Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 4 hours ago, teef said: i don't think the choices are completely to shut down or limp along. in ny we had a total shut down, had a phased opening period, and are still holding strong. that's how it should be. a lot has to do with how people were educated or how serious they took the initial shut down. being in wny, most of us took it very seriously. we played by the rules, wore and still wear masks, social distanced, etc. my sister in law was in palm springs, and they were working on a completely different set of rules. it was a big joke what was happening up north. she was out on boats, kids hanging out with whom ever they wanted. it was going to go away "once the weather became warm". we saw that in a lot of other states as well. well look were those states are now. if people actually used their heads and played by the rules, we would not be in this position today. Well when I said I total shut down I basically meant something like what NY did, to me that was a total shut down excluding essential businesses. Heard an interesting interview a month or two ago from the governor of Conn. which kind of supports what you just stated. He said that things worked and people listened in the NE as pretty much everyone either directly knew someone who had Covid, or they knew a health worker who told them first hand of conditions inside hospitals etc. Maybe a similar thing will happen now in Florida and Texas once things have got real bad, will see.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 The Onion weighs on on the topic https://sports.theonion.com/mlb-announces-players-will-now-be-quarantined-for-14-da-1844520732 1
Big Blitz Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: The fact that you believe that hypothetical and vague scenario is a greater threat over quantifiable data of a thing that's actually happening right now is what's insane. I've seen this stuff parroted all over the place for months by the predictable groups of people. Was it on AM radio or something? I somehow miss where you guys get your talking points, but I always know when you get a new one. "Predictable groups of people?" You mean Americans who were told this from the very beginning and are now currently victims of the biggest breach of trust in history? Yes we're those people and we remember the goal was never "no one gets the virus!"
BullBuchanan Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, Big Blitz said: "Predictable groups of people?" You mean Americans who were told this from the very beginning and are now currently victims of the biggest breach of trust in history? No, I mean the type of people that will grasp at any alternative to reality based on strictly partisan lines. The types of people that never gave two ****s about suicide using it as a weapon to try to strawman their way through an argument. 2 1
Saint Doug Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 11 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Really? The medical community or the medical community that got told to rewrite all the guidelines a couple weeks ago or just the medical community on the channel you watch. You got a lot of up votes, but there was some veracity to what that guy posted. The American Academy of Pediatrics is on record for school reopening this fall. This is the organization that comes up with all guidelines pediatricians follow. They have no political stance, nor are they part of any form of the federal government. Although, their members are left-leaning. https://services.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2020/pediatricians-educators-and-superintendents-urge-a-safe-return-to-school-this-fall/
4_kidd_4 Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Hey guys! Oh, Baseball, huh? Alright! Welp, see ya later! 1 1
Big Blitz Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: No, I mean the type of people that will grasp at any alternative to reality based I don't know what this even means.
BullBuchanan Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I don't know what this even means. Clearly.
SCBills Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: No, I mean the type of people that will grasp at any alternative to reality based on strictly partisan lines. The types of people that never gave two ****s about suicide using it as a weapon to try to strawman their way through an argument. As opposed to those who only seem to care about COVID deaths while downplaying the tremendous side effects resulting from the lockdowns.... job loss, business closures, Suicide, drug overdose, domestic abuse, children falling behind in school etc etc etc. How come 90% of the COVID concern folks I encounter don’t seem to give a **** about any of that. I know why... because it’s a distraction from what they want to focus on. COVID isn’t a hoax. It should be taken seriously. We should wear masks and socially distance. A limited lockdown was warranted. .....but we’re into some bs now and the self righteous are beyond transparent at this point.
BullBuchanan Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SCBills said: As opposed to those who only seem to care about COVID deaths while downplaying the tremendous side effects resulting from the lockdowns.... job loss, business closures, Suicide, drug overdose, domestic abuse, children falling behind in school etc etc etc. How come 90% of the COVID concern folks I encounter don’t seem to give a **** about any of that. I know why... because it’s a distraction from what they want to focus on. COVID isn’t a hoax. It should be taken seriously. We should wear masks and socially distance. A limited lockdown was warranted. .....but we’re into some bs now and the self righteous are beyond transparent at this point. Because most of it is whataboutism. I think you'll find most of the folks ringing the bell about the pandemic have also been doing so about "job loss, business closures, Suicide, drug overdose, domestic abuse, children falling behind in school", for years. As we can agree, the pandemic is very real and is causing a lot of pain. We like to believe however that we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Those issues you cited were here long before the pandemic or not, and will be here afterwards. There are already people fighting the fight for them, and the Progressive platform is built around solving them as a society. However, none of those things, none of them, matter if you're dead or severely disabled. That's why COVID has taken center stage. People act like business would not have been interrupted if we just allowed the entire country to get sick, and that's obviously not true. The simple answer is that if we would have put on our big boy pants and accepted responsibility like most of us were raised to, this would have been over in weeks, not months. Yet here we are. I fully expect this to go on into 2021 as a result. We have no one to blame but ourselves. Edited July 28, 2020 by BullBuchanan 1
ALF Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 I thought Canada was being too cautious not allowing the Blue Jays to play there , looks like they were right.
oldmanfan Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Not surprising. I cannot see how pro sports can be played fairly right now. Teams that lose players from infection will be at significant competitive disadvantage.
SCBills Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: Not surprising. I cannot see how pro sports can be played fairly right now. Teams that lose players from infection will be at significant competitive disadvantage. Whats crazy (but understandable) is that most players will get sicker from the flu and just load up on meds and play. However, most who get COVID will likely have mild symptoms and get sidelined for two weeks. Again, understandable, but that’s where we’re at. Edited July 28, 2020 by SCBills
ALF Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: NFL should take note only allow limited number of players in club house at once . Playing that's a big problem that can't be mitigated.
aristocrat Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 22 hours ago, RiotAct said: The protests definitely didn’t help, that’s for sure. The public figures normalizing and encouraging the mass gatherings (while just having gotten finished lambasting the much smaller lockdown protests a month prior) was disgusting. yeah havent people already tested positive for it again recently after having it in March/April? so hoping these guys are all ok but have we heard if they are showing symptoms? they could be guinea pigs for herd immunity although i doubt that was their plan. seeing how their team reacts to this going forward could give us a good look at the fall.
aristocrat Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 no phillies player has tested pos so far so that is some good news and it would be interesting to see if lends to the theory that perhaps asymptomatic people aren't spreaders? that would be very good news.
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: the theory that perhaps asymptomatic people aren't spreaders Whose theory is this? 1
aristocrat Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Whose theory is this? it's something they have found but not proven. the idea is that only certain people are spreaders but that they are super spreaders. you'll find 9 out of 10 people don't spread it but that one person spreads it like wild fire. but like i said nothing proven but lets hope that turns out to be the case.
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, aristocrat said: it's something they have found but not proven. the idea is that only certain people are spreaders but that they are super spreaders. you'll find 9 out of 10 people don't spread it but that one person spreads it like wild fire. but like i said nothing proven but lets hope that turns out to be the case. Again - whose theory is it? Something "they" found but not proven. Who are "they?" 1
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