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Posted
3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Is this satire?

No, the attachment is a graph of the data set from Milwaukee County, Wisconsin. 

 

It does not follow Benford's Law, which shows clear evidence of fraud. The same can be seen in Detroit, when out of nowhere 130k votes materialized out of thin air. 

 

Here is an explanation from a fraud investigator. 

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

It's just the latest thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Benford's_law

 

But they're trying real hard.

It's not "the latest thing." It's scientific fact and exactly how fraud is discovered anywhere numbers are used. 

 

I guess Dems are too smart for their own good.  #busted

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

Yea, it seems folks without a proper understanding of this mathematical principle are applying it to what they would like to be true.

Incorrect. Its used to detect fraud and anomaly anywhere numbers are used.  

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Posted
1 minute ago, TwistofFate said:

No, the attachment is a graph of the data set from Milwaukee County, Wisconsin. 

 

It does not follow Benford's Law, which shows clear evidence of fraud. The same can be seen in Detroit, when out of nowhere 130k votes materialized out of thin air. 

 

Here is an explanation from a fraud investigator. 

 

Benford's law does not provide evidence of fraud. It provides evidence of statistical anomalies which can be indicators of fraud. Look up "is-a, has-a" relationships. When you cherry pick data sets, you're practicing numerology, not mathematics.

This is how conspiracy theories are designed to work. A small part of something that's technically true, applied to an unstable data set, and then judged with extreme prejudice.

Furthermore, the data does not even seem to suggest the possibility of fraud. When data is non-compliant with Benford's law, it appears evenly distributed. What's occurring here is that in a small sample size, of data of unknown validity, he has more 3's than 1's. Wow, big scandal.

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I looked into this further, just because. If you actually go to the github where this is posted you can pull down the data set. The problem here, honest or intentionally misleading, is that when Benford's law works best, it's on large naturally occurring numbers. The way US elections occur, when measuring precinct by precinct, is NOT based on naturally occuring numbers. It's quite the opposite. Precincts are tied to population. They MASSIVELY favor registration numbers between 700-900 with 0 precincts having a number in the 100s and only a small amount with 1000. This is from the 2018 primary data set.

It's a hoax, and not a particularly elegant one once you stop looking at the graphs and start looking at the data.

https://github.com/cjph8914/2020_benfords/blob/main/Chicago_Wards_Precincts_Benfords_Data.ipynb

dataset: https://chicagoelections.gov/en/election-results-specifics.asp
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Posted
7 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I looked into this further, just because. If you actually go to the github where this is posted you can pull down the data set. The problem here, honest or intentionally misleading, is that when Benford's law works best, it's on large naturally occurring numbers. The way US elections occur, when measuring precinct by precinct, is NOT based on naturally occuring numbers. It's quite the opposite. Precincts are tied to population. They MASSIVELY favor registration numbers between 700-900 with 0 precincts having a number in the 100s and only a small amount with 1000. This is from the 2018 primary data set.

It's a hoax, and not a particularly elegant one once you stop looking at the graphs and start looking at the data.

https://github.com/cjph8914/2020_benfords/blob/main/Chicago_Wards_Precincts_Benfords_Data.ipynb


dataset: https://chicagoelections.gov/en/election-results-specifics.asp

Oh look a paper on how this isn't a thing.

 

https://repository.library.georgetown.edu/handle/10822/557850

 

Also this might come in handy this person seems to be dedicating some time to debunking all this BS.

https://rattibha.com/thread/1324435797374808066?lang=en

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5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Oh look a paper on how this isn't a thing.

 

https://repository.library.georgetown.edu/handle/10822/557850

 

Also this might come in handy this person seems to be dedicating some time to debunking all this BS.

https://rattibha.com/thread/1324435797374808066?lang=en

This could have been an interesting wormhole to go down for a while, but the people propagating it were super lazy - go figure. 

Posted
11 hours ago, westside2 said:

Did I trigger you? I know how sensitive you libbies are. It's going to get very scary around here when the voter fraud is uncovered. I'm sure someone will have a special needs dog you can pet and cry with. 

 

But watching senile biden stumble and fumble with simple speach for however many months they let be president would be fun to watch.

 

Can you imagine how much room there would be af his inauguration ceremony? No chance of contracting covid there. 

There's always a silver lining to every dark cloud. 

Stay well Kemp, I can only imagine going through all this stress would do to someone with mental health issues. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/pennsylvania-convention-center-arrests/index.html

 

Voter fraud, eh?

Posted
4 hours ago, westside2 said:

Lol, chief, I didn't say anything that wasn't true. It's funny, I don't remember you sticking up for Trump when he was called every name in the book.

So take your self righteous indignation and shove it where the sun don't shine. Same goes with your prayers to your sky god you f'n hypocrite. 

Yes asswipe

 

You have now gone from projection to displacement.  And appear to be easily triggered like a snowflake.  In other words, you look really "trumponian" right now.  Not a good look.

Big baby.

Posted
40 minutes ago, IndyMark said:

 

You have now gone from projection to displacement.  And appear to be easily triggered like a snowflake.  In other words, you look really "trumponian" right now.  Not a good look.

Big baby.

Which sock puppet are you? Did your old identity get kicked off so you came up with this one?

 

Who are you to judge me? You don't know me. Should I think of you as a insufferable prude based on your self righteous indignation posts you wrote?

 

I'm not surprised though, you religious people are the most hypocritical of all. Go pray to your sky god that biden lasts four years and that ***** harris isn't president. That would speed up the demise of this once great nation.

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On 10/20/2020 at 3:03 PM, Unforgiven said:

Voter Fraud - quickmeme


It spelled Republican wrong

 

Vote Twice — Don Trump.  
Voter intimidation (various places) 

 

34 minutes ago, westside2 said:

I'm not surprised though, you religious people are the most hypocritical of all. Go pray to your sky god that biden lasts four years and that ***** harris isn't president. That would speed up the demise of this once great nation.


😆 Evangelicals and other Christian groups LOVE Don.  
 

the guy who pays porn stars to have a relationship while married.  
 

Kisses woman when he wants too, grabs them by the kitty etc etc etc 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, westside2 said:

Go pray to your sky god that biden lasts four years and that ***** harris isn't president. That would speed up the demise of this once great nation.


???? talk about sky god? 
 

people on your side worshiped Don.
 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, westside2 said:

Which sock puppet are you? Did your old identity get kicked off so you came up with this one?

 

Who are you to judge me? You don't know me. Should I think of you as a insufferable prude based on your self righteous indignation posts you wrote?

 

I'm not surprised though, you religious people are the most hypocritical of all. Go pray to your sky god that biden lasts four years and that ***** harris isn't president. That would speed up the demise of this once great nation.

looking like the little kid that got kicked out of the sandbox, turning away with blankie in hand sucking his thumb as he strolls off the playground.

 

 

oh, by the way, I believe in no god nor as you say, sky god. but I do believe in aliens. a post like that from a hypocrite calling out the hypocrite, certainly warranted a response.

 

 

 

Posted
On 8/5/2020 at 8:24 AM, Buffalo Timmy said:

Good to know you think that sending out ballots the way the blue states are doing it is a bad idea. I also appreciate you recognize that both sides have committed fraud and stamping out the fraud should be out concern but currently that is not something any blue state is doing and it appears some are promoting fraud.


Arizona is all mail ballots.  They are typically red IIRC. 


that’s why it took sorry is taking so long. 
 

 

Posted
10 hours ago, TwistofFate said:

Apparently no one can explain how Biden broke the mathematical law known as Benfords Law, twice in the same hour in both Milwaukee and Detroit, yet every other candidate did not. 

 

Liberals..."we believe in science!" Not really. 

 

Rigged...FRAUD.

 

https://towardsdatascience.com/what-is-benfords-law-and-why-is-it-important-for-data-science-312cb8b61048

 

Benfords law 44.82 kB · 3 downloads

 

Yes...reading is better than conspiracy threads.

 

Having the distribution of leading digits stray from the expected percentages predicted by Benford’s Law can happen by chance, though it is more common when the law’s assumptions are violated, as they often are with vote tallies.

 

Benford’s Law, and other math-based inquiries, can be used to detect voter fraud, but the vast majority of these violations are not conclusive evidence of fraud. 

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