The War on Whiteness

[Tiberius]

16 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

He is not a racist, everything has become a dogwhistle to the left. That’s what critical race theory is trying to do. They are trying to deconstruct society in order to confuse everyone about meanings to the point no one knows what means anything anymore. It’s an anarchist type of function. The end goal is to have society collapse and the redo society in their image. It’s all about power. This is all in the writing of the post-modernists and subsequently in the writings of the critical race theorists. Do you think it’s working? 

 

You mean with his executive actions? No, all presidents have had questionable executive actions depending on the audience. It’s no worse or better. 
 

What specifically is it that you think is against checks and balances. Do you agree with democrats wanting to remove the filibuster? 

You agree with this thread title, right? 

 

It's no different that the "You will not replace us" from Charlottesvile. Far right 

 

You don't know what actions Trump has taken that violate checks and balances? Yet you are sure Dems, are going to create a Communist dictatorship? Ok 

 

And yes, the filibuster needs to go, its stupid. 

 

We are also going to add two new states 

[Tiberius]

On 7/10/2020 at 1:23 PM, Winston Zeddemore said:

 

Quick, someone tell these people about their white privilege, clearly they haven't been told and that's why they're living on the streets in absolute squalor in the country's second biggest (and one of the most affluent) cities. 

 

 

Racism hurts everyone. White working class people that couldn't get access to health care or other government programs because those that wanted to help them (socialism) lost elections because of race baiting politicians 

 

Racism is used to divide people. That's why Trump is divisive. 

On 7/10/2020 at 11:54 AM, LB3 said:

These communist propaganda murals need to be removed.

Basic human rights are "Communism" 

 

Why? 

[HamSandwhich]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You agree with this thread title, right? 

 

It's no different that the "You will not replace us" from Charlottesvile. Far right 

 

You don't know what actions Trump has taken that violate checks and balances? Yet you are sure Dems, are going to create a Communist dictatorship? Ok 

 

And yes, the filibuster needs to go, its stupid. 

 

We are also going to add two new states 

First, The war in whiteness is happening. Just look at the scholars and their papers. “When a person tells you who they are, believe them the first time” ~ Maya Angelou. It’s all there, you don’t have to dig very far. It’s all a war against whiteness. 
 

Secondly, you’re doing what’s expected of people like you. Generalizing and equating with me being a racist. Unlike those in few in Charlottesville who were actual white supremacists, I don’t believe that one race is superior to another, in fact race would be better if it was a non-factor, not further being made a factor to pit everyone against each other like the left wants to do and the democrats are complying with. Simply live and let live. That’s a dog whistle to you I’ll bet, but no surprise, everything is to the left no matter how rational. Oh wait rationalism and enlightenment values are also racist, right? 
 

Finally, love how you’ll generalize the racist that Trump is without giving any firm examples. Again, it’s all what I would expect from someone of your ideological persuasion. 

[Tiberius]

On 7/10/2020 at 1:16 PM, Kemp said:

 

Yes, he's always been a great friend to the black community. Who can forget his father and him as two of the most racist realtors in NYC? Who can forget his full-page ad against the Central Park Five? Who can forget him refusing to change his mind even when they were exonerated? 

Yes, he is a saint to the black community. That is why he is so beloved by them.
 

It also makes it difficult to explain why he is a darling of white supremacists.

This whole thread is a "You won't replace us" themed whine 

1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said:

First, The war in whiteness is happening. Just look at the scholars and their papers. “When a person tells you who they are, believe them the first time” ~ Maya Angelou. It’s all there, you don’t have to dig very far. It’s all a war against whiteness. 
 

  

I have no idea what this means. Example? 

[HamSandwhich]

9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Racism hurts everyone. White working class people that couldn't get access to health care or other government programs because those that wanted to help them (socialism) lost elections because of race baiting politicians 

 

Racism is used to divide people. That's why Trump is divisive. 

Basic human rights are "Communism" 

 

Why? 

You’re right, racism does hurt everyone. So why is the left trying to create more of it? Socialism has never, will never work. 

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

This whole thread is a "You won't replace us" themed whine 

I have no idea what this means. Example? 

Sure, when I get to my computer, I will get one of the papers from my class that the professor assigned on critical race theory and the battle against “whiteness”. 

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

This whole thread is a "You won't replace us" themed whine 

I have no idea what this means. Example? 

No, the theme is not that, that’s your own interpretation. 

[TH3]

17 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

He is not a racist, everything has become a dogwhistle to the left. 

 

Jeff Foxworthy voice

 

You might be a racist if you post white power videos on your twitter feed

 

You might be a racist if you dont think Trump is racist

Edited July 12, 2020 by TH3

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

 

Secondly, you’re doing what’s expected of people like you. Generalizing and equating with me being a racist. Unlike those in few in Charlottesville who were actual white supremacists, I don’t believe that one race is superior to another, in fact race would be better if it was a non-factor, not further being made a factor to pit everyone against each other like the left wants to do and the democrats are complying with. Simply live and let live. That’s a dog whistle to you I’ll bet, but no surprise, everything is to the left no matter how rational. Oh wait rationalism and enlightenment values are also racist, right?  

I totally agree with this, yet you then claim you are under attack somehow. You actually cliam that if the party that has the concentration of minority voters win, you will end up in a concentration camp ?

4 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

 

Finally, love how you’ll generalize the racist that Trump is without giving any firm examples. Again, it’s all what I would expect from someone of your ideological persuasion. 

Examples? Fine! 

 

Are you going to listen? Scapegoating immigrants as criminals and rapists and murderers. Nazis did that to jews. How about that? He totally demonized this group to fire up people for his election. The wall, screwing around the Dreamers, dismissing a federal judge looking into his criminal fraud scheme as a "Mexican", putting children in cages

 

Do you really think Obama was a foreign born illegal immigrant? That was a totally racist campaign against our first president of color 

[HamSandwhich]

4 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Jeff Foxworthy voice

 

You might be a racist if you post white power videos on your twitter feed

 

You might be a racist if you dont think Trump is racist

Examples? Be as specific as possible and make sure you’re giving me all sides with all possibilities instead of the going narrative. 

[bilzfancy]

4 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Jeff Foxworthy voice

 

You might be a racist if you post white power videos on your twitter feed

 

You might be a racist if you dont think Trump is racist

Trump is no more a racist then Obama 

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

 

No, the theme is not that, that’s your own interpretation. 

Its not? You said white people are headed to the ovens if the multi-cultural Dems win? Huh? 

[SoTier]

17 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

He is not a racist, everything has become a dogwhistle to the left. That’s what critical race theory is trying to do. They are trying to deconstruct society in order to confuse everyone about meanings to the point no one knows what means anything anymore. It’s an anarchist type of function. The end goal is to have society collapse and the redo society in their image. It’s all about power. This is all in the writing of the post-modernists and subsequently in the writings of the critical race theorists. Do you think it’s working?

 

Right-o ... and Hitler wasn't an anti-Semite.

 

[TH3]

4 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Examples? Be as specific as possible and make sure you’re giving me all sides with all possibilities instead of the going narrative. 

 

4 minutes ago, bilzfancy said:

Trump is no more a racist then Obama 

Foxworthy:

 

You might be racists ....simple racists....if all you got is poor deflection

[bilzfancy]

3 minutes ago, TH3 said:

 

Foxworthy:

 

You might be racists ....simple racists....if all you got is poor deflection

Yep, I'm a racist, I hate all non- Italians

[HamSandwhich]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I totally agree with this, yet you then claim you are under attack somehow. You actually cliam that if the party that has the concentration of minority voters win, you will end up in a concentration camp ?

Examples? Fine! 

 

Are you going to listen? Scapegoating immigrants as criminals and rapists and murderers. Nazis did that to jews. How about that? He totally demonized this group to fire up people for his election. The wall, screwing around the Dreamers, dismissing a federal judge looking into his criminal fraud scheme as a "Mexican", putting children in cages

 

Do you really think Obama was a foreign born illegal immigrant? That was a totally racist campaign against our first president of color 

I think Trump does dumb things a lot. You know the answer to the first one, that was a situation where the media played only a small part of the clip and created a narrative. That was not all Mexicans, just bad actors.

 

The wall is needed and a wall. The meaning behind the wall is what the left assigned to it and you bought it hook line and sinker. It’s racist right? A wall can be immoral? Wow. 
 

You know full well why kids were separated. Nothing to do with wanting to specifically take kids away from their parents but because it was the law. Obama did the same thing. It’s nothing I condone but no ones perfect. That’s the problem, everyone has to be perfect in the world of the left. I think it was right to point out the issue there and spotlight it, but the narrative surrounding it was disgusting. 
 

Dreamers, just like the wall, is a value judgement on the individual. You’ve made your stance clear but one or the other is not wrong or right, it just depends on your ideology unfortunately. I think dreamers should be granted citizenship, their parents knowing what they were doing is another story. 

I’m not sure what judge you’re talking about but let me know and I’ll take a look.

 

No I don’t believe in the birther narrative. Let me ask you, what makes that racist? A person who thinks they are not from this country could legitimately think they are not without being racist. That’s another problem with the left. The reason for everything is “racism” which usually misses what’s actually happening. In that way it continues to purpetuatre the issue because the actual crux of the matter is not remedied because...racism. Vicious cycle.

5 minutes ago, TH3 said:

 

Foxworthy:

 

You might be racists ....simple racists....if all you got is poor deflection

How am I deflecting? I’m answering the questions straight away. 

[Tiberius]

14 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Somebody in Washington or a group of somebody's are going to have to be the adults in the room before too long.  The political divide in America is much about money with the left wanting gargantuan additional government benefits in the name of "fairness".  There simply aren't enough tax dollars even at unreasonable tax rates to fund into perpetuity SS, Medicare, Medicaid, free college, free health care for all and whatever else I'm missing that the left wants.  I don't think the majority of Americans anytime soon will be willing to hand over their health insurance premiums to the government in exchange for medicare for all.  The rate of debt accumulation is substantially faster than GDP growth and this is without these newly wanted benefits.  Only 1% interest rates are temporarily easing this pain.  At some point rates rise and even worse potentially is a souring of demand for U.S. treasuries for any number of reasons economic or geopolitical. 

 

Trump and Pelosi are playing like it's monopoly money at atrocious levels on the heels of Obama who did same.  Trump in this regard is the worst ever  He loves his GDP number and seems to care about little else.   Will he make debt reduction a part of his 2020 platform?  Seems doubtful.  Frankly the fiscal planning and management at the federal level is embarrassing.  This government never right sizes and it's hardly a left vs right problem.  Both parties take turns sucking at this. 

 

While academics and pundits talk about ratios and percentages, none of that will matter when the raw numbers inflict pain.

 

Here's a link with a bunch of info and these numbers don't include pandemic stimuli and the ensuing revenue loss due to the interruption of the economy. 

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/56073

 

 

 

The money supply has proven itself to be pretty flexible. When the Dems do get hold of power, health care will be expanded, and those benefitting the most might just be rural whites. 

[HamSandwhich]

12 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Its not? You said white people are headed to the ovens if the multi-cultural Dems win? Huh? 

I did not say that, I’m saying it’s moving in the direction of what happened in the book, not that it will happen if they are elected straight away. Hopefully cooler heads prevail but no the signs are there. The upper class/rich people are all whites, “the other”, that needs to be overthrown. Dems continue to stoke that hate. What do you think is the logical end to that. I’ll hear you out.

15 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Right-o ... and Hitler wasn't an anti-Semite.

 

Right-o, false equivocation = par for the course for people of your ilk.

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

 

 

 

No I don’t believe in the birther narrative. Let me ask you, what makes that racist?  

It's a racist smear, as if he doesn't belong 

[HamSandwhich]

16 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Its not? You said white people are headed to the ovens if the multi-cultural Dems win? Huh? 

Also, I’ll fully admit, this is my own opinion. I’m not trying to demand and shout down other ideologies like those on the left. I’ll put my opinion out there and let the best idea and understanding win.

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

It's a racist smear, as if he doesn't belong 

It’s not so just because you say it is. I’ll challenge you to give me your reasoning on it. 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said:

I did not say that, I’m saying it’s moving in the direction of what happened in the book, not that it will happen if they are elected straight away. Hopefully cooler heads prevail but no the signs are there. The upper class/rich people are all whites, “the other”, that needs to be overthrown. Dems continue to stoke that hate. What do you think is the logical end to that. I’ll hear you out.

 

Why bring up concentration camps in relation to the Democratic party? 

 

That's no different than John C Calhoun saying that if the slaves were freed the whites would then be slaves in the 1850s. Has a democratically elected government, of long standing,  ever degenerated into a communist dictorship with concentration camps? 

[HamSandwhich]

I’ll get you that article but I have to step away for a bit, don’t take that as me giving up and throwing in the towel. Having a 1 year old and a 3 year old is hard to work. Talk soon.