slothrop Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 We've got Justice Kennedy writing decisions based upon international law, not the Constitution of the United States? That's just outrageous," DeLay told Fox News Radio on Tuesday. "And not only that, but he said in session that he does his own research on the Internet? That is just incredibly outrageous. First, international law is a reality that can have binding effect (such as treaties), despite the wishes of xenophobes like Delay. It also can be used as persuasive (non binding) authority. Second, what F-ing century is Delay from? He is worked up because Kennedy does legal research on the internet? Every attorney under the age of 40 does their research using Westlaw or Lexis. I have not opened a court reporter since first year of law school. I think it is great that Kennedy has adjusted to the times (many older attorneys are intimidated by online research). Holy cripes, Delay is simply unhinged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 First, international law is a reality that can have binding effect (such as treaties), despite the wishes of xenophobes like Delay. It also can be used as persuasive (non binding) authority. Second, what F-ing century is Delay from? He is worked up because Kennedy does legal research on the internet? Every attorney under the age of 40 does their research using Westlaw or Lexis. I have not opened a court reporter since first year of law school. I think it is great that Kennedy has adjusted to the times (many older attorneys are intimidated by online research). Holy cripes, Delay is simply unhinged. 310162[/snapback] Perhaps it's a not so subtle nod to the less technically sophisticated that in addition to law research, Kennedy dabbles in kiddie porn on the Internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 He's in his Congressional death throes. Next week he'll be calling the Constitution unconstitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 He's in his Congressional death throes. Next week he'll be calling the Constitution unconstitutional. 310205[/snapback] nice one - but sadly quite possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Tate Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 First, international law is a reality that can have binding effect (such as treaties), despite the wishes of xenophobes like Delay. It also can be used as persuasive (non binding) authority. Treaties are supposed to be the job of Congress. Of course, they've been working terribly hard to absolve themselves of their responsibilities, like declare war, so who knows. Second, what F-ing century is Delay from? He is worked up because Kennedy does legal research on the internet? Every attorney under the age of 40 does their research using Westlaw or Lexis. I have not opened a court reporter since first year of law school. I think it is great that Kennedy has adjusted to the times (many older attorneys are intimidated by online research). The main theme of his outrage (OUTRAGE!) is basing decisions on international law vice our constitution - which I would be against as well. Exactly why it would be an outrage (OUTRAGE!) to research what other nations do, and it's effects, is completely beyond me. "he does his own research on the Internet? That is just incredibly outrageous." LOL, Tom Delay thinks I'm incredibly outrageous too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 Treaties are supposed to be the job of Congress. Of course, they've been working terribly hard to absolve themselves of their responsibilities, like declare war, so who knows. 310221[/snapback] The Constitution empowers the President to enter into treaties upon the approval of the Senate. HOWEVER, once the treaty is entered into, it becomes enforceable law. The judiciary is empowered to interpret the law. There is also international common law (for lack of better words). There are many, many cases and a long tradition of Supreme Court cases concerning the "Law of Nations." Whether it be shipping, maritime, trade, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 He's in his Congressional death throes. Next week he'll be calling the Constitution unconstitutional. 310205[/snapback] I thought he already did, with that stupid bill to require the courts to recognize God as the highest source of law... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 First, international law is a reality that can have binding effect (such as treaties), despite the wishes of xenophobes like Delay. It also can be used as persuasive (non binding) authority. Second, what F-ing century is Delay from? He is worked up because Kennedy does legal research on the internet? Every attorney under the age of 40 does their research using Westlaw or Lexis. I have not opened a court reporter since first year of law school. I think it is great that Kennedy has adjusted to the times (many older attorneys are intimidated by online research). Holy cripes, Delay is simply unhinged. 310162[/snapback] He is simply insane, and just plain frightening. It makes me wonder how many Republicans think like him but have better control over their vocal cords. Some flag-bearer for the right. The Internet thing is shocking; what an ass. Even Limbaugh must be contorting to defend this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Go Delay!! Finally someone is standing up to the unqualified Justice Kennedy. Too bad nobody else has the guts to do it. I'm proud of Delay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I thought he already did, with that stupid bill to require the courts to recognize God as the highest source of law... 310250[/snapback] Isn't he also involved trying to write a bill that prevents the courts from interpreting laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Isn't he also involved trying to write a bill that prevents the courts from interpreting laws? 310335[/snapback] Same bill. Though if you talk to some of the window-lickers here he's just trying to right two centuries of judicial dictatorship inflicted by the Marbury v. Madison decision. I know it's illegal to threaten the President, even in jest...but is it likewise illegal to point out that there's nothing wrong with Delay that a bloody head would wouldn't cure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Isn't he also involved trying to write a bill that prevents the courts from interpreting laws? 310335[/snapback] Hopefully that one would make it to the Supreme Court. Tom DeLay is an awful, awful human being and I will be really pleased if he is sh---canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Tom DeLay is an awful, awful human being and I will be really pleased if he is sh---canned. 310717[/snapback] How is he any worse than that murderer Ted Kennedy or the Klansman Byrd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 How is he any worse than that murderer Ted Kennedy or the Klansman Byrd? 310724[/snapback] he is worse because Kennedy's and Byrd's conduct are past acts of supidity and they have admitted they were stupid acts. Delay on the other hand is currently and actively acting as a hateful, fear-mongering, law-breaking, unethical, christian crusader who wants to stevestojan on the Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 he is worse because Kennedy's and Byrd's conduct are past acts of supidity and they have admitted they were stupid acts. Delay on the other hand is currently and actively acting as a hateful, fear-mongering, law-breaking, unethical, christian crusader who wants to stevestojan on the Constitution. 310742[/snapback] Pardon me, but Kennedy never admitted to murder at Chappaquiddick. Yes, Delay's a Christian, therefore he must be hateful, fear-mongering and a crusader, right? Never mind that every one of those stinking cockroaches we call politicians are crooked, thieving bastards. And news flash: they ALL stevestojan on the Constitution, every single fricking day with their Social Securities, their Affirmative Actions, etc... etc... Wake up and smell the corruption, sloth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 Pardon me, but Kennedy never admitted to murder at Chappaquiddick. Yes, Delay's a Christian, therefore he must be hateful, fear-mongering and a crusader, right? Never mind that every one of those stinking cockroaches we call politicians are crooked, thieving bastards. And news flash: they ALL stevestojan on the Constitution, every single fricking day with their Social Securities, their Affirmative Actions, etc... etc... Wake up and smell the corruption, sloth. 310750[/snapback] Fine, I will accept your characterizations of Byrd and Kennedy because I think it is fitting to group him in with a klansman and a murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 How is he any worse than that murderer Ted Kennedy or the Klansman Byrd? 310724[/snapback] Stay on target Red Leader. We're talking about Delay in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 How is he any worse than that murderer Ted Kennedy or the Klansman Byrd? 310724[/snapback] Didn't we just blast the hell out of someone for just this same BS logic concerning reform in the Catholic Church: the idea that A's transgressions are somehow diminished by the completely unrelated failings of B and C? Delay's problems have nothing to do with Kennedy or Byrd. They're Delay's. And let's face it...if the pez-head can't even accept that law can be researched on line these days, it calls into question the idea of whether or not he should be making them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Hopefully that one would make it to the Supreme Court. 310717[/snapback] There's the "beauty" of the bill. It states that any Justice who rules against it is to be removed from his/her position. IMO every assclown who signed off on that piece of crap should be drawn and quartered. Or voted out of office. Either one works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 IMO every assclown who signed off on that piece of crap should be drawn and quartered. Or voted out of office. 310992[/snapback] Or both. Truly disgusting piece of legislative garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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