Mr. WEO Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Well neither has the other guy.....not bothering to notice that both Smoke and Bease had their best season's receiving with Josh Allen. If Josh trusts you you are gonna get fed the ball not sure how that’s related to RB reps, which are determined by the OC, not the QB. Brown arguable had at least as good a season in 2015. And Brown and Beasley were the ONLY viable receivers on the roster last year so it’s not surprising they got most of the targets. 1
John from Riverside Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: not sure how that’s related to RB reps, which are determined by the OC, not the QB. Brown arguable had at least as good a season in 2015. And Brown and Beasley were the ONLY viable receivers on the roster last year so it’s not surprising they got most of the targets. The point is in the video the moron is saying that "Josh Allen is not that guy" when talking about WR's getting there numbers......I am not really talking about the RB's as I agree with you on that point. If WR's that are not true number 1's come to buffalo and improve their numbers in their first year.....then saying Josh Allen is not that guy is idiotic.....he is in fact that guy if veteran wide receiver numbers go UP with Josh Allen and there is no reason to believe that DIggs coudnt have a monster year with Josh Allen......if you get open....Josh will feed you.
JoPoy88 Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The point is in the video the moron is saying that "Josh Allen is not that guy" when talking about WR's getting there numbers......I am not really talking about the RB's as I agree with you on that point. If WR's that are not true number 1's come to buffalo and improve their numbers in their first year.....then saying Josh Allen is not that guy is idiotic.....he is in fact that guy if veteran wide receiver numbers go UP with Josh Allen and there is no reason to believe that DIggs coudnt have a monster year with Josh Allen......if you get open....Josh will feed you. the other guy (not Moats) is trying to say (badly) that the volume isn’t there I think. I totally understand why you’re saying this though it wasn’t clear at all. basically if I can put words in that dude’s mouth it’s: josh allen hasn’t run a high volume passing offense therefore josh allen can’t run a high volume passing offense so Diggs ain’t pro bowl material. I suppose? But we don’t know that yet.
John from Riverside Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: the other guy (not Moats) is trying to say (badly) that the volume isn’t there I think. I totally understand why you’re saying this though it wasn’t clear at all. basically if I can put words in that dude’s mouth it’s: josh allen hasn’t run a high volume passing offense therefore josh allen can’t run a high volume passing offense so Diggs ain’t pro bowl material. I suppose? But we don’t know that yet. That makes more sense.....although I will say that Josh Allen hasnt had the receiving WEAPONS to run an offense like that......he will for sure this next year. 1
Utah John Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 The Bills have game planned to let their defense win, and the offense do enough. This is probably McDermott's plan going forward, too. This year could be different with all the talent upgrades and experience added, but it should happen because the players are better and not because anyone is trying to force things to happen. 12-13 wins and a home playoff game >>>>>> any number of yards and number of PB players.
Thurman#1 Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: If the bills are smart....they are platooning their backs to much for Devin to have a chance for the pro bowl......but Devin is damn good He is indeed. It's exactly because they're going to platoon that he's unlikely to see enough carries. You look at last year's AFC Pro Bowlers, none had 151 carries as Singletary did. None also had Singletary's YPC. There's also a style question. Guys who aren't power backs don't generally get picked unless they get a ton of carries. As you say, though, Singletary is very good.
ghostwriter Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 17 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: DON'T CROSS THE MOATS!!! Bar bet: Who ended Brett Favre's career? I'm a HUGE Arthur Moats fanboy. He is a player who I thought we should have kept. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 He was a senior in my daughter’s freshman year at JMU 1
Mr. WEO Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: The point is in the video the moron is saying that "Josh Allen is not that guy" when talking about WR's getting there numbers......I am not really talking about the RB's as I agree with you on that point. If WR's that are not true number 1's come to buffalo and improve their numbers in their first year.....then saying Josh Allen is not that guy is idiotic.....he is in fact that guy if veteran wide receiver numbers go UP with Josh Allen and there is no reason to believe that DIggs coudnt have a monster year with Josh Allen......if you get open....Josh will feed you. Brown had to split targets with Larry Fitzgerald in AZ (and he still got over 1000in 2015). In Buffalo there was him and a small slot receiver--he had 115 targets. He's a good WR, but Allen didn't have many good target options. His TEs are crappy receivers as a group. If you get open, Josh may feed you...but his sub 60% completion rate will mean he misses your mouth with the spoon a lot and you may go hungry.
machine gun kelly Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 8 hours ago, The Jerk said: Favre didn't like crossing the moat, ya dig? You’re schtick never gets old, ya dig. Keep em coming jerk, sorry “the jerk”. Separate note, sounds like Moats is on the Bills offensive bandwagon. Loved that guy. Hated when we let him go to Pittsburgh, and he had a decent career there.
John from Riverside Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Brown had to split targets with Larry Fitzgerald in AZ (and he still got over 1000in 2015). In Buffalo there was him and a small slot receiver--he had 115 targets. He's a good WR, but Allen didn't have many good target options. His TEs are crappy receivers as a group. If you get open, Josh may feed you...but his sub 60% completion rate will mean he misses your mouth with the spoon a lot and you may go hungry. NFL legit receivers shouldnt always need to be hit right in the mouth
ComradeKayAdams Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 On offense: Allen, Diggs, and Dawkins all have respectable chances. Moss will likely steal too many of Singletary's carries and red zone opportunities needed to generate Pro Bowl numbers. On defense: White is the only obvious one. Hyde, Poyer, and Edmunds all have good chances too. Hughes and Milano are dark horse candidates. Oliver has the physical talent to make it. I really like Vernon Butler in this defense, so I'll offer him as my super sleeper Pro Bowl surprise pick. On special teams: I'm going to throw in Bass as my wild crazy fun pick...IF he makes the roster.
Mr. WEO Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: NFL legit receivers shouldnt always need to be hit right in the mouth I don’t know anyone who is arguing otherwise so that’s beside the point.
John from Riverside Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I don’t know anyone who is arguing otherwise so that’s beside the point. It really is part of the point though WEO We love to complain about Josh Allen throwing a bad ball (or 5) while we ignore that other QBs that are productive do the same exact thing......and their WR's CATCH THE BALL PPL dont call them inaccurate
Mr. WEO Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It really is part of the point though WEO We love to complain about Josh Allen throwing a bad ball (or 5) while we ignore that other QBs that are productive do the same exact thing......and their WR's CATCH THE BALL PPL dont call them inaccurate Like Jameis Winston. Anyway, Allen's career completion is 56%. Not many have been productive with that number. Brining us back to the point you made, Brown having a year similar to his similar best in 2015 is purely a function that he was the only legit option other than Beasley. Going from a #2 or #3 to a #1 is going to get you bigger numbers, career-wise.
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