Another Bills reporter trying to make himself the story

[BillsfaninSB]

20 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I shall contemplate whether or no to honour that request

 

 

 

Eh, there's a school of thought that says one should draft a QB every 2 years.  If nothing else, we're going to have tight cap coming up and Barkley's contract is up after this season.  It only makes sense to look for a cheaper replacement.

 

McBeane appears to have gone shopping in FA for the OL

I just don’t think he is beating out Barkley and the Bills only keep 2 QBs.  Best case scenario for Fromm is Practice Squad and someone can scoop him up unless the rules changed this year. 

[ziltoid]

ESPN is the bastion of social justice warrior-ing in sports.  Makes sense.

 

Fromm's career is doomed unless he washes some ESPN feet.

[MJS]

41 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

And the reporter gets to declare that unacceptable because?

Because it's his opinion, I suppose.

[ziltoid]

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

He’s Peterman 2.0..... McDermott loves his Jesus freak QBs..... who can’t play QB...

 

Is he noodle armed too?  Dagnabit.  This is where preseason would help.

 

And honestly I've come full circle on the religion thing.  Whatever gets you through the day is fine with me.

[4merper4mer]

34 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

because Fromm moments earlier was saying that he’s grown and has been doing the work and then immediately tripped over the obvious question he should’ve expected coming for months now?

He was asked to comment on the goings on in the country.  Is he supposed to have "grown" into someone capable of healing society?  

 

How did he trip on the question?  Answer it properly for him.  What could he have said that would have satisfied you?  Why must we all be satisfied by a football player's answers about political climate?  He did answer the question about himself and the follow up was about political climate.

 

If he used the Bill an Ted ' "be excellent to each other" there would probably be less teeth gnashing.  Bring God into it and people get all defensive.  That is their right.  But to declare that someone's thoughts are unacceptable is a bridge too far.

10 minutes ago, MJS said:

Because it's his opinion, I suppose.

 

Having that opinion is fine.  Expressing it as an opinion is also fine.  Declaring it as a fact is wrong.

 

[vincec]

6 hours ago, nucci said:

what if you don't believe in Jesus?

Then he should have said that he doesn’t think the answer is acceptable because he doesn’t believe in Jesus.

 

i wonder how that would have gone... ??

[whatdrought]

19 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

dare i ask: how much time have you spent in real life with folks associated with BLM or around protests etc... 
 

or is most of your experience with this online?

 

i won’t generalize across you, and am genuinely curious. What I’ve tended to see is the further distanced people are from it on a human level the more extreme they tend to think it is. There’s obviously militant factions but generally find in person that if you come of pure heart the ice isn’t all that thin. 

 

I don’t mind the question. I haven’t spent a ton of time with those within the movement myself (except for some interactions with some vocal proponents who may be more on the extreme side.) 

 

I personally struggle to support organizations with Marxist roots, and I have some disagreements with their messaging and some of the narratives they push.

 

That being said, I wholeheartedly believe that black lives matter. But it’s hard to say that and not support the organization and movement BLM in today’s world. 

[4merper4mer]

1 minute ago, whatdrought said:

 

I don’t mind the question. I haven’t spent a ton of time with those within the movement myself (except for some interactions with some vocal proponents who may be more on the extreme side.) 

 

I personally struggle to support organizations with Marxist roots, and I have some disagreements with their messaging and some of the narratives they push.

 

That being said, I wholeheartedly believe that black lives matter. But it’s hard to say that and not support the organization and movement BLM in today’s world. 

 

 

If there was an organization named "Ice Cream is Yummy" and they advocated abolishing banks, would it mean that people who supported banks hate ice cream?

[Doc]

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

what color people do you think he was excluding by including the word white, doc?

 

he made the joke. it had a racial component.

No, I don’t think he keeps a hood in the back of his locker. Yea he probably has some not great stereotypes in the back of his head. No it’s not the end of the world and he’s got a lot of time to learn and grow.

I could assume what color people.  But what I was waiting for at the time those private texts were made public was someone, anyone, of color (doesn’t matter which) to come forward and say that Fromm had treated him/her poorly, much less with racist intent. That never happened. For me, actions speak louder than words. 
 

Is he a closet racist?  I couldn’t tell you. If he is hopefully he’s learned something from this.  That’s all anyone can ask.

 

 

[1ManRaid]

7 hours ago, eball said:

Eh, I think Fromm’s response was questionable also. Why not just say we need to love all people equally? He makes it sound as though the only people capable of this have to be Jesus freaks first. 

Even as an atheist, I have no problem with what he said.

[Mike in Horseheads]

The guy sent some stupid tweets when he was a teenager and this thread has turned into a joke. Is it so ***** hard to just move on and hope he gets smarter?

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

dare i ask: how much time have you spent in real life with folks associated with BLM or around protests etc... 
 

or is most of your experience with this online?

 

i won’t generalize across you, and am genuinely curious. What I’ve tended to see is the further distanced people are from it on a human level the more extreme they tend to think it is. There’s obviously militant factions but generally find in person that if you come of pure heart the ice isn’t all that thin. 

I know you weren’t asking me, but ill chime in..
 

I went to a protest in Atlanta with a friend of mine who is black.  I think Black Lives Matter, the movement, is a great thing.  BLM, the organization isn’t exactly something I can get behind. 
 

It’s not so much due to their “What we believe” as I don’t think it’s all that radical, although I’d have to see exactly what they mean by “dismantling the nuclear family”.  I think there’s some validity to the overall concept as many black children grow up without a father, therefore we should encourage “village care”, but fathers involvement in the kids lives should be the goal at the end of the day, not something we just throw our hands up at and “dismantle”. 

Ultimately my issue with BLM, the organization, is due to what prominent leaders have been saying off the cuff, separate from their manifesto.. along with what many of their prominent leaders stand for politically.   

 

Edited August 8, 2020 by SCBills

[NoSaint]

7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I know you weren’t asking me, but ill chime in..
 

I went to a protest in Atlanta with a friend of mine who is black.  I think Black Lives Matter, the movement, is a great thing.  BLM, the organization isn’t exactly something I can get behind. 
 

It’s not so much due to their “What we believe” as I don’t think it’s all that radical, although I’d have to see exactly what they mean by “dismantling the nuclear family”.  I think there’s some validity to the overall concept as many black children grow up without a father, therefore we should encourage “village care”, but fathers involvement in the kids lives should be the goal at the end of the day, not something we just throw our hands up at and “dismantle”. 

Ultimately my issue with BLM, the organization, is due to what prominent leaders have been saying off the cuff, separate from their manifesto.. along with what many of their prominent leaders stand for politically.   

 

I’d clarify for those less familiar that the full quote is: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

 

 

I think that’s far different than dismantling the nuclear family and instead is saying they are building stronger communities where success is less dependent on having the standard family and can be achieved with or without.

 

ill agree I’m not 110% all in for every value or comment but also think some is a bit misrepresented too

Edited August 8, 2020 by NoSaint

[GoBills808]

7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I know you weren’t asking me, but ill chime in..
 

I went to a protest in Atlanta with a friend of mine who is black.  I think Black Lives Matter, the movement, is a great thing.  BLM, the organization isn’t exactly something I can get behind. 
 

It’s not so much due to their “What we believe” as I don’t think it’s all that radical, although I’d have to see exactly what they mean by “dismantling the nuclear family”.  I think there’s some validity to the overall concept as many black children grow up without a father, therefore we should encourage “village care”, but fathers involvement in the kids lives should be the goal at the end of the day, not something we just throw our hands up at and “dismantle”. 

Ultimately my issue with BLM, the organization, is due to what prominent leaders have been saying off the cuff, separate from their manifesto.. along with what many of their prominent leaders stand for politically.   

 

Maybe you should read it again.

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I’d clarify for those less familiar that the full quote is: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

 

 

I think that’s far different than dismantling the nuclear family and instead is saying they are building stronger communities where success is less dependent on having the standard family and can be achieved with or without.

 

ill agree I’m not 110% all in for every value or comment but also think some is a bit misrepresented too

It's misrepresented a little too often.

[whatdrought]

48 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

 

 

If there was an organization named "Ice Cream is Yummy" and they advocated abolishing banks, would it mean that people who supported banks hate ice cream?

Im not sure I understand your point? 

[JoPoy88]

I’m sure someone else has already raised this question, but if not: Would you rather have Rodak back? 
 

I think we all know and share the same answer to that one.

[LeviF]

3 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

I’m sure someone else has already raised this question, but if not: Would you rather have Rodak back? 
 

I think we all know and share the same answer to that one.

lol no Marcel still far superior in every way

[SCBills]

17 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I’d clarify for those less familiar that the full quote is: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

 

 

I think that’s far different than dismantling the nuclear family and instead is saying they are building stronger communities where success is less dependent on having the standard family and can be achieved with or without.

 

ill agree I’m not 110% all in for every value or comment but also think some is a bit misrepresented too

I don’t think I misrepresented it.. I know exactly what it says but paraphrased.  I still feel the exact same way.  The fact “fathers” doesn’t even appear in the statement isn’t what I’m here for.  It’s clearly intentionally worded.. they didn’t just forget to add that. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

At least he’s not Rodak. 
 

[4merper4mer]

37 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Im not sure I understand your point? 

"Black lives matter" is a truthful statement but the organization with that name is full of bad ideas.  An organization with the name "Ice cream is yummy" could also have bad ideas.