Mike in Horseheads Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Same argument was always made when Division I-AA(FCS), II, & III had playoff systems, and the Division I-A(FBS) could not have a playoff system. Its crazy Mark. I'm a Irish fan so I guess no of my bidness but also playing all winter in outside stadiums in the mid west. What about the health and welfare when its below 0 at game time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 4:35 PM, YoloinOhio said: They would be eligible for the playoff but I don’t think it would be 12 game schedule. Probably 10 games plus conf championship The eligible NFL Talent wouldn’t play and why are they the only conferences that can’t play now? Everyone else is moving forward with the “risk” The above is the only intelligent answer to the question that was asked about Spring Football. If I was a player with a real shot at the NFL, why on earth would I play 2 seasons in such a short span? I would also strongly consider switching schools. You know where my college football allegiance lies but I really do hope that Big 10 Fans do not get screwed. Ohio State just might be better than Alabama this season. I don't know but I sure would enjoy watching the two teams compete if it turned out that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: The above is the only intelligent answer to the question that was asked about Spring Football. If I was a player with a real shot at the NFL, why on earth would I play 2 seasons in such a short span? I would also strongly consider switching schools. You know where my college football allegiance lies but I really do hope that Big 10 Fans do not get screwed. Ohio State just might be better than Alabama this season. I don't know but I sure would enjoy watching the two teams compete if it turned out that way. It’s surreal that we aren’t playing and it seems more and more politically motivated with each twist and turn. I’m depressed for real. Ohio state football is a huge part of life for a lot of people most of all those who live here. Sickening. They will play at some point, and we will still watch, but it won’t be the same if they can’t contend for the CFP. This conference leadership is completely inept. Edited September 7, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s surreal that we aren’t playing and it seems more and more politically motivated with each twist and turn. I’m depressed for real. Ohio state football is a huge part of life for a lot of people most of all those who live here. Sickening. They will play at some point, and we will still watch, but it won’t be the same if they can’t contend for the CFP. This conference leadership is completely inept. Yes, it is political, and it's a great example of how much certain radical leaning scumbags care about us. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 2:26 PM, Mike in Horseheads said: Its crazy Mark. I'm a Irish fan so I guess no of my bidness but also playing all winter in outside stadiums in the mid west. What about the health and welfare when its below 0 at game time. Very true, not a peep nor a worry, until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 5:26 PM, Mike in Horseheads said: Its crazy Mark. I'm a Irish fan so I guess no of my bidness but also playing all winter in outside stadiums in the mid west. What about the health and welfare when its below 0 at game time. So the “winter” plan apparently would involve select Midwest nfl domes. Nonetheless it still sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: So the “winter” plan apparently would involve select Midwest nfl domes. Nonetheless it still sucks Where is there any besides Indianapolis and Minneapolis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Where is there any besides Indianapolis and Minneapolis? Detroit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 2:20 PM, billsfan89 said: What is wrong with playing in the spring? I really fail to see what the issue would be in starting a season in March or February. Yes it sucks but is it worth risking college students and their communities health for football at this moment? The NFL has athletes that can be isolated and they have the resources to test daily and create a bubble like atmosphere. Even the biggest college programs have the issue of their athletes having to take classes in person and may lack the ability to create a bubble like atmosphere. Playing in the spring a 2.5 month long season and then start the 2021 season in October to pad out the space between the next season and start 2022 as normal. Absolutely terrible idea to start in the spring, it wont work. You will have every kid that thinks he is going to get drafted opting out plus your going to have your team play in the spring, miss spring practices, & then start up a few months later, want to talk about dangerous. Bottom line here is the Big 10 dropped the ball and they know it. At least in football, your in a controlled environment. It is probably safer than being at home. Now if this whole thing blows up then I will come back here and admit I was wrong. On 9/7/2020 at 8:28 AM, YoloinOhio said: It’s surreal that we aren’t playing and it seems more and more politically motivated with each twist and turn. I’m depressed for real. Ohio state football is a huge part of life for a lot of people most of all those who live here. Sickening. They will play at some point, and we will still watch, but it won’t be the same if they can’t contend for the CFP. This conference leadership is completely inept. From what I have read, OSU is the most talented team in the country this year, yes even more talented than Clemson. It will be a shame if they aren't part of the discussion when it comes to NC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziltoid Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 26,000 COVID positive college kids, 0 hospitalizations. But I bet 1/3 of them may have myocarditis and their hearts will explode if they play a strenuous game of flip cup. Can never really be too safe, I would cancel the 2021 football season now just to be proactively safe. Edited September 8, 2020 by BeerLeagueHockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Gordio said: Absolutely terrible idea to start in the spring, it wont work. You will have every kid that thinks he is going to get drafted opting out plus your going to have your team play in the spring, miss spring practices, & then start up a few months later, want to talk about dangerous. Bottom line here is the Big 10 dropped the ball and they know it. At least in football, your in a controlled environment. It is probably safer than being at home. Now if this whole thing blows up then I will come back here and admit I was wrong. Football in college isn't a controlled environment. NFL teams can kind of sequester their players because their players don't have to go to classes and they have their own housing. College players are often on campuses with general populations that aren't being tested nearly as often and they sleep in dorms that are a breeding ground for the virus. I just don't see how it can be done safely with those conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 5 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Football in college isn't a controlled environment. NFL teams can kind of sequester their players because their players don't have to go to classes and they have their own housing. College players are often on campuses with general populations that aren't being tested nearly as often and they sleep in dorms that are a breeding ground for the virus. I just don't see how it can be done safely with those conditions. sports dorm, zoom classes, private tutoring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 https://www.outkick.com/big-ten-set-to-vote-on-october-return-to-play/ looks like Big 10 to have new vote could begin play Oct 17 and be able to join the playoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, spartacus said: https://www.outkick.com/big-ten-set-to-vote-on-october-return-to-play/ looks like Big 10 to have new vote could begin play Oct 17 and be able to join the playoff They’ve been saying this for FIVE DAYS. it is excruciating!!!!!! Just ***** vote you sloths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Is today the day???? Part 25466754 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) On 9/6/2020 at 6:55 PM, Bill from NYC said: The above is the only intelligent answer to the question that was asked about Spring Football. If I was a player with a real shot at the NFL, why on earth would I play 2 seasons in such a short span? I would also strongly consider switching schools. You know where my college football allegiance lies but I really do hope that Big 10 Fans do not get screwed. Ohio State just might be better than Alabama this season. I don't know but I sure would enjoy watching the two teams compete if it turned out that way. I’m more worried about the kids than I am the fans. Whatever testing system the Big 10 implements better be comprehensive, daily, and foolproof. On 9/8/2020 at 10:19 PM, NoSaint said: sports dorm, zoom classes, private tutoring Zoom labs seems like a good plan for those majoring in a science. Student” athletes, I guess. On 9/8/2020 at 4:33 PM, BeerLeagueHockey said: 26,000 COVID positive college kids, 0 hospitalizations. But I bet 1/3 of them may have myocarditis and their hearts will explode if they play a strenuous game of flip cup. Can never really be too safe, I would cancel the 2021 football season now just to be proactively safe. Apparently hospitalization and death are the only negative consequences of COVID 19 and it is therefore advisable to have student athletes play a game for free and for the benefit of the adults who profit from this endeavor this fall. Unbelievable. Edited September 16, 2020 by SectionC3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 14 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Whatever testing system the Big 10 implements better be comprehensive, daily, and foolproof. "Foolproof?" OK, are you pretending to be unaware of the HUGE numbers of false positives AND false negatives on these tests? Why else would you post something so silly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 38 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: "Foolproof?" OK, are you pretending to be unaware of the HUGE numbers of false positives AND false negatives on these tests? Why else would you post something so silly? Nope. If the tests aren't foolproof, then the kids shouldn't be exposed to risk of permanent health damage. Why would you have posted such a silly response to my prior point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Nope. If the tests aren't foolproof, then the kids shouldn't be exposed to risk of permanent health damage. Why would you have posted such a silly response to my prior point? OK, you are against college football taking place this year under any circumstances. Is this what you meant to say before confabulating? Tell us, are you against the NFL season? And before you pretend that it is all about money, remember that these kids WANT to play in order to make millions in the future. And yes, I know that most college football players will not be rich pros, but this is what they strive for, and have been doing so for most of their lives. Why not get it over with and admit that you are motivated on this issue by politics? PS: I don't know if you care, but many of these players live in poverty stricken, crowded homes. Many are safer playing football than not being at school, wouldn't you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: OK, you are against college football taking place this year under any circumstances. Is this what you meant to say before confabulating? Tell us, are you against the NFL season? And before you pretend that it is all about money, remember that these kids WANT to play in order to make millions in the future. And yes, I know that most college football players will not be rich pros, but this is what they strive for, and have been doing so for most of their lives. Why not get it over with and admit that you are motivated on this issue by politics? PS: I don't know if you care, but many of these players live in poverty stricken, crowded homes. Many are safer playing football than not being at school, wouldn't you say? Paragraph 1. No. Nice try at spinning a lie. I never said that. I'm against kids playing when it is not demonstrably safe to participate in view of COVID-19 concerns. Paragraph 2. No. NFL players are professionals and are paid to assume the risk of participation. "Kids," as you aptly noted in this paragraph, is an appropriate term. The adults in the room, who I note profit from the labor of the "kids" in this context," must make an adult decision and protect the "kids" from themselves and from the caprice of adults. Common sense, not politics, drives this point. I don't believe that "kids" should be exploited so adults can profit handsomely and so that the masses can be entertained. Paragraph 3: Who said that, in the absence of intercollegiate football, these players would be evicted from college housing and return to "poverty stricken, crowded homes?" Only you. Final note: let me know when you're ready to have a discussion not infected by politics, emotion, and, with respect, your lies. I'll be around all day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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