Rob's House Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 A fringe totalitarian movement to eliminate cash is being pushed into the mainstream. It's justified under the guise of public health and economic efficiency, but it is one of the most terrifying propositions ever to enter the conversation and must be stamped out immediately. It will no doubt be embraced by those who have undying trust in the virtue of government, and accepted by those who can't see beneath the surface level of the issue. It will be easy to snow the unsuspecting masses who rarely use cash, so the warning bells must be rung before they've been duped. The following is a copy/paste that doesn't really get to the more disastrous implications, but lays out a lot of the issues that the average Joe hasn't considered. "A cashless society means no cash. Zero. It doesn’t mean mostly cashless and you can still use a ‘wee bit of cash here & there’. Cashless means fully digital, fully traceable, fully controlled. I think those who support a cashless society aren’t fully aware of what they are asking for. A cashless society means: * If you are struggling with your mortgage on a particular month, you can’t do an odd job to get you through. * Your child can’t go & help the local farmer to earn a bit of summer cash. * No more cash slipped into the hands of a child as a good luck charm or from their grandparent when going on holidays. * No more money in birthday cards. * No more piggy banks for your child to collect pocket money & to learn about the value of earning. * No more cash for a rainy day fund or for that something special you have been putting $20 a week away for. * No more little jobs on the side because your wages barely cover the bills or put food on the table. * No more charity collections. * No more selling bits & pieces from your home that you no longer want/need for a bit of cash in return. * No more cash gifts from relatives or loved ones. What a cashless society does guarantee: * Banks have full control of every single penny you own. * Every transaction you make is recorded. * All your movements & actions are traceable. * Access to your money can be blocked at the click of a button when/if banks need ‘clarification’ from you which will take about 3 weeks, a thousand questions answered & five thousand passwords. * You will have no choice but to declare & be taxed on every dollar in your possession. * The government WILL decide what you can & cannot purchase. * If your transactions are deemed in any way questionable, by those who create the questions, your money will be frozen, ‘for your own good’. Forget about cash being dirty. Stop being so easily led. Cash has been around for a very, very, very long time & it gives you control over how you trade with the world. It gives you independence. I heard a story where a man supposedly contracted Covid because of a $20 bill he had handled. There is the same chance of Covid being on a card as being on cash. If you cannot see how utterly ridiculous this assumption is then there is little hope. If you are a customer, pay with cash. If you are a shop owner, remove those ridiculous signs that ask people to pay by card. Cash is a legal tender, it is our right to pay with cash. Banks are making it increasingly difficult to lodge cash & that has nothing to do with a virus, nor has this ‘dirty money’ trend. Please open your eyes. Please stop believing everything you are being told. Almost every single topic in today’s world is tainted with corruption & hidden agendas. Please stop telling me & others like me that we are what’s wrong with the world when you hail the most corrupt members of society as your heroes. Politics & greed is what is wrong with the world; not those who are trying to alert you to the reality in which you are blindly floating along whilst being immobilised by irrational fear. Fear created to keep you doing & believing in exactly what you are complacently doing. Pay with cash & please say no to a cashless society while you still have the choice." 5 1 6 4
LB3 Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 Weird. Just a week or so ago, I was at self checkout and they told me it was cards only. They said there's a national coin shortage. 2 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, LB3 said: Weird. Just a week or so ago, I was at self checkout and they told me it was cards only. They said there's a national coin shortage. Yes! I heard this too. This whole situation just reeks of something horrible. 3 1
Reality Check Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 A cashless society has been the plan for a long time... not good... 1
B-Man Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 The Federal Reserve website states that cash is "a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law which says otherwise." However, Cash equals Freedom. That's why some want to take it away from us. Every electronic transaction you make will be looked at by Big Brother. How long before you are told "You can't buy that! It adds to global warming!" or some other made up excuse. Every last shred of freedom we have will disappear if cash is banned. It's part of the agenda being fueled by the pandemic. 6
LB3 Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Yes! I heard this too. This whole situation just reeks of something horrible. https://www.bibleref.com/Revelation/13/Revelation-13-17.html
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, LB3 said: https://www.bibleref.com/Revelation/13/Revelation-13-17.html I am aware of that, yes. I don't generally like to talk eschatology around unbelievers, but yes. 1
BillStime Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: The Federal Reserve website states that cash is "a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law which says otherwise." However, Cash equals Freedom. That's why some want to take it away from us. Every electronic transaction you make will be looked at by Big Brother. How long before you are told "You can't buy that! It adds to global warming!" or some other made up excuse. Every last shred of freedom we have will disappear if cash is banned. It's part of the agenda being fueled by the pandemic. Coming from the party of Law and Order... Paranoid freaks.
B-Man Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 https://www.forbes.com/sites/billhardekopf/2020/02/24/is-a-cashless-society-good-for-america/#32fb2d547283 FTA: Drawbacks of Eliminating Cash Despite the potential benefits of going cashless, the biggest drawback would be the cost. Merchants pay interchange fees for all card-based transactions. This cuts into their profit and could force merchants to pass this burden on to consumers by increasing prices. Data breaches are another cause of concern in a cashless society. If all transactions are processed in a digital form, payment information becomes significantly more vulnerable. Research shows that 62% of U.S. retailers have experienced a data breach, and 37% have had one within the last year. Merchants would have to increase security measures to combat these risks, and those costs could once again be passed to the consumer. Not all Americans have the means to eliminate cash. The 2017 FDIC National Survey showed that 25.2% of U.S. households are unbanked or underbanked. Additionally, 22% of Americans do not have a credit card. Those who currently rely on cash could transition to prepaid cards, but some of those cards come with a myriad of fees that are not required for cash and debit transactions. Legal Hurdles for a Cashless Society Even if a cashless society was good for America, there are legislations in place at this time to prevent that. Several states and cities have existing or proposed laws requiring merchants to accept cash. New Jersey, Massachusetts and Philadelphia have active rules banning cashless stores. Washington state, Chicago, New York City, and San Francisco are working on similar efforts. The law in Massachusetts states that "no retail establishment offering goods and services for sale shall discriminate against a cash buyer by requiring the use of credit." That discrimination may be one of the greatest barriers to eliminating cash. The Verdict: Is a Cashless Society Good for America? While there are many perks to going cashless, 82% of Americans still carry cash. The reasons range from tipping to budget management to emergency funding, but the real reason may ultimately come down to familiarity. Cash is tangible, quantifiable, and reliable. If the Internet is down, the power goes out, or a system gets hacked, cash is there to cover the transaction. No matter how much we transition to digital and card-based payments, cash would seem to have a place in America for the foreseeable future. 1
KRC Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 Wouldn't a cash-less society hurt the poor more than anyone? What type of credit cards (interest rates) are they going to get if they are struggling to pay their bills now? 3 2
bilzfancy Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 Mark of the beast, people, we are truly in the end timed
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) If we went cashless conservatives could stop bitching about Obama's pallet of cash he sent to Iran. That would be a positive. Realistically, though, to go cashless would take decades of coordination between all levels of government. The federal government cannot even coordinate with itself at this point. All things considered, I do agree a cashless society gets us closer to a dystopia than a utopia. I also see no problem with private businesses being credit/card only because of Covid-19. Edited July 9, 2020 by wAcKy ZeBrA
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, LB3 said: Weird. Just a week or so ago, I was at self checkout and they told me it was cards only. They said there's a national coin shortage. There is no national coin shortage, and if there were, it would be reason in and of itself to abolish the Federal Reserve. 2 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: There is no national coin shortage, and if there were, it would be reason in and of itself to abolish the Federal Reserve. And yet, I saw a sign just yesterday in a shop that proclaimed it as such. Interesting, no?
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: And yet, I saw a sign just yesterday in a shop that proclaimed it as such. You should have seen the bull#### I used to write on the tip jar sign. None of it was real
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: You should have seen the bull#### I used to write on the tip jar sign. None of it was real This was a typed form, distributed by Wawa, Inc. to the branch I go to occasionally. Legit. 1
LB3 Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: This was a typed form, distributed by Wawa, Inc. to the branch I go to occasionally. Legit. https://www.phillyvoice.com/wawa-exact-change-coin-shortage-payment-federal-reserve-us-mint-covid-19-coronavirus/ 1
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: This was a typed form, distributed by Wawa, Inc. to the branch I go to occasionally. Legit. Interesting. Found this on a quick Google. I missed that Fed Reserve announcement. https://www.wfla.com/mobile/wawa-asks-customers-to-use-exact-change-amid-nationwide-coin-shortage/ The plea comes after the Federal Reserve announced a nationwide coin shortage, saying shutdown orders have significantly disrupted the supply chain and normal circulation for quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies. “In the past few months, coin deposits from depository institutions to the Federal Reserve have declined significantly and the U.S. Mint’s production of coin also decreased due to measures put in place to protect its employees. Federal Reserve coin orders from depository institutions have begun to increase as regions reopen, resulting in the Federal Reserve’s coin inventory being reduced to below normal levels,” the central bank said in a statement. Wawa is letting customers round up purchases to the nearest dollar so they can donate to local charities through The Wawa Foundation. The chain says 100% of all donations will go to charity.
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