Doc Brown Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Would cost around three million against the cap. Could be an upgrade at #2 TE if healthy. 1
RaoulDuke79 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Love him when he played for the Canes. He's better than anyone we have at TE until Knox learns to catch. 7
mushypeaches Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 I think we have enough tight ends on this team already, and I'd like to see what the young ones (Knox, Sweeney, Croom) look like this fall before I start trading away draft choices for someone else's disgruntled guy (who hasn't proven a whole heck of a lot yet either). And also pay him $3M or more when we're trying to budget for future extensions 5 1
oldmanfan Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 People get on Croom a lot but to me it looks like he has potential 1 1
billsfan89 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 I would actually be interested if I were the Bills. I would look to trade Kroft and a 2021 fifth for him. The Browns get back a viable backup TE to replace the depth and pocket a pick. The Bills get a young TE who could work in tandem with Knox. BUT I doubt that they make the move. The FO seems to like Kroft for some reason and I do think they rightfully believe in Knox long term. 5
MAJBobby Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) Make this happen. Njoku - TE 1 Knox - TE 2. ABSOLUTELY. Edited July 3, 2020 by MAJBobby 8
Saxum Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Browns still would need a TE - trade one of our veteran ones. 1
NewEra Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: I think we have enough tight ends on this team already, and I'd like to see what the young ones (Knox, Sweeney, Croom) look like this fall before I start trading away draft choices for someone else's disgruntled guy (who hasn't proven a whole heck of a lot yet either). And also pay him $3M or more when we're trying to budget for future extensions “We have enough tight ends”......wth is wrong with you people that say this? how many of those tight ends are GOOD? currently, none. knox has a chance to be, but when you drop 20% of your targets you aren’t good. kroft, Sweeney and croom are afterthoughts for most franchises imo. Smith is a glorified OL that commits as many penalties as minutes played. having “enough good tight ends” is what we should be striving for that being said, I’m not a big fan of Njoku. I don’t feel he is much better than Knox, if better at all.....but I feel he’s certainly better than the rest. I wouldn’t give up a 2-4th rd pick for him but I’d consider a 5th. 2
Doc Brown Posted July 3, 2020 Author Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I would actually be interested if I were the Bills. I would look to trade Kroft and a 2021 fifth for him. The Browns get back a viable backup TE to replace the depth and pocket a pick. The Bills get a young TE who could work in tandem with Knox. BUT I doubt that they make the move. The FO seems to like Kroft for some reason and I do think they rightfully believe in Knox long term. Just the fact that they showed interest in Olsen tells me they aren't sold on Kroft (and possibly Knox). It's not out of the realm that Beane would take a low risk/high reward chance on a former first round pick. 1
NewEra Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He would be our #1 TE. Yes. Yes. Yes. What would you be ok trading for him? i see people wanting to trade one of our TEs not named Knox and low picks. Assume the Browns don’t want any of those bum TEs, what round draft pick would you be ok trading for him
billsfan89 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: “We have enough tight ends”......wth is wrong with you people that say this? how many of those tight ends are GOOD? currently, none. knox has a chance to be, but when you drop 20% of your targets you aren’t good. kroft, Sweeney and croom are afterthoughts for most franchises imo. Smith is a glorified OL that commits as many penalties as minutes played. having “enough good tight ends” is what we should be striving for that being said, I’m not a big fan of Njoku. I don’t feel he is much better than Knox, if better at all.....but I feel he’s certainly better than the rest. I wouldn’t give up a 2-4th rd pick for him but I’d consider a 5th. Having a quantity of a position is worthless if the quality stinks. The TE position is by far the weakest on the team in my opinion. Knox is raw but could develop, Sweeney I see more as developing into a quality backup, Kroft is often hurt and nothing more than a JAG when out there and Lee Smith is a specialist who need dwindles and I am not sure how good he is at his specialty. Overall I think that if this team could land Njoku at a good price he would immediately improve the TE situation. 3
ALF Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 With the salary cap likely to go down after this season if no fans , roll over as much as possible.
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 I think we already have our injured TE in Kroft and I have yet to see where Njoku is a huge upgrade for us. I would not hate move but I hope we trade him for a 5th or less. 1
billsfan89 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Just the fact that they showed interest in Olsen tells me they aren't sold on Kroft (and possibly Knox). It's not out of the realm that Beane would take a low risk/high reward chance on a former first round pick. They looked at Olsen before they restructured Kroft into his one year deal. I think they weren't completely sold on Kroft but didn't want to spend big either especially after Kroft took a cut in pay and had his deal expire after 2020. I would say a trade here is not impossible but unlikely. Edited July 3, 2020 by billsfan89 1
Mr. WEO Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: I think we have enough tight ends on this team already, and I'd like to see what the young ones (Knox, Sweeney, Croom) look like this fall before I start trading away draft choices for someone else's disgruntled guy (who hasn't proven a whole heck of a lot yet either). And also pay him $3M or more when we're trying to budget for future extensions Enough JAGS at TE. I would trade for Njoku in a heartbeat. 3 1
NewEra Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Having a quantity of a position is worthless if the quality stinks. The TE position is by far the weakest on the team in my opinion. Knox is raw but could develop, Sweeney I see more as developing into a quality backup, Kroft is often hurt and nothing more than a JAG when out there and Lee Smith is a specialist who need dwindles and I am not sure how good he is at his specialty. Overall I think that if this team could land Njoku at a good price he would immediately improve the TE situation. Agreed. Our TEs are weak
Rc2catch Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 I’d give a 4th and be ok tossing in a backup offensive lineman or one of the vet tight ends for him. I think Knox has Ertz kinda potential but if he’s hurt we have no more athleticism at tight end. Njoku has some big time potential as well. I also would not want him to go to help the other teams in the East. Darnold probably needs him and would use him more than anyone.
GunnerBill Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: What would you be ok trading for him? i see people wanting to trade one of our TEs not named Knox and low picks. Assume the Browns don’t want any of those bum TEs, what round draft pick would you be ok trading for him I'd start with a #4 and a #6. I might be tempted to part with a #3.
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