BillsFanNC Posted March 5 Posted March 5 I love when the King shows up, looks down his nose at people while making snide comments that show that it, once again, hasn't the slightest clue of what it's talking about. 1
ChiGoose Posted March 5 Posted March 5 12 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: https://public.substack.com/p/cia-had-foreign-allies-spy-on-trump Receipts to show it was what led to the dossier. And how the Dems approached foreign agents for dirt on the opposition party. Ah yes, unnamed sources to a Substack. That definitely beats investigations, real documents, and testimony. The Steele Dossier was unverified oppo research so unreliable that the Clinton Campaign buried it and got in trouble for doing so. Steele shopped it around but nobody would publish it because nothing in it could be independently verified. Then BuzzFeed did a very stupid thing and published it and we’ve all been worse off for it.
Tommy Callahan Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) The dossier was made and presented by foreign agents paid for by an American political party candidate. FBI used info to get fisa to spy on a CIA asset inserted in the trump team. Even a year later Mueller claimed he investigated it all, and the FBI investigation, and still pushed the lie that the dossier was organic. When did he know? Sussman testimony? If we are doing a history summary And it's still " Russia did it". Edited March 6 by Tommy Callahan
BillStime Posted March 6 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said: The dossier was made and presented by foreign agents paid for by an American political party candidate. FBI used info to get fisa to spy on a CIA asset inserted in the trump team. Even a year later Mueller claimed he investigated it all, and the FBI investigation, and still pushed the lie that the dossier was organic. When did he know? Sussman testimony? If we are doing a history summary And it's still " Russia did it". Durham is laughing at you
ChiGoose Posted March 6 Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: The dossier was made and presented by foreign agents paid for by an American political party candidate. FBI used info to get fisa to spy on a CIA asset inserted in the trump team. Even a year later Mueller claimed he investigated it all, and the FBI investigation, and still pushed the lie that the dossier was organic. When did he know? Sussman testimony? If we are doing a history summary And it's still " Russia did it". Man, you really will believe anything, won’t you? The dossier was trash oppo that fell apart the minute anybody looked into it. Steele thought he was some super spy getting all kinds of info because he was too dumb to realize that he was being fed lies. The pee tape story should have tipped him off. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 6 Posted March 6 6 hours ago, ChiGoose said: I'd say scale and willingness by a campaign to accept interference. As far as I can tell, the IRA is fairly unprecedented. I'm not aware of such an organization playing in a US election at that scale before. The advent of the internet and social media presented an effective opportunity that we hadn't seen before and were definitely not prepared for. In addition to that, the Trump Campaign had an unprecedented willingness to meet with foreign agents promising politically beneficial information. There were dozens of contacts between the campaign and Russian operatives when the normal thing to do would be to report such attempted contacts to law enforcement. Hillary literally paid for the Steele Dossier, which is Russian disinformation, and you think Trump was the new "scale and willingness"? Secondly acceptance of foreign interference is applauded when it is believed to help liberals, such as foreign nationals whom work in Hollywood praise them. 2
ChiGoose Posted March 6 Posted March 6 59 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Hillary literally paid for the Steele Dossier, which is Russian disinformation, and you think Trump was the new "scale and willingness"? Secondly acceptance of foreign interference is applauded when it is believed to help liberals, such as foreign nationals whom work in Hollywood praise them. Hillary paid Fusion GPS for oppo research. When they came up with the Steele dossier, the Clinton campaign attempted to bury it. That is obviously very different than people saying “hey, I work for the Russian government and I want to help you win the election” and the campaign responding with “sounds good!” 1 1
Doc Posted March 6 Posted March 6 8 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Hillary paid Fusion GPS for oppo research. When they came up with the Steele dossier, the Clinton campaign attempted to bury it. That is obviously very different than people saying “hey, I work for the Russian government and I want to help you win the election” and the campaign responding with “sounds good!” They paid for it...and it somehow managed to get out. Spillage, I guess... No one really cares about Don Jr's ill-advised setup, er, meeting with Fusion GPS cohort Veselnitskaya. It was a one-off and no information was obtained. 2
BillsFanNC Posted March 6 Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, Doc said: They paid for it...and it somehow managed to get out. Spillage, I guess... No one really cares about Don Jr's ill-advised setup, er, meeting with Fusion GPS cohort Veselnitskaya. It was a one-off and no information was obtained. Veselnitskaya, who received special permission from Obama AG Lynch to enter the US, then met with Fusion GPS head Glenn Simpson immediately before and after the Trump Tower meeting. This is never mentioned by useful idiots. I wonder why? 1 2
ChiGoose Posted March 6 Posted March 6 31 minutes ago, Doc said: They paid for it...and it somehow managed to get out. Spillage, I guess... No one really cares about Don Jr's ill-advised setup, er, meeting with Fusion GPS cohort Veselnitskaya. It was a one-off and no information was obtained. Already told you how it got out. This is all publicly known stuff. And there were many meetings between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives. I don’t understand the willful ignorance. I guess people would rather be told they are right than actually be right. It’s really kinda sad. 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Ie. Five eyes intelligence got bad data from their Russian intelligence assets. But the FBI and our intelligence ran with it anyways. And old man McCain handing it off to politico. 1
ChiGoose Posted March 6 Posted March 6 11 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Ie. Five eyes intelligence got bad data from their Russian intelligence assets. But the FBI and our intelligence ran with it anyways. And old man McCain handing it off to politico. Do you honestly, truly believe that the *FBI* is in the tank for Democrats? Is that something people actually believe? 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) Based off the actions of the last few years they seem to be an asset of the Dems and the entities they represent. Every day provides more proof Do you still believe the discredited narrative that Russia had an actual impact on the 2016 election? Edited March 6 by Tommy Callahan
ChiGoose Posted March 6 Posted March 6 25 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Based off the actions of the last few years they seem to be an asset of the Dems and the entities they represent. Every day provides more proof Do you still believe the discredited narrative that Russia had an actual impact on the 2016 election? Ahhhhhh. You live in a fantasy world where you've isolated yourself away from reality. That makes sense. I was trying to understand how someone could believe that the FBI, an organization that has always leaned to the political Right, has basically always been headed by a Republican, and whose head in 2016 broke longstanding protocol to denigrate the Clinton campaign in the days leading up to the election (potentially sealing Trump's victory) was actually a tool of the Democrats. Is being gullible a requirement for being conservative these days, or does it just make things easier? 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) Lmao. The king is referencing one statement in 2016 by a discussed liar while ignoring all the biased actions the 8 years since. The fact you don't even see it only shows your sad biases. Sorry . bills time agreeing with that, is kind of proof it's a bunch of BS and way outside the realm of reality. Edited March 6 by Tommy Callahan 1 1
Doc Posted March 6 Posted March 6 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Already told you how it got out. This is all publicly known stuff. And there were many meetings between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives. I don’t understand the willful ignorance. I guess people would rather be told they are right than actually be right. It’s really kinda sad. Right and Clinton and/or the Dems had nothing to do with it leaking. Talk about willful ignorance. 1
BillStime Posted March 6 Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Right and Clinton and/or the Dems had nothing to do with it leaking. Talk about willful ignorance. I thought John McCain leaked it...?
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