YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2020 Author Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: which is a head scratcher. Hauscha on right hash was horrible but from the middle or the left he was spot on. I made a mental note of it game after game. In a dome with no wind .... proper placement. Tie game. another note. Was it really intentional grounding, or did the Ref's screw the Bills? I didn’t think it was but IG is called maddeningly inconsistently Edited August 14, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, Canadian Bills Fan said: I deserved that.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: I deserved that. It works for both of us. Watching it again felt like a punch in the gut 1
Warcodered Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: which is a head scratcher. Hauscha on right hash was horrible but from the middle or the left he was spot on. I made a mental note of it game after game. In a dome with no wind .... proper placement. Tie game. another note. Was it really intentional grounding, or did the Ref's screw the Bills? I mean they drafted a kicker for a reason I think they were starting to think his leg was losing power. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 58 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Houston Playoff game .. The Bills were on the 42 yard line and in FG range indoors Instead of Trying the attempt .... 4th and 27 call a pass play?. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/1/4/21050009/texans-bills-playoff-win-explained-josh-allen-deshaun-watson "Just like we drew it up.". Man this was painful. 1
ColoradoBills Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 I've been neutral on Daboll so far. He didn't have a lot to work with and a young QB (experience wise) to boot. He's got the talent on the O this year and he game planning/play calling need to make a jump this year. 1
eball Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I've been neutral on Daboll so far. He didn't have a lot to work with and a young QB (experience wise) to boot. He's got the talent on the O this year and he game planning/play calling need to make a jump this year. The offense got better from Y1 to Y2. With a more experienced QB and a couple of new weapons, combined with OL continuity, why shouldn’t we expect further improvement this year? I chuckle at the “we know what Daboll is and he stinks” contingent. I think he has been adequate thus far, but has done a good job developing Allen and deserves the benefit of the doubt going into this season. 3
JESSEFEFFER Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: which is a head scratcher. Hauscha on right hash was horrible but from the middle or the left he was spot on. I made a mental note of it game after game. In a dome with no wind .... proper placement. Tie game. another note. Was it really intentional grounding, or did the Ref's screw the Bills? I have never seen an illegal touching call made in tandem with intentional grounding before. I think there was a common theme where the o-line could not handle the closing plays of a game in the no-huddle situation. Their whiff% went up as did their falling down-off balance,-trip over their own feet- while trying to pass set %. I think they got gassed and could not function normally. Of course TB12 can make a throw and land it outside of 10 yards of his nearest teammate and it's all good. 1
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2020 Author Posted August 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said: I have never seen an illegal touching call made in tandem with intentional grounding before. I think there was a common theme where the o-line could not handle the closing plays of a game in the no-huddle situation. Their whiff% went up as did their falling down-off balance,-trip over their own feet- while trying to pass set %. I think they got gassed and could not function normally. Of course TB12 can make a throw and land it outside of 10 yards of his nearest teammate and it's all good. We will see if the Bucs’ owner sends the pre-game checks to the officiating crew like ol Happy Ending 1
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 From what I remember, motor was having himself a game against the Texans, but daboll just kept on calling passing plays which put Allen in a tough spot. Daboll needs to get much better. No question about it
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 2 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: This is one of those comments that cracks me up. Ive yet to find a fan base that doesnt think their offensive play caller doesnt dial “a number of head scratching plays.” Whether its Josh McDaniels or Sean McVay, its always the same comment. You're probably correct about the average fan base. Unfortunately, Daboll earned some of this criticism with his frequent unsuccessful calls for Frank Gore up the middle on short yardage plays. It is never good when even the fans know what Daboll was going to do on third down when he sent Gore in for the play. If we understood that, don't you think the other teams did too. Fortunately, there was more good than bad with Daboll. He was working with some roster limitations last year that should be better this year. 1
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Except those coaches have a good and proven track record... Daboll doesn't. Oh look, a non sequitur.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Except those coaches have a good and proven track record... Daboll doesn't. we agree. Whoda think it. ?
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Start a poll and lets see who's fault it was. Daboll McDermott Allen O-Line There’s always only one guy to blame ? 1
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: we agree. Whoda think it. ? The statement is factually true, it just has nothing to do with the point I was making.
eball Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Except those coaches have a good and proven track record... Daboll doesn't. The offense was better last year than in 2018...yes or no? 1
Mark Vader Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 2 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Houston Playoff game .. The Bills were on the 42 yard line and in FG range indoors Instead of Trying the attempt .... 4th and 27 call a pass play?. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/1/4/21050009/texans-bills-playoff-win-explained-josh-allen-deshaun-watson Yes, this was painful. However, the big difference in the game to me, and this falls on the coaching staff, was at the end of the first half when the Bills settled for a field goal instead of a touchdown. Remember that last drive in the first half? I believe we started that drive on our own 4 yard line. The offense was moving that ball at a good pace and the Texans defense was having a tough time stopping them. Then when the Bills get a first down with about 1:30 to go in the half, and with 2 timeouts, just outside the Texans 20, the Bills let the clock run. No urgency. I believe they called a running play with Gore gaining maybe 2 yards, letting over 20 seconds run off the clock, then the Bills call time out. Yes, this was the same drive that Duke Williams dropped the touchdown pass in the end zone, but the Bills had an opportunity to do more than try and score on a big play. They kick the field goal and go up 13-0, when they had a real chance of being up 17-0. The Bills had a chance to put the Texans in a big hole at halftime. Not to mention give the Texans defense a real demoralizer by going on a 96 yard touchdown drive before halftime. Whether it was Daboll or McDermott's decision to go with this approach, I see this as a big reason why the Bills lost the game. 1 2
eball Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: However, the big difference in the game to me, and this falls on the coaching staff, was at the end of the first half when the Bills settled for a field goal instead of a touchdown. Remember that last drive in the first half? I believe we started that drive on our own 4 yard line. The offense was moving that ball at a good pace and the Texans defense was having a tough time stopping them. Then when the Bills get a first down with about 1:30 to go in the half, and with 2 timeouts, just outside the Texans 20, the Bills let the clock run. No urgency. I believe they called a running play with Gore gaining maybe 2 yards, letting over 20 seconds run off the clock, then the Bills call time out. Yes, this was the same drive that Duke Williams dropped the touchdown pass in the end zone, but the Bills had an opportunity to do more than try and score on a big play. They kick the field goal and go up 13-0, when they had a real chance of being up 17-0. The Bills had a chance to put the Texans in a big hole at halftime. Not to mention give the Texans defense a real demoralizer by going on a 96 yard touchdown drive before halftime. Whether it was Daboll or McDermott's decision to go with this approach, I see this as a big reason why the Bills lost the game. I can't disagree with any of this. We don't know what was going on over at the Bills' sideline that led to that sequence, but I guess we all hope that they are constantly learning from their mistakes just like everyone else. 1 1 1
iinii Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Yes, this was painful. However, the big difference in the game to me, and this falls on the coaching staff, was at the end of the first half when the Bills settled for a field goal instead of a touchdown. Remember that last drive in the first half? I believe we started that drive on our own 4 yard line. The offense was moving that ball at a good pace and the Texans defense was having a tough time stopping them. Then when the Bills get a first down with about 1:30 to go in the half, and with 2 timeouts, just outside the Texans 20, the Bills let the clock run. No urgency. I believe they called a running play with Gore gaining maybe 2 yards, letting over 20 seconds run off the clock, then the Bills call time out. Yes, this was the same drive that Duke Williams dropped the touchdown pass in the end zone, but the Bills had an opportunity to do more than try and score on a big play. They kick the field goal and go up 13-0, when they had a real chance of being up 17-0. The Bills had a chance to put the Texans in a big hole at halftime. Not to mention give the Texans defense a real demoralizer by going on a 96 yard touchdown drive before halftime. Whether it was Daboll or McDermott's decision to go with this approach, I see this as a big reason why the Bills lost the game. One play and the whole conversation changes. Daboll looks like a (dare I say it?) "master" playcaller, the narrative of McDermott being conservative is quietly ushered aside, and the outcome of the game is possibly altered. 'IT'S A GAME OF INCHES!"
Mark Vader Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, iinii said: One play and the whole conversation changes. Daboll looks like a (dare I say it?) "master" playcaller, the narrative of McDermott being conservative is quietly ushered aside, and the outcome of the game is possibly altered. 'IT'S A GAME OF INCHES!" Yes, but they should not have been in that position. They became complacent and let time run off the clock, and handed the ball off to Gore for a minimal gain, then called time out. Nearly 30 seconds of time was lost during that sequence. The Texans defense was reeling, and the Bills gave them a break.
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