Mr Info Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 So...has anyone taken pics of the Bills video boards to post here showing this?
CEN-CAL17 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Protesters. Half these people have no purpose to be protesting other than they don’t like the police. So they get in their face, try to instigate a reaction, follow their movements etc.... then when something happens everyone blames the police. That’s not how it works. That’s not protesting. That’s not the right way to do anything. What happened to that crazy girl dressed up like an idiot, probably on drugs, dancing in the middle of a people barricade, making movements towards them as the were moving is just not protesting. It’s trying to escalate a reaction. I don’t think it’s necessarily rioting but I don’t have a problem with law enforcement thinking if you get to close to a building they are protecting they have the right to react. This is all dumb and childish at this point. These idiots in Portland have contributed nothing to this country ever. A very large portion of those individuals are homeless addicts that blame this country for all there problems. This is how they act and I’m sick of people defending this BS behavior. If my kids were to ever act like that..... nobody raises there kids to act that way. But so many people think it’s ok. Then raise them like that and see how successful they turn out... You don’t see people who are actually law abiding, successful individuals out there acting like that. It’s disgusting and isn’t protesting, it’s just not.... “for just being here” “peacefully protesting”........ all hopped up on drugs.... these are things people aren’t seeing. Look “dude got shot up for no reason”..... don’t believe it. Edited July 31, 2020 by CEN-CAL17 1
SectionC3 Posted July 31, 2020 Author Posted July 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mr Info said: So...has anyone taken pics of the Bills video boards to post here showing this? Yup. Earlier in the thread.
CEN-CAL17 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Protesters. What do you describe as the difference between an innocent person accused of no crime being "abducted" vs "apprehended and taken away"? This is false in the cases I documented. Most of the people abducted are never even charged with a crime. If you claim different I want sources. otherwise your statement is a lie. Just because they aren’t charged with a crime doesn’t mean they didn’t actually commit a crime. You want me to prove something I can’t but yet you can’t prove anything yourself. Not what you read from a liberal source, or this was said etc... because you read something or have a case “you documented” that proves nothing. But what I say is a lie and you have all the facts. Got it. Keep up the good work. Federal agents are just driving the streets and abducting people. That’s crazy. I don’t believe it lol just like this dude got assaulted and shot for no reason.... document that as an unwarranted assault. Edited July 31, 2020 by CEN-CAL17
KD in CA Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Is that not possible? Not if we're talking about human beings it's not.
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Half these people have no purpose to be protesting other than they don’t like the police. So they get in their face, try to instigate a reaction, follow their movements etc.... then when something happens everyone blames the police. That’s not how it works. That’s not protesting. That’s not the right way to do anything. What happened to that crazy girl dressed up like an idiot, probably on drugs, dancing in the middle of a people barricade, making movements towards them as the were moving is just not protesting. It’s trying to escalate a reaction. I don’t think it’s necessarily rioting but I don’t have a problem with law enforcement thinking if you get to close to a building they are protecting they have the right to react. This is all dumb and childish at this point. These idiots in Portland have contributed nothing to this country ever. A very large portion of those individuals are homeless addicts that blame this country for all there problems. This is how they act and I’m sick of people defending this BS behavior. If my kids were to ever act like that..... nobody raises there kids to act that way. But so many people think it’s ok. Then raise them like that and see how successful they turn out... You don’t see people who are actually law abiding, successful individuals out there acting like that. It’s disgusting and isn’t protesting, it’s just not.... “for just being here” “peacefully protesting”........ all hopped up on drugs.... these are things people aren’t seeing. Look “dude got shot up for no reason”..... don’t believe it. Half? Is it not valid to protest because you don't like the police? Is that not their constitutional right? I don't like the police either. BTW, Blaze is a propaganda network, not a news source : https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-blaze/ Edited July 31, 2020 by BullBuchanan 1
KD in CA Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Why not? You don't believe in unions or collective bargaining? You don't think plumbers, electricians, welders, glass workers, etc. should have people fighting on their behalf for overtime, pensions, healthcare and safe work conditions? Oh....that's all you want out of Marxism, labor unions? Nothing else? That's funny, we have labor unions right now without the Marxism. The corruption created between them and certain politicians are busy bankrupting state governments across the country.
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 56 minutes ago, Mr Info said: So...has anyone taken pics of the Bills video boards to post here showing this? It got drowned out by the noise and people who are afraid to say black lives matter. 2
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, KD in CA said: Oh....that's all you want out of Marxism, labor unions? Nothing else? That's funny, we have labor unions right now without the Marxism. The corruption created between them and certain politicians are busy bankrupting state governments across the country. No, but it's part of it. I don't advocate for going all the way to "the dream" , but I do see many positive aspects of Social Democracy on our society and others, and would generally favor something closer aligned to Market Socialism.
Buffalo716 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: It got drowned out by the noise and people who are afraid to say black lives matter. Of course they matter I didn't see anyone say they haven't in this thread
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Of course they matter I didn't see anyone say they haven't in this thread Unless we're talking about being assaulted, killed or abducted by police. Then they still matter, but not as much as the police. lots of "unfortunate" incidents. Edited July 31, 2020 by BullBuchanan 1
SectionC3 Posted July 31, 2020 Author Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Unless we're talking about being assaulted, killed or abducted by police. Then they still matter, but not as much as the police. lots of "unfortunate" incidents. And this is why the signage is important. There are people on the Bills who completely agree with you. And that agreement is based on valid points and criticisms. So if one is against a "Black Lives Matter" message at the stadium, I suspect that one also is anti-Bills. The message is good for football, it's good for business, and it's good for everyone who lives and loves the Bills. It's important that we all recognize that.
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Of course they matter I didn't see anyone say they haven't in this thread Then why did the discussion turn away from the message on the billboard and it's relation to the team and the Pegulas to Marxism and Blaze TV?? 1
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Then why did the discussion turn away from the message on the billboard and it's relation to the team and the Pegulas to Marxism and Blaze TV?? Because we whataboutismed our way there. Apparently calling someone a marxist is enough to discredit anything they ever say as wrong, according to some here. We could have ignored that, but instead we explored it and went on to prove why that's not a valid excuse. Edited July 31, 2020 by BullBuchanan
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: Because we whataboutismed our way there. Apparently calling someone a marxist is enough to discredit anything they ever say as wrong, according to some here. Will Bills fans be screaming at players like Ed Oliver and Josh Norman that they are marxists because they support BLM? I would be shocked. Edited July 31, 2020 by wAcKy ZeBrA
dwight in philly Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Half? Is it not valid to protest because you don't like the police? Is that not their constitutional right? I don't like the police either. BTW, Blaze is a propaganda network, not a news source : https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-blaze/ Blaze tv is a propaganda network ? based on the BS "fact check" source ? pathetic . let me go find a BS conservative "fact check" and plug in CNN. ABC. MSNBC .. Edited July 31, 2020 by dwight in philly
Buffalo716 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Then why did the discussion turn away from the message on the billboard and it's relation to the team and the Pegulas to Marxism and Blaze TV?? Because the actual blm movement does not care about all black people There are people murdering right-wing black Trump supporters. Blm does not care about them Nor do they care about the black police officers killed by criminals Every single black person's life matters Edited July 31, 2020 by Buffalo716 1
BullBuchanan Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, dwight in philly said: Blaze tv is a propaganda network ? based on the BS "fact check" source ? pathetic . let me go find a BS conservative "fact check" and plug in CNN. ABC. MSNBC .. Why is the fact check BS? 1
CEN-CAL17 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Half? Is it not valid to protest because you don't like the police? Is that not their constitutional right? I don't like the police either. BTW, Blaze is a propaganda network, not a news source : https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-blaze/ Just stop. You think it’s protesting and I don’t. Fine. That doesn’t make either of us right. and I don’t care who posted the video. The point is the dude acted as if he wasn’t doing nothing. Just like a lot of other people think. “They’re just protesting”.... dude was caught lying, video saw him jump a police barricade, fuel a fire and was shot. Meanwhile the girl acted like he didn’t do anything wrong. BS. If you agree with it, so be it. If you think breaking the law and inciting violence in the name of “protest” is fine, so be it. Is BS and it’s a bunch of losers with nothing better to do, cause obviously they can’t figure out what peaceful protest means. Cause what he was doing says nothing of peaceful protest. BTW how are you going to argue this dude was caught red handed and screamed the cops assaulted him?! How is that propaganda? Edited July 31, 2020 by CEN-CAL17
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) Not sure if this article has been posted... awesome statement by Kim who admits what many of us who are not black refuse to https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/why-buffalo-bills-chose-to-publicly-support-black-lives-matter/article_b2024f56-d057-5d94-bdfb-538891f94c53.html Honestly, I was probably one of those in the past that said, well, ‘All Lives Matter,’ ” Kim Pegula said. “And I’m now learning that ‘Black Lives Matter’ does not mean that other lives don’t matter. All they’re doing is highlighting that the black community are lives and should also be considered … “And so I’m hoping that others, too, will take the time to say, ‘OK, what does that mean?’ ” As for Bills fans who say they’re offended and will no longer support the team? “All we can say is they have to do what they feel is right for them,” Kim Pegula said. “We would hate to see them go, because I think football can actually help us come together. But that’s a choice I can’t control.” Edited July 31, 2020 by wAcKy ZeBrA
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