billsbackto81 Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 Teams don't usually have 2 elite level CBs on a starting defense. Usually on most Top defenses you'll have an elite or pro bowl level CB on one side and a very good to above average CB on the other. Unfortunately the drop off after Tre is pretty significant. Fortunately our D is designed around players that excel in zone coverage that have good recognition, anticipation, and reaction. If Norman recaptures his form from his Carolina days we should be good. Wallace, Jackson and newly acquired King provide solid depth.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 Please show me a team that has all-pros at every position.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Josh Norman can still play. He jacked it in last year playing in a clown show franchise. He will start opposite White and he will surprise a lot of people. certainly possible. Scheme makes a world of difference, and the redskins DC put him in man coverage along with Badly misfitting his scheme to most of the plAyers on that roster. Certainly could have a late career resurgence playing back in palms zone
billsfan89 Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 Possibly? I think Levi Wallace is a decent CB2 option and Norman is a reclamation project. So if Josh Norman busts they can plug in Levi Wallace and be fine.
TigerJ Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 It doesn't take a genius to figure out that CB2 is the weakest spot on the defense. The question is, how weak is it. The answer is, probably not that bad. Levi Wallace is a known quantity. He shouldn't be any worse than last year, and will probably be a bit better. Josh Norman is hard to figure. He was playing in a Washington defense that did not play to his strengths. Maybe declining athleticism played a large role in his poor play, but it might have been more scheme and impaired motivation. Norman is not a young cornerback, but there have been a number of cornerbacks who have been effective well into their thirties. I fully expect Buffalo to address CB fairly early in the draft next year, but I'm not to worried about the position for this season.
Protocal69 Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 2 hours ago, TigerJ said: It doesn't take a genius to figure out that CB2 is the weakest spot on the defense. The question is, how weak is it. The answer is, probably not that bad. Levi Wallace is a known quantity. He shouldn't be any worse than last year, and will probably be a bit better. Josh Norman is hard to figure. He was playing in a Washington defense that did not play to his strengths. Maybe declining athleticism played a large role in his poor play, but it might have been more scheme and impaired motivation. Norman is not a young cornerback, but there have been a number of cornerbacks who have been effective well into their thirties. I fully expect Buffalo to address CB fairly early in the draft next year, but I'm not to worried about the position for this season. I literally had a dream last night that we took a CB in the 1st. smh
Billl Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Norman played better in Washington than the narrative. Until 2019 that is and to me his body language looked like that of a guy who had given up. I don't think we are going to get 2015 Josh Norman, not for a minute. But if we get 2017 / 2018 Josh Norman that is still an upgrade on Wallace. Norman was horrific. He was targeted 46 times and gave up 7 TDs. He gave up 10 yards per attempt, and opposing QBs had a rating of 129 when targeting him. He might have been the worst player at any position in the league. I can’t imagine he starts.
Lurker Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 Meh. I think I'll keep my ad blocker on for that site...
Malazan Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Gene1973 said: Hope Norman can be great again but that really feels like wishful thinking. Expecting great from him is...well..not realistic. The Bills are likely looking for consistently average and if they get that, they'd be in good shape.
frogger Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 I am on the team that believes Norman is a system CB, leave it to Washington to believe he could play in a system that wasn’t McDermott’s. He also gave up on Washington, I think ownership and coaching (or lack of) made the situation intolerable. 1
skibum Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 A lot of teams will be starting JAGs at a lot of positions this year. The good news is that there is more talent than opportunity out there, so I think it will all even out and things will be fine.
marky Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 “If the Buffalo Bills’ defense has a weakness, where is it?" A lack of aggression. You can't let Watson slip that tackle in playoff OT. Rip his head off. Add an identity instead of just containing everything. Play to win even if it's not fair.
purple haze Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 10 hours ago, MJS said: So I think it is likely that Wallace is the guy again. And I'm fine with that. He had a sophomore slump but he's a young player and can get better. He had a 3 game “slump.” Outside that he played well just like his rookie season. I expect he will play well again and we’ll just have to accept it.
Mango Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 Remember when Dick Jauron converted WR George Wilson to SS. What a wild time to be a bills fan.
Saxum Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 George Wilson was a better DB than a WR and he was a DB who could catch and tackled well for a former WR. I think Bills weakness may be depth this year on DBs. Losing Kevin Johnson to a contract the Bills could have afforded will hurt.
John from Riverside Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 Is this a real qustion? Because we have one of the best in the NFL at one spot and a mix of guys at number 2? We cant be pro bowl at every position on a team
BullBuchanan Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 CB2 and SLB are probably the weakest, but not really concerned. Not a lot of teams have a great #2.
Locomark Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Well the Bills photographer seems to have a problem with Josh Norman as a roster member.. check out his photo on the Bills Roster site under the roster section, it’s pretty funny. It’s about 1/3 of his head...... In all seriousness, no we do not have a problem. We have better cb2 talent now than in any of our 4 SB years. What we need on defense are more forced turnovers which seemed to drop off last year. That is part pass rush and part forcing more fumbles. Edited August 5, 2020 by Locomark
GunnerBill Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Billl said: Norman was horrific. He was targeted 46 times and gave up 7 TDs. He gave up 10 yards per attempt, and opposing QBs had a rating of 129 when targeting him. He might have been the worst player at any position in the league. I can’t imagine he starts. Yea he was in 2019. But I don't think he was trying. Before that he was still a good player. Maybe he dropped off a cliff last year but I suspect he mentally checked out of a clown show.
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