys wanna gripe about the “woke” generation, welp, that’s the key demographic for all of these pro sports. They don’t care about cranky cops tuning out, and it ain’t even about the politics. It’s allllll about marketing and that sweet sweet cash. You think the main PR/marketing depts for these leagues haven’t weighed pros/cons from every angle and determined what percentage of viewers(read: consumers/spenders) they can afford to lose vs. the ones they will keep? And they’ve certainly factored in that a 20-something has 40+ more years of spending on their product vs. a 60-something who’s got maybe half of that left. My unsolicited advice? It only bothers you if you let it. So watch the game and enjoy the football, and know that the only “cause” the NFL cares about is the dollar. Oh, sorry OP. Put me down for a “no”. I ain’t payin for a Bills Network.
Tierlifer Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 I’ll just YouTube some old Empire Sports Network clips instead.
loyal2dagame Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 To answer the topic: No. There's this thing called the interweb...... From what I'm told, you can find anything you want....
NoSaint Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 7 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Here’s something that’s crossed my mind many times. We have NFL Network, Yankees Network, etc. Would any of you pay for a subscription to gain access to a huge library of games, podcasts, interviews, and shows from NY’s only football team? I would in a heart beat. I think many would consider at the right price. i think unfortunately no matter how big the slice is, the pie will be too small to start with
SCBills Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Youse guys wanna gripe about the “woke” generation, welp, that’s the key demographic for all of these pro sports. They don’t care about cranky cops tuning out, and it ain’t even about the politics. It’s allllll about marketing and that sweet sweet cash. You think the main PR/marketing depts for these leagues haven’t weighed pros/cons from every angle and determined what percentage of viewers(read: consumers/spenders) they can afford to lose vs. the ones they will keep? And they’ve certainly factored in that a 20-something has 40+ more years of spending on their product vs. a 60-something who’s got maybe half of that left. My unsolicited advice? It only bothers you if you let it. So watch the game and enjoy the football, and know that the only “cause” the NFL cares about is the dollar. Oh, sorry OP. Put me down for a “no”. I ain’t payin for a Bills Network. NFL has a different audience than the NBA, and even the NBA has toned the activism down... a lot. Maybe it’s just a coincidence that it coincides with horrible ratings, but I’ve been watching the bubble games, and as soon as that data came out, it’s been noticeably different telecasts.
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 6 hours ago, brianthomas said: even if WE would pay for it (which i wouldnt), there wouldnt be enough other people to fund a Bills Only channel to make it viable or sustain it. We're not the Yankees for instance who can pull upon a much larger audience. We've had local sports networks in the past, but subsidized & paid for by Adelphia Communications. Now if PSE wanted to spend some of that oil money on a network, they very well could do that. However outside of them, I don't see it as possible. In todays day & age it'd be easier to have a Bills Network channel on Youtube. If that ever became popular enough to warrant something more substantial then so be it. Right now the market for live sports appears to be tanking. So I think your point about it not being viable is not just correct now but forever unless the Sunday ticket comes with it
NoSaint Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sig1Hunter said: How am I restricting them? By saying I disagree, and therefore choosing to not spend money on the product that is espousing a message that I disagree with? Honestly, more power to you. Even if I think it’s dumb, I think you are well within your rights!
SCBills Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 I upgraded for ACC Network, even though Syracuse is wildly mediocre so it’s nonstop Clemson Football and UNC/Duke Basketball content, so, I’m quite confident I’d pay up for a Bills network - especially since I’m actually high on the future of our team. We also have a strong culture and like-able personalities. That leads to some good network content.
Marv's Neighbor Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 Lived in Seattle 86-03. Had Direct TV, and for an extra $5 a month I bought a sports package that was the old Empire Sports Network. Had it to watch the Sabres. At that time, Direct TV also had "local" Vancouver stations, including CBC, for even more hockey. So, yes I would consider paying for an equivalent product, assuming S Virginia availability.
GunnerBill Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said: How am I restricting them? By saying I disagree, and therefore choosing to not spend money on the product that is espousing a message that I disagree with? If that is all you are doing that is your choice. Once you get into "I can't make political statements and my work so they shouldn't make them at theirs" then yes you are seeking to restrict them. If your position is they are free to make whatever statement they like but if they make one I disagree with I will take my business elsewhere then fair enough. Though it feels rather petty.
CodeMonkey Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: Heck YES, I would! I've purchased two antennas for the TV I inherited (I haven't owned a television since I gave away my 13" TV/VCR combo in 2004), and NEITHER of them can pick up channel 8 in Rochester. Channel 8 is 2 miles from my house. It's in the same location as channels 10 and 13, which I get just fine... The only reason I didn't throw out the inherited TV was in the faint, and misguided hope, that someday, I could watch Bills games from my house... I should have expected this... I'm a Bills fan. Anything that can possibly--or and especially impossibly--go wrong, can, and will. Inevitable. That's interesting because I get channel 8 crystal clear but cannot get 10 or 13 at all. It must depend on where we both live and the direction to the antennas. To answer the OP's question. No I would not. Only hard core fans would, and IMO there aren't enough of those to make such a network feasible. Even YES has mainly non yankees stuff, such as Manchester United (I believe or is it Chelsea) premier league soccer games. Plus the existing NFL contracts with TV and DirectTV would preclude such a network broadcasting Bills games live. YES does broadcast Yankees games live. Edited August 23, 2020 by CodeMonkey 1
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