Big Turk Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 This in my mind is a dumb article, because the bottom line is there is no possible way to really know. Yeah, it probably helps to some degree, but this year they are likely good enough for it not to really matter at the end of the day. https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2020/08/11/how-well-cheer-buffalo-bills-games-even-when-we-cant-there-live/3336089001/
BarleyNY Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 Really a moot point at this time. The main impact of crowd noise is making it difficult for visiting teams to call audibles. There is some evidence that home teams gets more calls too. But it’ll be an even playing field this season so no big deal. As for the argument that Bills fans are better/louder than most, it’s generally the bad teams that have less crowd noise and that even picks up if they are competitive in a game. We should beat those teams anyway. A lack of fans at games should have little to no overall impact on the games themselves. 2
MJS Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 It might change the mental state of players. They use the crowd noise to get hyped up sometimes and it helps them play harder. It will be interesting to see if players showboat less. They won't have a crowd to perform to. 2
Big Turk Posted August 11, 2020 Author Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, MJS said: It might change the mental state of players. They use the crowd noise to get hyped up sometimes and it helps them play harder. It will be interesting to see if players showboat less. They won't have a crowd to perform to. Sometimes it leads to them getting out of control because they may get hyped TOO much...with those players it may help bring them under control more...
machine gun kelly Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 Given that eventually all governors are not going to allow fans which is almost certain (not me wanting it just a reality at this point), there won’t be a competitive advantage for any team except maybe the Charger who must have felt like they played 16away games last year. 1
Big Turk Posted August 11, 2020 Author Posted August 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Given that eventually all governors are not going to allow fans which is almost certain (not me wanting it just a reality at this point), there won’t be a competitive advantage for any team except maybe the Charger who must have felt like they played 16away games last year. Hahaha, yeah that is true...I mean what kind of idiot owner moves a team to a city where they literally HATE the team? 1
Jauronimo Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Really a moot point at this time. The main impact of crowd noise is making it difficult for visiting teams to call audibles. There is some evidence that home teams gets more calls too. But it’ll be an even playing field this season so no big deal. As for the argument that Bills fans are better/louder than most, it’s generally the bad teams that have less crowd noise and that even picks up if they are competitive in a game. We should beat those teams anyway. A lack of fans at games should have little to no overall impact on the games themselves. Its not just calling audibles. Its all communication on offense. The huddle, substitutions, the snap count. 1
BarleyNY Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Its not just calling audibles. Its all communication on offense. The huddle, substitutions, the snap count. Yup. Protection calls at the line, etc., etc. can all be an issue. IMO the biggest impact of all of those offensive communications being disrupted is when an offense can’t get out of a play that is a poor call against a defensive look and into a good one though. That’s all I was saying. Didn’t mean to imply that was the only issue. 2
Big Turk Posted August 11, 2020 Author Posted August 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Its not just calling audibles. Its all communication on offense. The huddle, substitutions, the snap count. Forced to do silent snap counts that can lead to false starts also...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 That's it...take 'The 12th Man' off the wall. Flip a coin to see if OJ gets tossed first. ? 1 1
WhoTom Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, MJS said: It might change the mental state of players. They use the crowd noise to get hyped up sometimes and it helps them play harder. Just pump "Renegade" into the stadium - we own that song now. Edited August 11, 2020 by WhoTom 1 1
BullBuchanan Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Sometimes it leads to them getting out of control because they may get hyped TOO much...with those players it may help bring them under control more... "I feel personally attacked" 1
machine gun kelly Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Just pump "Renegade" into the stadium - we own that song now. I was thinking more of pi$&ing off Bon Jovi and playing “Dead or Alive”. I’m sure he’d love that the Toronto lova.
RiotAct Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: That's it...take 'The 12th Man' off the wall. Flip a coin to see if OJ gets tossed first. ? my “Cancel Culture” thread on PPP is about to get even busier! 1
Just Jack Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 With no crowd, will they still use the train horn?
klos63 Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 The atmosphere around the league will stink. I wonder if the NFL could do as well a job as the NHL in keeping some sort of atmosphere at the game. NHL doing a great job with the crowd noise and the visuals at the arena. Besides all that, we lost 4 games at home last season, I know the fans love to praise themselves endlessly, but they don't have as much an impact as many think. The better team usually wins.
2ForMacAdoo Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, klos63 said: The atmosphere around the league will stink. I wonder if the NFL could do as well a job as the NHL in keeping some sort of atmosphere at the game. NHL doing a great job with the crowd noise and the visuals at the arena. Besides all that, we lost 4 games at home last season, I know the fans love to praise themselves endlessly, but they don't have as much an impact as many think. The better team usually wins. The NBA has surpassed all my expectations by pumping fan noise into the arena and wigth the virtual fans "Zooming" in to the games, it has almost had a real "home" game feel. Much, much better than the cardboard cutout fans that I've seen in MLB. Would be awesome if the NFL could do something similar but I haven't heard any word about it. 1
Bubba Gump Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 10 hours ago, MJS said: It might change the mental state of players. They use the crowd noise to get hyped up sometimes and it helps them play harder. It will be interesting to see if players showboat less. They won't have a crowd to perform to. Just ask Jordan Phillips. 1
Fires Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 Only change would be Booing for kneeling.. Me among them..
Nextmanup Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 The upshot is that this year, there will be no home field advantage, to the extent that there is one in the first place. On certain plays, in certain stadiums, at certain points in a game, there is definitely a home field advantage. That won't exist this year. But remember, it is the same for everyone. Watch some of the Stanley Cup playoffs and get a feel for what NFL games are going to look like. It's not the same without a full crowd!
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