If Trump loses and refuses to leave

[reddogblitz]

On 12/20/2020 at 5:08 AM, Niagara Bill said:

I am ignoring 18,000,000 illnesses and 300,000 deaths for my own political good

 

Is Operation Warp Speed part of ignoring the pandemic?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

15 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

I used to think that Trump should be left alone after leaving office so as to let the sleeping dog lie and avoid years of divisiveness that surely would flow from his prosecution.  Not anymore.  The voter fraud hoax is just too much for me.  And, to top it off, he won't lift a finger against the Russian hack for reasons known only to him and Putin.  So now I'm on the side of we need to prosecute him aggressively and see where things end up.  No more kid gloves for this fool. 

Are you thinking they go after him under the Sleeping Dog Doctrine or the Finger Lift Statute? 
 

Both are aggressive plays for sure, and would turn Washington on its ear. 
 

 

[TBBills]

On 12/18/2020 at 1:26 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

See , this story to me is 'enemy of the people' type propaganda.  Or at least, it's enemy of reasonable thought and easily accessible information. 

 

Here's a story from November:

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/27/trump-says-he-will-leave-white-house-if-electoral-college-votes-for-biden.html

 

So, on the one hand, CNN runs a story that reads like a bad National Enquirer story, complete with frustrated "aides" dropping f-bombs and but seemingly powerless to leave their position followed up with anonymous sources purported to opine about whether or not DJT will attend Biden's swearing in. 

 

On the other hand you have a direct quote from the president from a  press conference stating that he will leave, yet that doesn't make it into the CNN story.  

 

 

That first story was before the election when Trump thought he was gonna win and would be able to commit voter fraud, the other story was something he was saying last week.

Edited December 23, 2020 by TBBills

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

That first story was before the election when Trump thought he was gonna win and would be able to commit voter fraud, the other story was something he was saying last week.

Put aside your hatred for 20 seconds. 
 

The story uses anonymous sources to create a narrative.  In essence it’s a rumor backed up by nothing concrete whatsoever.  I certainly understand if it flips your trigger—that’s the reason they write stories like that to begin with—they manipulate those willing to be manipulated due to hatred, naïveté, or their own personal bias.  
 

On the other hand, there is a statement from the subject of the hit piece less than 60 days earlier that paints an entirely different picture.  They chose not to cite that statement, and one if left to wonder why.  
 

Well, I don’t wonder why.  It’s psychological grooming 101, I’m just surprised people fall for it in 2020.  

[TBBills]

36 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

Well, I don’t wonder why.  It’s psychological grooming 101, I’m just surprised people fall for it in 2020.  

That is exactly what is said about people that follow Trump.

 

It's fun watching you pretend like you are the smartest man in the room.

Edited December 23, 2020 by TBBills

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

14 minutes ago, TBBills said:

That is exactly what is said about people that follow Trump.

 

It's fun watching you pretend like you are the smartest man in the room.

Focus. This isn’t about Trump, it’s not about me, it’s about you.  You’re so turned around you’re pointing to people you despise to validate your thought process.  
 

As for your voyeuristic tendencies, I’m a little creeped out, but I admit it’s nice to be noticed. 

[TBBills]

48 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Focus. This isn’t about Trump, it’s not about me, it’s about you.  You’re so turned around you’re pointing to people you despise to validate your thought process.  
 

As for your voyeuristic tendencies, I’m a little creeped out, but I admit it’s nice to be noticed. 

I understand you're trying to spin the propaganda thing, only problem with that is it isn't propaganda if it really happened.

[SectionC3]

7 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Are you thinking they go after him under the Sleeping Dog Doctrine or the Finger Lift Statute? 
 

Both are aggressive plays for sure, and would turn Washington on its ear. 
 

 

He’s got more problems in NYC than he does in DC. 

[Niagara Bill]

7 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Is Operation Warp Speed part of ignoring the pandemic?

No it is not....but he refused to acknowledge the deaths, basically saying cost of doing business. Couldn't bring himself to say masks are part of saving lives. Etc etc etc. He thought his time was more well spend blaming others. He took the bows for stopping travel from China, then walked away from dealing with the virus.

[transplantbillsfan]

7 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Put aside your hatred for 20 seconds. 
 

The story uses anonymous sources to create a narrative.  In essence it’s a rumor backed up by nothing concrete whatsoever.  I certainly understand if it flips your trigger—that’s the reason they write stories like that to begin with—they manipulate those willing to be manipulated due to hatred, naïveté, or their own personal bias.  
 

On the other hand, there is a statement from the subject of the hit piece less than 60 days earlier that paints an entirely different picture.  They chose not to cite that statement, and one if left to wonder why.  
 

Well, I don’t wonder why.  It’s psychological grooming 101, I’m just surprised people fall for it in 2020.  

 

Thank you for establishing one of the central problems of the last 4 years and acknowledging you're one of the worst culprits.

 

Just because you've lost all faith in journalistic integrity due to a handful of cherry picked mistakes or lies among a VAST majority of things that have been proven verifiably true doesn't make the reporting done by those journalists "rumors."

 

Let's be real for a moment here... put Donald Trump and journalism side by side for a moment--who's more likely to tell the truth?

 

We all know Trump lies ALL THE TIME!!! That's why his claim he'd leave the White House peacefully is much less believable than the credible anonymous reporting saying otherwise.

Edited December 24, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[Kemp]

Has he conceded, yet? 

 

Nope.

 

It's far more important to keep obstructing justice and to dismantle the democracy. Anything to save his own orange skin.

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

11 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Thank you for establishing one of the central problems of the last 4 years and acknowledging you're one of the worst culprits.

 

Just because you've lost all faith in journalistic integrity due to a handful of cherry picked mistakes or lies among a VAST majority of things that have been proven verifiably true doesn't make the reporting done by those journalists "rumors."

 

Let's be real for a moment here... put Donald Trump and journalism side by side for a moment--who's more likely to tell the truth?

 

We all know Trump lies ALL THE TIME!!! That's why his claim he'd leave the White House peacefully is much less believable than the credible anonymous reporting saying otherwise.

Oh my, I've awakened the sleeping media apologist of Mililani Mauka!  

 

So, if I read you right--one of the 'central problems of the last 4 years' is me responding to a posting that someone else here cherry picked, offering perspective on 'anonymous sourcing' with no context v including a direct quote from 117 hours earlier and I'm the 'central problem'?  

 

Thats high level  tom foolery, my man, but kudos to you for charging up the hill on this particular issue.  As an aside--I think it's telling that you would place this type of interaction at the top of the problem chart over the past four years--and especially over the past 12 months.  It speaks volumes about your particular situation v the struggles others might be having, but again, that's simply because you're part of the system and the system always get fed well. 

 

If I'm understanding you right--this issue boils down to:

 

• The media is always right;
• When the media is not right, it's a typo. 

 

I'll be real witcha too---blind trust in your media gods is foolish.  Always.  Blind trust in anonymous sourcing from 'deep within' makes the believer a dimwit.  Always.  You always have the right to demand more.   You precious media conglomerates are profit-driven enterprises by nature, it's acceptable to call them out on crap like this.  You won't lose your lib card, and you may still walk away believing the double secret secretary's cousin's friends uncle who says Trump ain't leaving, but I'm not sure why you're picking this particular topic to draw a line in the sand? 

 

By the way, it's not just a media thing, you shouldn't blindly trust anyone:

 

• bankers/cell phone providers/attorneys/school teachers/priests/insurance salesmen/police officers/seamstresses/government employees and so on...

 

See on your side, someone daring to question the status quo is the problem.  To me, it's the solution. In this case, you went out of your way to paint me as a conspiracy theorist when I simply replied to a post about DJT refusing to leave the White House (in a thread entitled If Trump Loses and Refuses to Leave).  I  included a link to bolster my claim that the article was either intentionally manipulative or woefully lacking in providing the reader with relevant information.   That makes me the problem?  GTFOH!

 

As for Trump v Media--it's not even close.  Stack the media v the 48 months of the US of Trump and the media fails miserably.  You know that, I know that, and my boy @Bob in Mich knows that as well.  I've long said that while the media with it's highly placed sources missed on virtually every significant report on Russia Russia Russia, I don't always know if it's due to incompetence or malfeasance.  I mean I do, but let's pretend you're right and there's an alternate explanation.  You wrote it off as 947 bad reporting days in a row, I think you go out of your way to explain away troubling behavior just as you did with a certain presidential candidate.  

 

But here's the cool thing--in spite of your heart-wrenching angst over Trump and lies--and man, this was powerful emotional stuff here--you were able to suck it all up and get a 5 decade liar of your own into the WH. 

 

On the other hand--you made me laugh today, Transpy, and laughter is good for the soul in the troubling times that some of us face.  In the end, I simply reject your fundamental belief system of "WaPost Uber Alles'.   

 

Found this picture from your 'Transpy Loves Joe and the Media' folder

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

46 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

 

As for Trump v Media--it's not even close.  Stack the media v the 48 months of the US of Trump and the media fails miserably.  You know that, I know that, and my boy @Bob in Mich knows that as well.  I've long said that while the media with it's highly placed sources missed on virtually every significant report on Russia Russia Russia, I don't always know if it's due to incompetence or malfeasance.  I mean I do, but let's pretend you're right and there's an alternate explanation.  You wrote it off as 947 bad reporting days in a row, I think you go out of your way to explain away troubling behavior just as you did with a certain presidential candidate.  

 

 

 

Russia was not a hoax. Too bad you swallowed the propaganda and continue to ***** it out.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

11 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Russia was not a hoax. Too bad you swallowed the propaganda and continue to ***** it out.

Russia was a hoax as sold to the American public, especially to the most gullible that walk amongst us.  We now know, for example, that the CIA briefed the Obama admin as early as 2016 about the origins of the Steele dossier and the Clinton campaign's fingers in that pie.  Yet...throughout 2016...2017...2018...not a peep from the Obama peeps, the former director of the CIA, nor Biden hisself.   So, that little gem is kept secret as you and your couch potato barbarians are screaming for blood and agonizing over the future of the republic.  

 

In fairness, Biden may have forgotten about it, and maybe Dr. Jill didn't mention in during the canasta game(s) from 2-3:30 m/w/f.  Regardless, media outlets like das VaPo with all it's inroads and deep sources missed all of that.  Certainly, it could be rank incompetence, or deceptive sourcing from those that shall not be named, but the point remains the same.  

 

Drink deeply from the media = untouchable well, my brother.  Certainly history is on your side that people in the propaganda business can be trusted implicitly.  

[Thurmal34]

He can’t refuse. He will be escorted out unceremoniously. 

That said, after this, it’s clear that there is one party that is anti democracy in this country. If a more competent, less narcissistic, bigger picture thinker had been in charge that may have been the last election we ever saw. 
 

“Ruling party attacks democratic process for 48 straight days after suffering defeat”. 
 

America. 

5 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Russia was a hoax as sold to the American public, especially to the most gullible that walk amongst us.  We now know, for example, that the CIA briefed the Obama admin as early as 2016 about the origins of the Steele dossier and the Clinton campaign's fingers in that pie.  Yet...throughout 2016...2017...2018...not a peep from the Obama peeps, the former director of the CIA, nor Biden hisself.   So, that little gem is kept secret as you and your couch potato barbarians are screaming for blood and agonizing over the future of the republic.  

 

In fairness, Biden may have forgotten about it, and maybe Dr. Jill didn't mention in during the canasta game(s) from 2-3:30 m/w/f.  Regardless, media outlets like das VaPo with all it's inroads and deep sources missed all of that.  Certainly, it could be rank incompetence, or deceptive sourcing from those that shall not be named, but the point remains the same.  

 

Drink deeply from the media = untouchable well, my brother.  Certainly history is on your side that people in the propaganda business can be trusted implicitly.  

I am so sorry man. We share a love of the Bills so I know you have fiber. Find it now. In what world is EVERYONE wrong except for the con man?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, Thurmal34 said:

He can’t refuse. He will be escorted out unceremoniously. 

That said, after this, it’s clear that there is one party that is anti democracy in this country. If a more competent, less narcissistic, bigger picture thinker had been in charge that may have been the last election we ever saw. 
 

“Ruling party attacks democratic process for 48 straight days after suffering defeat”. 
 

America. 

I am so sorry man. We share a love of the Bills so I know you have fiber. Find it now. In what world is EVERYONE wrong except for the con man?

Thanks for the acknowledgment about fiber.  I do have it friend, you might be surprised to find that I’m a good and decent human being.  
 

Russia = Trump = Treason was flat out bull####.  Those who bought it did so in large part because they’re gullible and emotional souls.  In this regard, the con man (your words) was the victim of politics run amok.  Why you and yours cling to the narrative is anyone’s guess. 

[Bob in Mich]

3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 I do have it friend, you might be surprised to find that I’m a good and decent human being.  
 

Shocked!  I would be utterly shocked. Lol

 

Have a Merry Christmas, Lonnie!

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said:

Shocked!  I would be utterly shocked. Lol

 

Have a Merry Christmas, Lonnie!

Amen Brother—good to hear from you and I hope you are well. 
 

Merry Christmas Boyo. 

[Thurmal34]

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Thanks for the acknowledgment about fiber.  I do have it friend, you might be surprised to find that I’m a good and decent human being.  

 

Russia = Trump = Treason was flat out bull####.  Those who bought it did so in large part because they’re gullible and emotional souls.  In this regard, the con man (your words) was the victim of politics run amok.  Why you and yours cling to the narrative is anyone’s guess. 

I know you are! I believe that to my core! Different sets of beliefs and ideas do NOT mean "bad person/enemy". 

 

Uhh, well, i'm not so sure about that, i mean i'm not sure how productive it is to argue about it but the law and order president was accused by our nation's law and order apparatus of encouraging or at the very least not reporting a foreign attack on our republic. His response was to attack the law and order apparatus. I hope we can move on, but one thing should be very clear - Americans are not your enemy. No matter what Fox news told you.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

8 hours ago, Thurmal34 said:

I know you are! I believe that to my core! Different sets of beliefs and ideas do NOT mean "bad person/enemy". 

 

Uhh, well, i'm not so sure about that, i mean i'm not sure how productive it is to argue about it but the law and order president was accused by our nation's law and order apparatus of encouraging or at the very least not reporting a foreign attack on our republic. His response was to attack the law and order apparatus. I hope we can move on, but one thing should be very clear - Americans are not your enemy. No matter what Fox news told you.

Disappointing.  The Fox News angle is the stuff of the small-minded, especially in light of the outcome of the “law and order” Mueller Witch Project.  Surely we can hope for more from the apparatus than a confused old man babbling in front of Congress, seemingly unfamiliar with the content of the report written on his behalf.  
 

This was not the Christmas miracle I had hoped for.