Russia Was Not a Democratic Hoax

[Doc]

LOL!  Six years later and some people still believe Russian collusion.  Must have taken them a long time to believe that Santa Claus, the Easter Rabbit and the Tooth Fairy weren't real either...

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

How dare they!!!! 

 

Yes, it was the Dems fault Russia wanted Trump to be president! 

 

🙄

They found Russia wanted Trump to win, and helped him 

Unfortunately, we've seen plenty of reason to view what's passed as an objective Intelligence assessment with a jaundiced eye. From spying on American citizens, selective leaking to influence the opinions of ordinary citizens, unmasking, the withholding of critical information that might better inform citizens on issues of national importance, and massive/huge misses on stories like the Biden laptop, it's in one's best interest to question what is passed as fact.  There was a time, probably, when prominent members of the left knew and warned about that sort of thing, but it seems the suggestion these days is for people to be all in on whatever narrative is being sold.  

 

That said, what the Russians may/may not have wanted is largely irrelevant to the question of whether or not DJT was elected illegitimately, or his election resulted from a coup, or if he committed acts of treason in an effort to get elected.  In that regard, the democrats who spread knowingly false information about the legitimacy of our election in 2015 did more to aid the Russians in any effort to upset out apple cart than any troll farm could possibly hope to achieve.  

 

We know the conclusion of the Special Counsel and AG assessment of it.  This is a matter of record--Trump was a victim of democrat political persecution.   You may not like those facts, but they are the facts nonetheless.  

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Unfortunately, we've seen plenty of reason to view what's passed as an objective Intelligence assessment with a jaundiced eye.  

I don't think so at all. Hard to believe anyone would believe Trump about anything. But looking at his kowtowing To Putin it was obvious to anyone THAT CARED they were at the very least rowing in the same direction. 

 

It's simply self-evident at this point 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

They found Russia wanted Trump to win, and helped him 

You're just flailing away here.  Like a fighter that takes a beating you just don't know when to stay down. 

Edited January 26, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

You're just flailing away here.  Like a fighter that takes a beating you just don't know when to stay down. 

No, actually not. He was tied to Putin, obviously. 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

24 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I don't think so at all. Hard to believe anyone would believe Trump about anything. But looking at his kowtowing To Putin it was obvious to anyone THAT CARED they were at the very least rowing in the same direction. 

 

It's simply self-evident at this point 

“…at least rowing in the same direction” means nothing in the context of the Russian collusion narrative.   With all the time, effort and money that went into tying Trump to treason, these are nickledick words to justify your belief in a disproven narrative.  
 

We know what happened.  We know the democrats spread election disinformation to unseat Trump and scuttle his agenda, and we know you were ok with that.   We know that Biden defeated Trump in 2020, and that Putin launched his invasion a short time later. 
 

These are the facts. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

23 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No, actually not. He was tied to Putin, obviously. 

 

 

That's the fictitious story the resistance continues to peddle but to this point in time there's nothing that shows Trump and Putin have a relationship outside the diplomatic channels used by heads of state from 2017 to 2020.  As Putin does not speak English and Trump does not speak Russian any conversations were attended by other officials and interpreters.  nobody said peep about any irregularities.  Do you think they used secret hand signals over Zoom to collude? 

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

“…at least rowing in the same direction” means nothing in the context of the Russian collusion narrative.   With all the time, effort and money that went into tying Trump to treason, these are nickledick words to justify your belief in a disproven narrative.  
 

We know what happened.  We know the democrats spread election disinformation to unseat Trump and scuttle his agenda, and we know you were ok with that.   We know that Biden defeated Trump in 2020, and that Putin launched his invasion a short time later. 
 

These are the facts. 

Russia wanted Trump to win. That's so obvious. Trump obvioulsy welcomed the help. 

 

People that supported Trump, and still do, also welcomed the help and hope for more. That's why there is this frantic push back against the truth by Trump supporters, and those that lie and say they don't support him 

Just now, All_Pro_Bills said:

That's the fictitious story the resistance continues to peddle but to this point in time there's nothing that shows Trump and Putin have a relationship outside the diplomatic channels used by heads of state from 2017 to 2020.  As Putin does not speak English and Trump does not speak Russian any conversations were attended by other officials and interpreters.  nobody said peep about any irregularities.  Do you think they used secret hand signals over Zoom to collude? 

You mean the meeting where the trasnscripts went mysteriously missing? 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

That's the fictitious story the resistance continues to peddle

 

Ladies and Gentlemen - I present you the 2020 GOP Senate report:

 

SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCEUNITED STATES SENATE ON RUSSIAN ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGNS AND INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016 U.S. ELECTION

[ChiGoose]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

LOL!  Six years later and some people still believe Russian collusion.  Must have taken them a long time to believe that Santa Claus, the Easter Rabbit and the Tooth Fairy weren't real either...

So you don’t believe that Russia tried to interfere in 2016?

 

Or do you not believe the Trump campaign welcomed that help?

[B-Man]

11 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

So you don’t believe that Russia tried to interfere in 2016?

 

Or do you not believe the Trump campaign welcomed that help?

 

 

Russia DID interfere in 2016.

 

Plus in 1956, 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008,2012,  and 2020

 

 

No.

 

Trump did not WELCOME Russian interference.

 

That has been proven again and again (and ignored again and again)

 

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[ChiGoose]

Just now, B-Man said:

 

 

Russia DID interfere in 2016.

 

Plus in 1956, 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008,2012,  and 2020

 

 

No.

 

Trump did not WELCOME Russian interference.

 

That has been proven again and again (and ignored again and again)

 

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The Trump campaign definitely did.
 

That has been proven again and again (and ignored again and again). 

[All_Pro_Bills]

6 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Ladies and Gentlemen - I present you the 2020 GOP Senate report:

 

SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCEUNITED STATES SENATE ON RUSSIAN ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGNS AND INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016 U.S. ELECTION

No technical data on the servers, standard stuff AWS monitors and tracks such as access logs, download logs, IP addresses, firewall and security alerts, user sessions and log in records, etc., has ever been provided to FBI or other law enforcement experts that enabled them to establish definitive proof the DNC was hacked by Russian operatives.   

       

 

 

[BillStime]

15 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

No technical data on the servers, standard stuff AWS monitors and tracks such as access logs, download logs, IP addresses, firewall and security alerts, user sessions and log in records, etc., has ever been provided to FBI or other law enforcement experts that enabled them to establish definitive proof the DNC was hacked by Russian operatives.   

       

 

 

 

I wonder what Flynn was getting at?

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

October 11, 1993, 9:30pm    @ChiGoose walks into a club, surveys the throng of sweating,  heaving danceflesh, and yells to his posse "YOU WON'T EVER SEE ME UP THERE DANCING THAT DAMN MACARENO!  BUNCHA LOSERS!". 

 

6 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

It’s amazing to me that people are still debating this. 
 

If you believe either:

-Russia did not try to influence the 2016 election; or

- The Trump campaign did not attempt to work with Russians to win the election;

 

then you’re just ignorant. It’s not even worth debating because at this point, it’s like arguing with someone who says the sky is green. 

 

 

 

 

October 11, 1993, 9:51pm, Chi Goose...

 

 

2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

So you don’t believe that Russia tried to interfere in 2016?

 

Or do you not believe the Trump campaign welcomed that help?

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

https://dnyuz.com/2023/01/26/barr-pressed-durham-to-find-flaws-in-the-russia-investigation-it-didnt-go-well/

Mr. Trump would repeatedly portray the Mueller report as having found “no collusion with Russia.” The reality was more complex. In fact, the report detailed “numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign,” and it established both how Moscow had worked to help Mr. Trump win and how his campaign had expected to benefit from the foreign interference.

Edited January 26, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Tiberius]

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Hoax from beginning to end commies. But keep living in clown world 

[ChiGoose]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

Hoax from beginning to end commies. But keep living in clown world 

Hey, if they didn’t want to be investigated for trying to work with Russia, they shouldn’t have spent all that time trying to work with Russia. 

[B-Man]

57 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Hey, if they didn’t want to be investigated for trying to work with Russia, they shouldn’t have spent all that time trying to work with Russia. 

 

 

Thanks for the wonderful example of "authentic PPP gibberish"

 

 

 

Reminder:

 

The entire Russian\Trump Collusion kerfuffle has been proven false

 

Multiple times

 

But those who have invested all their efforts and have nothing else

will continue to " cling to" ( a little Barack lingo there)  this hoax.

 

 

 

 

 

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