The War on Whiteness

[HamSandwhich]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Are you considering escaping to another country? 

If it gets bad enough, it’s heading that way. However, I will continue to fight it at this point and hopefully it never gets to the point that a gun is pointed at my and my kids heads for being seen as a rich privileged person (I’m not) gleaned from the fact that my skin is white. It’s scary. They also give us no way out. What do people do when they are backed into the wall with no way out? If you say you’re not racist, it’s internalized and you’re racist. Why would anyone be ok with that?

 

That dumb white fragility book is all about the authors own feelings on situations. She then projects that to all white people and says if you’re white you’re racist. No matter what. This book was recently best selling book. It’s accelerating exponentially and if reasoned and cool heads don’t prevail, I fear there could be quite a blowback that this country will never recover from. You don’t see it though, do you? 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

If it gets bad enough, it’s heading that way. However, I will continue to fight it at this point and hopefully it never gets to the point that a gun is pointed at my and my kids heads for being seen as a rich privileged person (I’m not) gleaned from the fact that my skin is white. It’s scary. They also give us no way out. What do people do when they are backed into the wall with no way out? If you say you’re not racist, it’s internalized and you’re racist. Why would anyone be ok with that?

 

That dumb white fragility book is all about the authors own feelings on situations. She then projects that to all white people and says if you’re white you’re racist. No matter what. This book was recently best selling book. It’s accelerating exponentially and if reasoned and cool heads don’t prevail, I fear there could be quite a blowback that this country will never recover from. You don’t see it though, do you? 

No I don’t. 

 

I have no idea what book you are talking about. You feel physically threatened? By who and what? 

[HamSandwhich]

On 7/10/2020 at 9:19 AM, dickleyjones said:

These threads are all the same: a bunch of people with strong opinions based on what they are told to think, whilst being unwilling to truly listen to others who are contrary. It is a shame.

Well, I’ll tell you that’s not me. Ive gone through radical self reflection, challenging all of my beliefs with others ideas. I can say, without a doubt, that I am well educated on all sides. The quasi-scientific left is definitely going to be the downfall of society if it does not get reversed. Take it for what it’s worth as you don’t know me personally. I’ve been into the belly of the beast with my education and have seen what they’re teaching. Critical race theory/intersectionality are laced throughout the curriculum, even in STEM. It’s not going to end well if it continues this way I fear. 

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No I don’t. 

 

I have no idea what book you are talking about. You feel physically threatened? By who and what? 

Give it a read and you’ll understand. The guy who wrote it was in the gulags himself and lived through it. Worth a read to understand the direction this country is going. We’ve seen this story before and it’s all laid out in that book. 
 

Why do you think the bourgeoisie were killed? 

Edited July 11, 2020 by HamSandwhich

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said:

Well, I’ll tell you that’s not me. Ive gone through radical self reflection, challenging all of my beliefs with others ideas. I can say, without a doubt, that I am well educated on all sides. The quasi-scientific left is definitely going to be the downfall of society if it does not get reversed. Take it for what it’s worth as you don’t know me personally. I’ve been into the belly of the beast with my education and have seen what they’re teaching. Critical race theory/intersectionality are laced throughout the curriculum, even in STEM. It’s not going to end well if it continues this way I fear. 

Give it a read and you’ll understand. The guy who wrote it was in the gulags himself and lived through it. Worth a read to understand the direction this country is going. 

Oh, Solzhenitsyn book? From communist Russia? You think that’s what coming here? Come on 

[HamSandwhich]

4 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Well, I’ll tell you that’s not me. Ive gone through radical self reflection, challenging all of my beliefs with others ideas. I can say, without a doubt, that I am well educated on all sides. The quasi-scientific left is definitely going to be the downfall of society if it does not get reversed. Take it for what it’s worth as you don’t know me personally. I’ve been into the belly of the beast with my education and have seen what they’re teaching. Critical race theory/intersectionality are laced throughout the curriculum, even in STEM. It’s not going to end well if it continues this way I fear. 

Give it a read and you’ll understand. The guy who wrote it was in the gulags himself and lived through it. Worth a read to understand the direction this country is going. 

 

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh, Solzhenitsyn book? From communist Russia? You think that’s what coming here? Come on 

Think through it. Don’t just write it off. The bourgeoisie, what were they hated for? What do the left think about whites? Privileged, rich, and hold all the power. They see us as a monolith by their words and actions and we are all of the above. That’s why the bourgeoisie had to die. 
 

they were seen as “the other” and the intersectional/critical theory types try to do the same and are succeeding recently. 

Edited July 11, 2020 by HamSandwhich

[bilzfancy]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh, Solzhenitsyn book? From communist Russia? You think that’s what coming here? Come on 

  you go socialist first, can communism be far behind?

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said:

 

Think through it. Don’t just write it off. The bourgeoisie, what were they hated for? What do the left think about whites? Privileged, rich, and hold all the power. They see us as a monolith by their words and actions and we are all of the above. That’s why the bourgeoisie had to die. 
 

they were seen as “the other” and the intersectional/critical theory types try to do the same and are succeeding recently. 

The Democratic Party is going to do this? 

[HamSandwhich]

1 minute ago, bilzfancy said:

  you go socialist first, can communism be far behind?

It’s never far behind, it’s the logical end. When resources run out from the government and inflation starts, the government cracks down and communism begins. Fascist communism. 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, bilzfancy said:

  you go socialist first, can communism be far behind?

Civil and political rights have been expanding, largely due to Democrats and Liberals. I don’t see the trend you are referring to 

[HamSandwhich]

Just now, Tiberius said:

The Democratic Party is going to do this? 

If they continue to side with the left. If we move back to the traditional liberal, then that would be great. We need to be middle of the road, we’re too polarized and the democrats seem all to happy to go along if it gets Trump out of office. They’re playing a VERY dangerous game.

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said:

It’s never far behind, it’s the logical end. When resources run out from the government and inflation starts, the government cracks down and communism begins. Fascist communism. 

So Russia’s historic colllaspe from Czar to Communism is relevant to our situation? Huh? That makes no sense at all 

[HamSandwhich]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Civil and political rights have been expanding, largely due to Democrats and Liberals. I don’t see the trend you are referring to 

What do you think socialism is? What do you think the call for equality actually means? Redistribution is wealth is right at the top. Over regulation of the means of production, right there too. They have only been stymied in their attempts to do this by the republicans in the way. If they take over the presidency and congress, we will see a rapid movement towards socialism, especially if they get rid of the filibuster as some on the Dems have vowed to do. Easy to see. 

[Tiberius]

Just now, HamSandwhich said:

If they continue to side with the left. If we move back to the traditional liberal, then that would be great. We need to be middle of the road, we’re too polarized and the democrats seem all to happy to go along if it gets Trump out of office. They’re playing a VERY dangerous game.

The only ones playing a dangerous game are the law breakers using power to break more laws. 

 

We are a republic of laws, Trump is the antithesis of that ideal. 

 

This is a thread about race race and you are accusing the multicultural party if being evil, of literally of being mass murder. Yet, Trump extra legal actions are ok? The white nationalist leader is ok, right? 

1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said:

What do you think socialism is? What do you think the call for equality actually means? Redistribution is wealth is right at the top. Over regulation of the means of production, right there too. They have only been stymied in their attempts to do this by the republicans in the way. If they take over the presidency and congress, we will see a rapid movement towards socialism, especially if they get rid of the filibuster as some on the Dems have vowed to do. Easy to see. 

Governments have always redistributed income and wealth, that’s what they do. So once we get power, as we will, you see the end of America? 

[HamSandwhich]

Just now, Tiberius said:

The only ones playing a dangerous game are the law breakers using power to break more laws. 

 

We are a republic of laws, Trump is the antithesis of that ideal. 

 

This is a thread about race race and you are accusing the multicultural party if being evil, of literally of being mass murder. Yet, Trump extra legal actions are ok? The white nationalist leader is ok, right? 

You’re putting words in my mouth. I said they were moving towards that.

I also know how dangerous the far right can be (Trump is not far right btw, the media tries to paint him as one because the need to paint dissenters as “the other”), but right now, the far left is much more dangerous. It’s not even close.

[Tiberius]

Just now, HamSandwhich said:

You’re putting words in my mouth. I said they were moving towards that.

I also know how dangerous the far right can be (Trump is not far right btw, the media tries to paint him as one because the need to paint dissenters as “the other”), but right now, the far left is much more dangerous. It’s not even close.

Trump’s not far right?? Really? 

 

Is he a racist? Is he a fraudster with Trump University? 

 

Does Trump violate checks and balances? 

 

 

[HamSandwhich]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So Russia’s historic colllaspe from Czar to Communism is relevant to our situation? Huh? That makes no sense at all 

You’re being far too simplistic which is not surprising for someone who sympathises with the Left. Propaganda necessitates simplicity and easily understood rhetoric that sounds wonderful and that no one could disagree with (black lives matter/anti-racism). Just look for a second under the thin skin and you’ll find it’s a house of cards designed to gain power for their group. It’s all about power.

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

The only ones playing a dangerous game are the law breakers using power to break more laws. 

 

We are a republic of laws, Trump is the antithesis of that ideal. 

 

This is a thread about race race and you are accusing the multicultural party if being evil, of literally of being mass murder. Yet, Trump extra legal actions are ok? The white nationalist leader is ok, right? 

Governments have always redistributed income and wealth, that’s what they do. So once we get power, as we will, you see the end of America? 

I’m for smaller government and less distribution and more freedom. Both parties suck, they both attempt to gain and consolidate power. The right says they are the party of small government yet government continues to grow under them too. 

[HamSandwhich]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump’s not far right?? Really? 

 

Is he a racist? Is he a fraudster with Trump University? 

 

Does Trump violate checks and balances? 

 

 

He is not a racist, everything has become a dogwhistle to the left. That’s what critical race theory is trying to do. They are trying to deconstruct society in order to confuse everyone about meanings to the point no one knows what means anything anymore. It’s an anarchist type of function. The end goal is to have society collapse and the redo society in their image. It’s all about power. This is all in the writing of the post-modernists and subsequently in the writings of the critical race theorists. Do you think it’s working? 

 

You mean with his executive actions? No, all presidents have had questionable executive actions depending on the audience. It’s no worse or better. 
 

What specifically is it that you think is against checks and balances. Do you agree with democrats wanting to remove the filibuster? 

[Nanker]

Stop feeding the communist trolls. Especially the one from German extraction that lies about his slave-owning ancestors. 
 

[keepthefaith]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

The only ones playing a dangerous game are the law breakers using power to break more laws. 

 

We are a republic of laws, Trump is the antithesis of that ideal. 

 

This is a thread about race race and you are accusing the multicultural party if being evil, of literally of being mass murder. Yet, Trump extra legal actions are ok? The white nationalist leader is ok, right? 

Governments have always redistributed income and wealth, that’s what they do. So once we get power, as we will, you see the end of America? 

 

Somebody in Washington or a group of somebody's are going to have to be the adults in the room before too long.  The political divide in America is much about money with the left wanting gargantuan additional government benefits in the name of "fairness".  There simply aren't enough tax dollars even at unreasonable tax rates to fund into perpetuity SS, Medicare, Medicaid, free college, free health care for all and whatever else I'm missing that the left wants.  I don't think the majority of Americans anytime soon will be willing to hand over their health insurance premiums to the government in exchange for medicare for all.  The rate of debt accumulation is substantially faster than GDP growth and this is without these newly wanted benefits.  Only 1% interest rates are temporarily easing this pain.  At some point rates rise and even worse potentially is a souring of demand for U.S. treasuries for any number of reasons economic or geopolitical. 

 

Trump and Pelosi are playing like it's monopoly money at atrocious levels on the heels of Obama who did same.  Trump in this regard is the worst ever  He loves his GDP number and seems to care about little else.   Will he make debt reduction a part of his 2020 platform?  Seems doubtful.  Frankly the fiscal planning and management at the federal level is embarrassing.  This government never right sizes and it's hardly a left vs right problem.  Both parties take turns sucking at this. 

 

While academics and pundits talk about ratios and percentages, none of that will matter when the raw numbers inflict pain.

 

Here's a link with a bunch of info and these numbers don't include pandemic stimuli and the ensuing revenue loss due to the interruption of the economy. 

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/56073

 

 

 

[I-town Bills]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

No I don’t. 

 

I have no idea what book you are talking about. You feel physically threatened? By who and what? 

We need to lift everyone up and bring them along. Protesters aren't studying Marx, they just want some deceny and humanity. Don't deny their humanity.