Nextmanup Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 This was one hell of an explosion. I believe it registered a 3.3 on the Richter scale---not joking. That's gotta be roughly equivalent to some sort of very low yield thermonuclear explosion.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 14 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The explosion is ammonium nitrate or very close chemical relative for reals. Can't speak to quantity. But the color of the explosion is characteristic. You are Bond, aren't you... *?
shrader Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 I was down the street from a gas line explosion a year or two ago that leveled an entire building. I can't even imagine what it was like for anyone within a visible distance of this explosion. Those videos are downright chilling. 1
Golden Goat Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 Ammonium nitrate isn't the most toxic chemical in the world, but add the COVID-19 factor -- and the prolonged exposure factor -- Ouch.
GottaRun Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 Image of the storage area from before the explosion, and an explanation from Reddit "The bigger problem is storing it all in one pile, not having enough ventilation or water, and leaving it to sit in a humid atmosphere for long periods of time (so the individual grains can turn into a concrete-like explosive block). Explosives need three things to explode: heat, pressure and some way to keep it all together until the reaction is completed, called confinement. To keep AN safe, you need ventilation and water sprinklers (for heat), standoff distance between bags (for pressure) and not letting it clump (for confinement). Looks like none of these were done."
apuszczalowski Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 9 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Good lord....its been there for 6 years. Somebody has some explaining to do. According to what I read earlier, a ship carrying it was flagged in the area and forced to dock in that port. The owner of the ship ended up abandoning it along with the owner of the shipment. It stayed on the ship along with 6 crew members who were forced to stay there until it was resolved. They warned about it being a danger and the materials were moved to a warehouse. The crew was still forced to stay with the ship and were eventually told that since it was abandoned they would be responsible to sell it off which they couldn't do because their ship had the communications devices removed. They were dealing with lawyers to try and get the off to go back game but said there was alot of corruption with the company and lawyers. If true, sounds like a messed up situation that is going to have some huge consequences, or should if they can do it without any corruption..... 1
RaoulDuke79 Posted August 6, 2020 Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: According to what I read earlier, a ship carrying it was flagged in the area and forced to dock in that port. The owner of the ship ended up abandoning it along with the owner of the shipment. It stayed on the ship along with 6 crew members who were forced to stay there until it was resolved. They warned about it being a danger and the materials were moved to a warehouse. The crew was still forced to stay with the ship and were eventually told that since it was abandoned they would be responsible to sell it off which they couldn't do because their ship had the communications devices removed. They were dealing with lawyers to try and get the off to go back game but said there was alot of corruption with the company and lawyers. If true, sounds like a messed up situation that is going to have some huge consequences, or should if they can do it without any corruption..... The crew sounds like it got screwed on that deal. I'm not up to snuff on the laws of freighting, but it seems like the crew should be the last people involved with the disposition of 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate.
apuszczalowski Posted August 6, 2020 Posted August 6, 2020 3 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: The crew sounds like it got screwed on that deal. I'm not up to snuff on the laws of freighting, but it seems like the crew should be the last people involved with the disposition of 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate. True From my understanding reading the article, since the shipping companies owner basically abandoned the ship instead of going through whatever trouble they were in that caused them to get docked there, and then the company that was to receive the shipment also abandoned it, they said the crew is responsible for it since they were the ones actually moving it and Lebanon was detaining the members of the crew until things were resolved. Seems like alot of shadyness going on if thats true It seems weird, doesn't appear to be getting much coverage around here though that you assume a massive explosion like that would get.....
IslandBillsFan Posted August 6, 2020 Posted August 6, 2020 9 hours ago, driddles said: Image of the storage area from before the explosion, and an explanation from Reddit "The bigger problem is storing it all in one pile, not having enough ventilation or water, and leaving it to sit in a humid atmosphere for long periods of time (so the individual grains can turn into a concrete-like explosive block). Explosives need three things to explode: heat, pressure and some way to keep it all together until the reaction is completed, called confinement. To keep AN safe, you need ventilation and water sprinklers (for heat), standoff distance between bags (for pressure) and not letting it clump (for confinement). Looks like none of these were done." I hope this three dudes weren't there when this thing went off.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 6, 2020 Posted August 6, 2020 Jesus dude.. Why would you say that?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 8, 2020 Posted August 8, 2020 Igor Grechushkin, the Russian owner of the ship that carried a huge cargo of explosives to Beirut, which exploded years later, was questioned by Cypriot police on Thursday, reports say https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-owner-abandoned-ship-full-104713006.html
KD in CA Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 The ship's been there since 2014?? Sure sounds like everyone just blew it off and now it's scapegoat time....
Saxum Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, KD in CA said: The ship's been there since 2014?? Sure sounds like everyone just blew it off and now it's scapegoat time.... Typical bureaucracy. No one wanted to take responsibility for it.
DrDawkinstein Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Typical bureaucracy. No one wanted to take responsibility for it. Welp, looks like theyre gonna have to now. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/lebanon-government-resigned-today-beirut-explosion-news-a9663301.html Beirut explosion: Entire Lebanese government to resign within hours over deadly blast, minister say The entire Lebanese cabinet is set to resign over last week’s devastating blast at Beirut port which killed hundreds of people and injured thousands more.
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/08/11/ex-porn-star-mia-khalifa-auctions-glasses-for-beirut-victims/
BillsFan4 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Posted August 11, 2020 On 8/5/2020 at 6:16 PM, driddles said: Image of the storage area from before the explosion, and an explanation from Reddit "The bigger problem is storing it all in one pile, not having enough ventilation or water, and leaving it to sit in a humid atmosphere for long periods of time (so the individual grains can turn into a concrete-like explosive block). Explosives need three things to explode: heat, pressure and some way to keep it all together until the reaction is completed, called confinement. To keep AN safe, you need ventilation and water sprinklers (for heat), standoff distance between bags (for pressure) and not letting it clump (for confinement). Looks like none of these were done." Thats ******* crazy!! Wtf?!
Nextmanup Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 5:32 PM, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: https://nypost.com/2020/08/11/ex-porn-star-mia-khalifa-auctions-glasses-for-beirut-victims/ LOL! Made me laugh out loud! You gotta love America. Such warm and giving people!
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