Mr. WEO Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 17 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Ummmm...Kim needs to spend LESS time on the Sabres! ? Yeah really. Is this thread OP serious with this??
GunnerBill Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, BigdaddyinOrlando said: Kinda get the feeling from hearing Beane y’all over the past few years that he loves the football side of the job and not so much the business side. Seems to really get charged up in running the personnel side and finding talent. Think he is in his happy place doing so! Either way I expect his extension soon and he and Coach to be here for many productive years!! He might enjoy that but his real elite skills are as a leader and organiser.
ghostwriter Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 I do think it would be a good idea for Terry & Kim to ask Mr. Beane for advice on whom to hire and what to look for. He may have valuable insight in that regard. Maybe there’s some universal parallels that could translate over into the hockey world...
Billy Claude Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 I don't think the Pegulas are the kind of owners who think they know more than anyone else. However, with the flat management structure they are forced to intervene pretty much any time there is a dispute between the coach and GM. Luckily for the Pegulas, Beane and McDermott are pretty much on the same page. I am sure there are disagreements but nothing that they can't settle among themselves. I think they are trying to reproduce the Bills' situation in the Sabres, essentially allowing Krueger a large say in who is the new GM just like McDermott did. I am sure they hope that the Sabres runs smoothly enough that they can take a step back and not be so involved.
LB48 Posted August 16, 2020 Author Posted August 16, 2020 21 hours ago, Don Otreply said: It strikes me that there is a group of posters here who can’t bring themselves to understand that Kim owns the damn team, there is only one reason for the continued insistence that she should not be in in charge of her team... time for you boys to get over it. You shine the bright light of misogyny on yourselves. Go Bills!!! Kim owns the team by virtue of her marriage to Terry Pegula. Let Brandon run the operation and keep her on the sidelines! 18 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I was wondering why the Bills would embarrass themselves twice with the all red uniforms. Then I found out it was a woman's decision and it made complete sense. So agree - Kim thought the red uni's looked 'fashionable'.
Don Otreply Posted August 16, 2020 Posted August 16, 2020 LB48, it matters not by what virtue, Kim is the owner. That Billionaire women owns and runs your favorite football team, you may as well get used to it. She is your football sugar momma. Go Bills!!! 1
Malazan Posted August 16, 2020 Posted August 16, 2020 Hey look, it's a solution looking for a problem to solve! 1
boater Posted August 16, 2020 Posted August 16, 2020 Kim haters, a mix of: jealosy sexism racism Most of the savants who say "she has no business running a team" probably view themselves as a better choice. A little lacking in the self awareness department. 1
LB48 Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 10:45 PM, Don Otreply said: LB48, it matters not by what virtue, Kim is the owner. That Billionaire women owns and runs your favorite football team, you may as well get used to it. She is your football sugar momma. Go Bills!!! She owns the team only through her husband.
Don Otreply Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, LB48 said: She owns the team only through her husband. Your repeating yourself so I will as well. It doesn’t matter how she owns the team, she still owns it, and your favorite football team is owned by Kim Pegula, she is everyone’s boss, she okays any and all decisions, she is the Buffalo Bills football fans sugar momma. What she says is law. Every thing SM & BB do has been okayed by her or it doesn’t happen. You should Warm up to it, but then again you can stew in your distress that a Women runs your team, it’s your choice, ?? Go Bills!!!
QCity Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 8:41 AM, Don Otreply said: During her tenure as owner and president nothing has been done to interfere with what can be consider football decisions, so what’s the problem? A make believe fantasy of issues? Scant reasoning at best. There are lots of folk without business degrees successfully running businesses small and large all over the world. So again what’s the problem? Ya need to get over it. Nuthin but luv, Go Bills!!! You’re anti red helmets I take it... ? 19 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Your repeating yourself so I will as well. It doesn’t matter how she owns the team, she still owns it, and your favorite football team is owned by Kim Pegula, she is everyone’s boss, she okays any and all decisions, she is the Buffalo Bills football fans sugar momma. What she says is law. Every thing SM & BB do has been okayed by her or it doesn’t happen. You should Warm up to it, but then again you can stew in your distress that a Women runs your team, it’s your choice, ?? Go Bills!!! It has absolutely nothing to do with sexism and everything to do with having experience. I would be saying the same thing if her husband was in the position. Just because you are rich enough to buy a Ferrari doesn't make it a smart idea to rebuild the engine yourself. You hire qualified, capable people with experience for that. The Pegulas have owned the Sabres longer than the Bills and the team has been a trainwreck under their stewardship -- now going on year 6 of wasting the talents of a superstar player. Kim has turned their front office into a laughing-stock revolving door of hires and fires making it almost impossible to attract any outside, experienced executive talent that wants to work under her (hence the latest internal hire at GM). Of course, this was already pointed out earlier in the thread and dismissed with a "So??" which leads me to believe you don't want to hear about her failures, and in absence of any real accomplishments will fall back on this "sexist" nonsense. 1
Don Otreply Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, QCity said: It has absolutely nothing to do with sexism and everything to do with having experience. I would be saying the same thing if her husband was in the position. Just because you are rich enough to buy a Ferrari doesn't make it a smart idea to rebuild the engine yourself. You hire qualified, capable people with experience for that. The Pegulas have owned the Sabres longer than the Bills and the team has been a trainwreck under their stewardship -- now going on year 6 of wasting the talents of a superstar player. Kim has turned their front office into a laughing-stock revolving door of hires and fires making it almost impossible to attract any outside, experienced executive talent that wants to work under her (hence the latest internal hire at GM). Of course, this was already pointed out earlier in the thread and dismissed with a "So??" which leads me to believe you don't want to hear about her failures, and in absence of any real accomplishments will fall back on this "sexist" nonsense. She owns the team, she gets to do what ever the hell she wants to do with the team. And she is doing a fine job with the Bills, in fact better than most of the men who have filled the job. It is a disingenuous argument.
LB48 Posted August 18, 2020 Author Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, QCity said: It has absolutely nothing to do with sexism and everything to do with having experience. I would be saying the same thing if her husband was in the position. Just because you are rich enough to buy a Ferrari doesn't make it a smart idea to rebuild the engine yourself. You hire qualified, capable people with experience for that. The Pegulas have owned the Sabres longer than the Bills and the team has been a trainwreck under their stewardship -- now going on year 6 of wasting the talents of a superstar player. Kim has turned their front office into a laughing-stock revolving door of hires and fires making it almost impossible to attract any outside, experienced executive talent that wants to work under her (hence the latest internal hire at GM). Of course, this was already pointed out earlier in the thread and dismissed with a "So??" which leads me to believe you don't want to hear about her failures, and in absence of any real accomplishments will fall back on this "sexist" nonsense. Thank you for this very intelligent reply. Kim was going to college and working as a waitress when she met her future husband. He divorced his wife and married Kim. Thus, she became a billionaire and the rest is history. I question her background in football.
LB48 Posted August 18, 2020 Author Posted August 18, 2020 I wrote this post in regards to Brandon Beane. He has 22 years of experience in the NFL. As of now he is the "hottest" property in the NFL to run an organization. He's really more than a GM as compared to the rest of those within NFL teams. PRESIDENT is a sign of his value and not a challenge to the owners of the team. He deserves the title and compensation!!
Doc Posted August 18, 2020 Posted August 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, LB48 said: I wrote this post in regards to Brandon Beane. He has 22 years of experience in the NFL. As of now he is the "hottest" property in the NFL to run an organization. He's really more than a GM as compared to the rest of those within NFL teams. PRESIDENT is a sign of his value and not a challenge to the owners of the team. He deserves the title and compensation!! I doubt he cares about the title or the responsibilities that come with it, and the compensation will come. Leave the Bills side of things alone.
Just Joshin' Posted August 18, 2020 Posted August 18, 2020 If I was the owner I would be President with 3 key reports: GM, Coach and Business/Admin. That does not mean I would run things on a daily basis but set direction and approve the major decisions by my direct reports. If you own the business you need to be leading and involved at a high level.
QCity Posted August 18, 2020 Posted August 18, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 8:41 AM, Don Otreply said: During her tenure as owner and president nothing has been done to interfere with what can be consider football decisions 9 hours ago, Don Otreply said: She owns the team, she gets to do what ever the hell she wants to do with the team. And she is doing a fine job with the Bills, in fact better than most of the men who have filled the job. It is a disingenuous argument. You just admitted she doesn't do anything with regard to football decisions. So beyond the rallying cry of "She owns the team!" and "sexism" feel free to point out her accomplishments after 4 years at the helm combined between 2 franchises -- but I won't hold any grudges if you don't want to do all that typing.
GunnerBill Posted August 18, 2020 Posted August 18, 2020 It is fair to criticise the decisions the Pegulas have made. I have criticised them plenty. But they own the team. We can't fire them. That isn't within our gift. So let's worry less about the who and focus on the what.
machine gun kelly Posted August 18, 2020 Posted August 18, 2020 I don’t understand the rally cry to change something not broken. The Bills are being run very well. This isn’t a Sabres board so points on changes to the Sabres I’m sure is welcome there. Even though I have a family member working for them and this person says nothing but positive things about Kim, changes there does not mean changes to the Bills. Since Kim has more direct responsibility for say to day business operations as marketing, sales, operations, etc., why change a problem that is not there. Teams like Atlanta have a President, McKay, Dimitroff as GM, and so on as there jobs are different. Why pile more responsibility onto Beane when his job is hard enough, amd is doing a great job.
Don Otreply Posted August 18, 2020 Posted August 18, 2020 5 hours ago, QCity said: You just admitted she doesn't do anything with regard to football decisions. So beyond the rallying cry of "She owns the team!" and "sexism" feel free to point out her accomplishments after 4 years at the helm combined between 2 franchises -- but I won't hold any grudges if you don't want to do all that typing. Your just being a knucklehead now.
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