The War on Whiteness

[Westside]

5 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

thank you.  the words "good", "decent" and "fight" used together sounded a lot like trump before Jan 6.  Wondering if white supremacist groups like proud boys or KKK are composed of good, decent people in your opinion.  the comment about giving and doing unto others would suggest not.  Do good, decent people use violence if they aren't winning within the rules?

Ask Antifa and BLM

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, Westside said:

Ask Antifa and BLM

rioting and violence are generally not a sign of good and decent people of any political stripe imo.  do you agree?

[Westside]

31 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

rioting and violence are generally not a sign of good and decent people of any political stripe imo.  do you agree?

Absolutely, it would be nice if your side actually called them out on it. So you're admitting antifa and blm are a real threat to this country?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

25 minutes ago, Westside said:

Absolutely, it would be nice if your side actually called them out on it. So you're admitting antifa and blm are a real threat to this country?

I think any group that tries to solve societal problems thru violence is a threat.  If they try to eliminate violent members that mitigates it some.  If they don't, they are enemies of society and of good, decent people who play by the rules.

Edited June 12, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Westside]

3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I think any group that tries to solve societal problems thru violence is a threat.  If they try to eliminate violent members that mitigates it some.  If they don't, they are enemies of society and of good, decent people who play by the rules.

I agree. We need to stop thinking about which side we're on and start thinking about being Americans. We should expect and demand more from our politicians we elected to serve there country, not there bank accounts. Both sides are dirty as hell. Arguing over which one is worse is just plain stupid. There is too much blood on the hands of both parties. They've outlived their usefulness.  Time to tear down the current political parties and go back to what this country was founded on and stands for. Enough fighting, time to take back our government.

[Tiberius]

13 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

You are a frigging a??

It makes part of who we are but I do not apologize or pay reparations to you or anyone for something I did not do or now support.

My ancestors were murder by the Iroquois, do they owe me?

Rosa Parks is an important event that changed us for the better, but it does not make anyone superior. 

I vote on today's issues, not last century.

We are who we are because of the past but we are not responsible nor can we take credit for it.

1 person attending college was then important be not relevant today.

 

Trump is the biggest liar, manipulative a?? I have seen in American public life.

But he has beaten you by making you obsessive.

No one is asking you to do any of that, just seems odd you melted down over the post

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

thank you.  the words "good", "decent" and "fight" used together sounded a lot like trump before Jan 6.  Wondering if white supremacist groups like proud boys or KKK are composed of good, decent people in your opinion.  the comment about giving and doing unto others would suggest not.  Do good, decent people use violence if they aren't winning within the rules?

Do I agree with Jan 6 people or trump on storming capital or falsified elections, no

 

Do I think there is a double standard when it comes to how the DoJ prosecutes offenders based on political alignment-  100% 

 

White supremacist groups? Just like this board and it’s cults, I suspect there are a handful of legitimately coercive manipulators in control that latch on to the minds of some feeble sheep just looking for someone to tell them what to think. And all the racially charged left railing about how bad white males are plays right into their hands. 
 

And by fighting back, for example I’m seeing our PTA ramp up a very factual communication campaign addressing concerns that a new administration focused on CRT over academics has triggered mass resignations in our excellent elementary school. And my community is extremely diverse but value education and are very engaged with staff. There is a lot of passion about this. 

[Niagara Bill]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No one is asking you to do any of that, just seems odd you melted down over the post

Melted down?

You accuse me of being a trumper!

It is never surprising you melt down over trump almost daily.

I get sick of the extreme left like you accusing me of wrong doing.

Not everyone in North America supported slavery, in fact 1/2 of the US went to war to stop it and 10s of thousands lost their lives doing so.

Never heard BLM say thanks.

One bad cop kills a black man with his knee and every other cop is a racist.

Of course 1 gang banger shoots a 4 yr old and every other gang banger is just misunderstood, according to the left. 

I am as middle ground as anyone on the board. 

San Francisco of the 60s I loved, San Francisco of the 2020s I hate.

I loved NYC  in the 1990s, NYC now, disgusting, who created these problems.

Extreme liberalism is not 1 ounce better than extreme right positions.

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[BillStime]

15 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

without shoving yours in their face,

Maybe if your cult leaders stopped passing laws to further marginalize women, blacks, and LGTBQ you might not have to see these things shoved in your face.

 

These idiots never self reflect or think.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Do I agree with Jan 6 people or trump on storming capital or falsified elections, no

 

Do I think there is a double standard when it comes to how the DoJ prosecutes offenders based on political alignment-  100% 

 

White supremacist groups? Just like this board and it’s cults, I suspect there are a handful of legitimately coercive manipulators in control that latch on to the minds of some feeble sheep just looking for someone to tell them what to think. And all the racially charged left railing about how bad white males are plays right into their hands. 
 

And by fighting back, for example I’m seeing our PTA ramp up a very factual communication campaign addressing concerns that a new administration focused on CRT over academics has triggered mass resignations in our excellent elementary school. And my community is extremely diverse but value education and are very engaged with staff. There is a lot of passion about this. 

much to unpack...for the first line, I'm relieved.  There are those here that disagree.  There are many nationally that disagree, unfortunately.  And their reasoning seems to be the same as your original post:  tired of being marginalized.  I get it and agree violence is counterproductive.

 

Handful of manipulators?  Agreed.  Except they are especially proficient and immoral at this time...eg trump.  He's an absolute master at it.  I'll wait for the what about Biden reply but he's just not the conman and manipulator trump is.  at any rate, it's sad to witness such a huge swath of American society that is so susceptible to this crap.  very worrisome for the future.

 

Finally, there are several members of my family who are teachers and I know many in the community.  I don't hear them complain about CRT.  I hear them complain about poor pay, lack of respect, overbearing parents and constant criticism.

Edited June 12, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

focused on CRT over academics

Just another pathetic simp…

[SoCal Deek]

26 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Maybe if your cult leaders stopped passing laws to further marginalize women, blacks, and LGTBQ you might not have to see these things shoved in your face.

 

These idiots never self reflect or think.

 

 

Let me see if I understand you correctly. In short, everyone is an ‘idiot’ if they don’t agree with you. 
 

Thanks for clearing that up! Your work is done here. Please check back in a few months. 

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Let me see if I understand you correctly. In short, everyone is an ‘idiot’ if they don’t agree with you. 
 

Thanks for clearing that up! Your work is done here. Please check back in a few months. 

 

No, idiots are those who can't think for themselves.

 

Keep up sunshine.

 

[SoCal Deek]

16 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

No, idiots are those who can't think for themselves.

 

Keep up sunshine.

 

Thanks…. It’s actually pretty cloudy out here in June, and we’ve now had two straight months where the daily high temperature has yet to reach the seasonal ‘normal’. Darn Climate Change! 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

12 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

 I don't hear them complain about CRT.  

It not an everywhere problem, but it’s now a my elementary school problem. My wife is in education consulting and deep into the administration of several of the Dc Maryland and Virginia districts. my neighbor works in the county administration office, my son best friend’s parents I spend every weekend in the bleachers with are middle school teachers and team leaders both. 

 

Our schools is 60% Asian so this isn’t some right conspiracy. And 20%+ of the staff is leaving at the end of this school year because the new principal is pushing equity and anti racism, and alternative sociology over academics. this is coming from the departing staff directly to the parents. The prior principal didn’t and was also data driven, academically focussed and excellent, and paid less mind to the political agenda up the chain. 
 

these are the most conscientious and involved partners I’ve ever seen, and it’s a fact great teachers are leaving and curriculum is deteriorating. For some they are appalled they left communist China for this American dream? 
 

It’s real and it’s just a stupid political movement of morons, the morons who believe it and the sycophants who are gaslit into believing it’s not real. 

4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Thanks…. It’s actually pretty cloudy out here in June, and we’ve now had two straight months where the daily high temperature has yet to reach the seasonal ‘normal’. Darn Climate Change! 

when I was out there over the holiday weekend every single person was apologetic about the terrible weather 😂 

 

68 and partially cloudy or something..

[Pokebball]

57 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Maybe if your cult leaders stopped passing laws to further marginalize women, blacks, and LGTBQ you might not have to see these things shoved in your face.

 

These idiots never self reflect or think.

 

 

You really need to consider that there is another party involved in every one of these decisions. All laws are written to protect one party from another party; not to just be mean to one party. There is a balance and every law attempts to strike that balance. Think about the other human being.

[All_Pro_Bills]

6 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

You really need to consider that there is another party involved in every one of these decisions. All laws are written to protect one party from another party; not to just be mean to one party. There is a balance and every law attempts to strike that balance. Think about the other human being.

Unless you delude yourself into believing you are always championing the cause of some oppressed and silenced group and anyone that dares to express an opposing view represents evil which must be vanquished by any means necessary. 

 

That's the mindset of the people you're debating with here. 

Edited June 12, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills

[BillStime]

13 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

You really need to consider that there is another party involved in every one of these decisions. All laws are written to protect one party from another party; not to just be mean to one party. There is a balance and every law attempts to strike that balance. Think about the other human being.

 

Your party politics in the gutter. It's the only thing to keep pathetic simps like you "engaged."

 

[Pokebball]

6 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Your party politics in the gutter. It's the only thing to keep pathetic simps like you "engaged."

 

and you? What's keeping you engaged?