Chef Jim Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, ALF said: Teachers are so worried about returning to school that they're preparing wills https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/us/coronavirus-teachers-preparing-wills/index.html Throw in flu season and it is more stress So let me get this straight? So the fear of death is having people do planning? I have a newsflash for them. We're all gonna die and we don't know when. 1 hour ago, B-Man said: That is not true. I would have asked him to define "a ton". 47 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: As adults, they should already have had a will. If this is the nudge they needed to have their families (and assets) protected after their death, well, ok. I hope they got a living will while they are at it. Not to pick a nit but a will does very little to protect your assets after death. It's better than intestate but it will still be a mess.
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Not to pick a nit but a will does very little to protect your assets after death. It's better than intestate but it will still be a mess. We have trusts, but for most people a will is better than nothing. (I say that as the cost of a trust to be set-up can be prohibitive for some people.) Edited July 16, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal
Chef Jim Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: We have trusts, but for most people a will is better than nothing. Correct but it will (no pun intended) be a mess with probate. I work with an estate attorney so tells people who don't want to do a trust that he'll gladly probate their estate. He will make a *****-ton (legal term) more money. People are very uneducated on these things.
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: Correct but it will (no pun intended) be a mess with probate. I work with an estate attorney so tells people who don't want to do a trust that he'll gladly probate their estate. He will make a *****-ton (legal term) more money. People are very uneducated on these things. I edited to add the cost of making a trust can be prohibitive for some people. 1
Chef Jim Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I edited to add the cost of making a trust can be prohibitive for some people. I also tell the same attorney just show them the rate of return on the cost of the trust. $2,000 trust today could save $100's of thousands in probate down the road. I usually highly recommend against them but there are paid legal firms that do them relatively cheaply. It's up to you to fund these trusts however which is key. If you don't fund your trust you spent a lot of money for a nice binder of paper. 1
Kwai San Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 On 7/10/2020 at 1:48 AM, KD in CA said: No one (or at least I’m not) is saying open up as if there was no virus. Obviously there needs to be significant workarounds. But using the ‘kids might die’ excuse is b.s. If a particular kid has a serious medical condition than that kid should stay home. Otherwise, kids are not dying from COVID. If individuals deem it too risky to family members to sent kids to school, they always have the option to home school. If school districts want to accommodate distance learning for those people, great, have at it. If a certain teacher is high risk, hire a sub. But not opening schools because there is some risk or because it’s hard to manage or because certain teachers don’t want to come back is crazy. If not now, when? The risk profile will never approach zero until there’s a vaccine and that might be years away. From the diatribe you didn't bother to read the IP was saying that the TEACHERS are at more risk than the students. Recent medical observations are showing that even asymptomatic kids are actually experiencing damage to their bodies. Look I get it - you think it is all a hoax. The boggieman in the WH said it will all disappear when it gets warm out....Hmmmm.....not happening is it? No it is getting worse....hmm....now the boogieman wants to hide the data. Almost 140k people and their families just might disagree with you but what the hey they are a hoax too. Right? SMFH...
Chef Jim Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Kwai San said: From the diatribe you didn't bother to read the IP was saying that the TEACHERS are at more risk than the students. Recent medical observations are showing that even asymptomatic kids are actually experiencing damage to their bodies. Look I get it - you think it is all a hoax. The boggieman in the WH said it will all disappear when it gets warm out....Hmmmm.....not happening is it? No it is getting worse....hmm....now the boogieman wants to hide the data. Almost 140k people and their families just might disagree with you but what the hey they are a hoax too. Right? SMFH... He thinks this is all a hoax? Where do you get that from his post? And good job turning he post into your opportunity to "Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump". Welcome! We need more TDSers here. 2
Cinga Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, Kwai San said: From the diatribe you didn't bother to read the IP was saying that the TEACHERS are at more risk than the students. Recent medical observations are showing that even asymptomatic kids are actually experiencing damage to their bodies. Look I get it - you think it is all a hoax. The boggieman in the WH said it will all disappear when it gets warm out....Hmmmm.....not happening is it? No it is getting worse....hmm....now the boogieman wants to hide the data. Almost 140k people and their families just might disagree with you but what the hey they are a hoax too. Right? SMFH... Google can't find that for me. Do you have a link?
Chef Jim Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cinga said: Google can't find that for me. Do you have a link? You may want to wash it off first. I'm pretty sure I know where he's pulling it from. 2
Cinga Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: You may want to wash it off first. I'm pretty sure I know where he's pulling it from. That is more information than I needed..... ?
B-Man Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 ‘Stunning’ statistic out of Philadelphia shows why schools MUST fully open this fall
3rdnlng Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Kwai San said: From the diatribe you didn't bother to read the IP was saying that the TEACHERS are at more risk than the students. Recent medical observations are showing that even asymptomatic kids are actually experiencing damage to their bodies. Look I get it - you think it is all a hoax. The boggieman in the WH said it will all disappear when it gets warm out....Hmmmm.....not happening is it? No it is getting worse....hmm....now the boogieman wants to hide the data. Almost 140k people and their families just might disagree with you but what the hey they are a hoax too. Right? SMFH... Congratulations, this post is in the running for Most Disingenuous Post of the Day. Don't come running down the aisle just yet though, we haven't heard much from Section8 yet. 1 1
IDBillzFan Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I edited to add the cost of making a trust can be prohibitive for some people. CA was horrible. I spent over $5K getting my trust set up, and that was a drop in the bucket compared to what CA does to your assets if you don't have one set up.
KD in CA Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Congratulations, this post is in the running for Most Disingenuous Post of the Day. Don't come running down the aisle just yet though, we haven't heard much from Section8 yet. I'm a little disappointed he couldn't do a better job on the soundbites. He got the "all a hoax" corner square but missed "Faux news" and "Trumpian". 9 minutes ago, B-Man said: ‘Stunning’ statistic out of Philadelphia shows why schools MUST fully open this fall Yep...that's the rub. Seems like we don't have much agreement or framework* around what our risk tolerance is for having kids in schools with precautions vs. taking the 'zero risk' approach that now seems to be the default response for teachers' unions and those who have tested positive for TDS. * and yes, Trump does deserve some blame here for the absentee leadership. I am becoming convinced that is going to cost him the election.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, ALF said: Teachers are so worried about returning to school that they're preparing wills https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/us/coronavirus-teachers-preparing-wills/index.html Throw in flu season and it is more stress If a person who "teaches" needs worldwide pandemic to be inspired to execute a will and health care proxy, they probably should not be teaching. Jesus, this is pathetic. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: CA was horrible. I spent over $5K getting my trust set up, and that was a drop in the bucket compared to what CA does to your assets if you don't have one set up. Each of our trusts were a significant cost due to privacy issues (not NYS trusts). The cost can be a concern for people.
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, TH3 said: So you have seen or done the math and extrapolations huh? Done the projections that kids - while having a low death rate - are likely to continue spreading the virus with schools acting as a transmission conduit that had not yet existed...and in light of a non-existent test and trace system - will continue the unabated spread. in red states like FLA. But perhaps you know this and can show how this result is worse than sending kids to school with these "large studies" that independent agencies have performed.... The extrapolations have been done by people who recognize that young healthy people are just as likely to die from the Flu as from Covid. Covid is dangerous to people over the age 70 and people who have other health issues. In recognition of this I have had to limit my contact with my parents who are both healthy but older. Basically schools opening are not anymore dangerous to the students, and I expect parents to help keeps students who are infected away from the most vulnerable unlike NY did. 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: If a person who "teaches" needs worldwide pandemic to be inspired to execute a will and health care proxy, they probably should not be teaching. Jesus, this is pathetic. I have had a will since I was 28 when my first kid showed up, it is what responsible people do.
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