Don Otreply Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Beane is just waiting to trade one of these guys to some desperate team for a 5th next month Nail on the head there, Beane has a plan B & C for everyone on the roster it appears.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Some people hoard TP and hand sanitizer in a pandemic. Beane hoards O linemen. Last few seasons, tight ends. Now, offensive linemen.
Warcodered Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said: Hopefully he will flip a few that will be cut into draft picks. May be harder this year with no preseason games to showcase them. With the Patriots OL trouble I'd of thought they'd of been on this guy.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Nail on the head there, Beane has a plan B & C for everyone on the roster it appears. Secret plot to get back Peterman. ?
Don Otreply Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Yea. Thanks for correction for autocorrect. I believe he was active last year. Iirc Bates played in A handful of games, he recovered a fumble in one of them, he seemed to carry his weight as it were. 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Secret plot to get back Peterman. ? Yup another Montana just waiting for his moment... ? 1
GunnerBill Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Yea. Thanks for correction for autocorrect. I believe he was active last year. He was active 8 times but his only real action came week 17 against the Jets at RT (and he was bad). Now I think a lot of people think he has more chance as an inside guy, and I agree, but it is all projection. Keeping him as your backup center when he has never done it in an NFL game over two guys who have in Boehm and Long is a major risk. If we had pre-season games and he beat them out on the field facing semi live bullets then that is one thing. Gambling on him over two proven solid backup vets based on camp reps is another. 1
stinky finger Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, DJB said: Jets front office I just...... 1
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 Second he was cut I messaged my friend there’s our feliciano replacement 1
TigerJ Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) I'm a bit surprised. No terms revealed, I presume. Beane is collecting trade bait I presume, not that Winters will be the one traded, but between Ike Boettger, Evan Boehm, Spencer Long, Quinton Spain, Darryl Williams, and Winters, it'll be hard to imagine Beane not trying to trade somebody, and I didn't even mention some of the younger guys who could play on the interior of the line. Edited August 4, 2020 by TigerJ
GunnerBill Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Beane is just waiting to trade one of these guys to some desperate team for a 5th next month I think that might be harder without pre-season too. Because teams will talk themselves into standing pat with guys that look good in shorts rather than realising in pre-season "this guy is gonna get my QB hurt". But if there is a team who feels uncomfortable with their depth then the Bills are definitely a team they will call.
NewEra Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 41 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: No, but I do think it odd that Beane would double down and effectively box himself into a decision that didn't exactly prove to be the right one last season. Overall, I'd say Ford was a net negative last year at Tackle, and it's been a very common suggestion that he'd be a better guard. I agree completely, but I get why they want to keep him at RT and have no problem with it for one reason. His potential replacements at RT are underwhelming. Nsekhe was better than Ford last year, but he couldn’t stay healthy playing part time. He basically has zero% chance of playing 16 games and the playoffs. He’s best served as a very good backup. D williams is a more intriguing candidate. Pro bowl a couple years ago, but sometimes big men can’t recover from injuries the way the smaller guys can. Seems to be a shell of himself. Maybe another year removed from the surgery will be beneficial for him and he can regain some of his old form. I wouldn’t bet on it. Trey Adams. Long, long shot. Hard to make a case for him beating out our 2nd rd pick of a year ago but I’ve seen crazier things. If he really impresses them, I could see them potentially moving ford. Although I really see adams as a possible replacement for Dawkins. It’s not like dawkins is great. On his best day, I think he’s pretty good. Never elite. About to be paid a large sum of money. If Adams can surprise and be a steal we can save a lot of money. Unlikely as it may be, that’s how I view adams. Not a replacement for Ford. 1
WickedGame Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Boehm or Long. I want to see Long step in for Morse on one play, just so we can get a “Long Winters” photo. 1 2
BullBuchanan Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I agree completely, but I get why they want to keep him at RT and have no problem with it for one reason. His potential replacements at RT are underwhelming. Nsekhe was better than Ford last year, but he couldn’t stay healthy playing part time. He basically has zero% chance of playing 16 games and the playoffs. He’s best served as a very good backup. D williams is a more intriguing candidate. Pro bowl a couple years ago, but sometimes big men can’t recover from injuries the way the smaller guys can. Seems to be a shell of himself. Maybe another year removed from the surgery will be beneficial for him and he can regain some of his old form. I wouldn’t bet on it. Trey Adams. Long, long shot. Hard to make a case for him beating out our 2nd rd pick of a year ago but I’ve seen crazier things. If he really impresses them, I could see them potentially moving ford. Although I really see adams as a possible replacement for Dawkins. It’s not like dawkins is great. On his best day, I think he’s pretty good. Never elite. About to be paid a large sum of money. If Adams can surprise and be a steal we can save a lot of money. Unlikely as it may be, that’s how I view adams. Not a replacement for Ford. When they signed Williams that looked like a strong signal that Ford would be slipping inside, given he's a proven commodity, but I hear you. Unless Ford is a dumpster fire, which I definitely don't want, I expect him to start.
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Does that mean Nsekhe will lose out? No Nsekhe will back up both Tackles, Daryl Williams will back up both Guards.... but I ask, Who’s the backup center? Bates?
John from Riverside Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: I agree completely, but I get why they want to keep him at RT and have no problem with it for one reason. His potential replacements at RT are underwhelming. Nsekhe was better than Ford last year, but he couldn’t stay healthy playing part time. He basically has zero% chance of playing 16 games and the playoffs. He’s best served as a very good backup. D williams is a more intriguing candidate. Pro bowl a couple years ago, but sometimes big men can’t recover from injuries the way the smaller guys can. Seems to be a shell of himself. Maybe another year removed from the surgery will be beneficial for him and he can regain some of his old form. I wouldn’t bet on it. Trey Adams. Long, long shot. Hard to make a case for him beating out our 2nd rd pick of a year ago but I’ve seen crazier things. If he really impresses them, I could see them potentially moving ford. Although I really see adams as a possible replacement for Dawkins. It’s not like dawkins is great. On his best day, I think he’s pretty good. Never elite. About to be paid a large sum of money. If Adams can surprise and be a steal we can save a lot of money. Unlikely as it may be, that’s how I view adams. Not a replacement for Ford. Tre Adams is that guy I want to get onto the practice squad....cultivate him for a year and then get him in there......I think he has talent. Bottom line......Beane knows what he is actually doing
YoloinOhio Posted August 3, 2020 Author Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: No Nsekhe will back up both Tackles, Daryl Williams will back up both Guards.... but I ask, Who’s the backup center? Bates? Bates was projected as a C coming out of college. He’s also signed for a few years on a cheap deal. But Long has starting experience there (even though he played hurt). I think Boehm is more of a guard? Edited August 3, 2020 by YoloinOhio
jkeerie Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: So.....The Bills are the Raiders of the 70's? Their D was nasty! I'd love it if the Bills D could be that fierce...although so many of those hits in the 70s would warrant flags today.
GunnerBill Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Bates was projected as a C coming out of college. He’s also signed for a few years on a cheap deal. But Long has starting experience there (even though he played hurt). I think Boehm is more of a guard? Boehm has been a swing inside guy. He definitely played both in Arizona.
BarleyNY Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 Nothing wrong with adding a player like Winters at this time. He replaces the depth we lost with Feliciano’s injury. Happy to see the signing. For those complaining about the quality of his play, there aren’t a lot of high end offensive linemen out there right now. Beane did what he could.
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, DJB said: Jets front office Today’s internet winner! 1
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