Virgil Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 I hope Trump steps in and names them. ...grabs popcorn 1
First Round Bust Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 being a resident of the Wash DC area for 40 years now the best name the Wash Post came up: Indigenous peoples of the Chesapeake Bay Watershed Region...catchy no ?
JMF2006 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Beast said: https://wtop.com/washington-redskins/2020/07/fedex-asks-washington-redskins-to-change-name/ Also, Nike has just pulled all Redskins merchandise. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2898699-nike-appears-to-remove-all-washington-nfl-team-apparel-from-online-store This will be interesting to see if Snyder caves in to the cancel culture. Are the KC Chiefs next? Atlanta Braves? the list of Indian names goes on and on. I don't see this a cancel culture....Redskin is a derogatory term for Native North Americans. I think the Cleveland Indians are getting rid of Chief Whahoo as their mascot. Besides as long as Snyder owns the team they should be called the Generals 1
Beast Posted July 3, 2020 Author Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I don't see this a cancel culture....Redskin is a derogatory term for Native North Americans. I think the Cleveland Indians are getting rid of Chief Whahoo as their mascot. Besides as long as Snyder owns the team they should be called the Generals I don’t disagree at all with anything you just wrote but I guarantee they go after those other Indian derived mascot names.
aceman_16 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Capco said: So, if the Bills name was to be changed for this reason would you view that as consistent or cherry picking? IF someone wanted the Redskins changed, THEN would expect them to want the Bills name changed - yes.
JMF2006 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, Beast said: I don’t disagree at all with anything you just wrote but I guarantee they go after those other Indian derived mascot names. I think Chiefs,Braves and Indians are ok there is no racial slur in those names. 1 minute ago, aceman_16 said: IF someone wanted the Redskins changed, THEN would expect them to want the Bills name changed - yes. Why?
aceman_16 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Some Native Americans view the name as offensive as the "n" word is to black people. This is in a different category as there has been calls to change the name since the early 90's. Don't conflate it with the "cancel culture" of today. It isn't "conflating" it is being intellectually/morally consistent. What is more harmful to someone's feelings....being called a Redskin or being constantly reminded (and cheering for) someone who slaughtered "your people" (think of being the Buffalo KKKs). Remember.... I am not personally calling for changes, however, I am pointing out to be careful of what one asks for.
JMF2006 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: It isn't "conflating" it is being intellectually/morally consistent. What is more harmful to someone's feelings....being called a Redskin or being constantly reminded (and cheering for) someone who slaughtered "your people" (think of being the Buffalo KKKs). Remember.... I am not personally calling for changes, however, I am pointing out to be careful of what one asks for. Buffalo Bill had Wild West Shows that featured Native North Americans in a positive way. 1
SirAndrew Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I don't see this a cancel culture....Redskin is a derogatory term for Native North Americans. I think the Cleveland Indians are getting rid of Chief Whahoo as their mascot. Besides as long as Snyder owns the team they should be called the Generals Cancel culture and insults are two different entities. How well would it go over if the Buffalo NFL team were given the name of an ethnic slur for one of Buffalo’s numerous white ethnic groups ?
Big Gun Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Snyder should just threaten to move the team. They'll quickly stop their BS. 2
aceman_16 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Buffalo Bill had Wild West Shows that featured Native North Americans in a positive way. Do some research....yes he paraded them out in a "positive light" in their regalia riding horses (as well as other cultures like the Spaniards and Arabs) but for his shows, he hired Native Americans to play the part of “wild Indians” whom he and his “Indian Fighters” would dramatically act-out how to defeat and kill them (for a fact check read Louis Warren's "Cody's Last Stand: Masculine Anxiety, the Custer Myth, and the Frontier of Domesticity in Buffalo Bill's Wild West" among dozens other articles/books). Edited July 3, 2020 by aceman_16 grammar
SectionC3 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 10 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: Nope. The Washington Red Tails. WWII African American pilots. Can keep the color scheme and stylized “R”. I think Red Tails would be really cool. Snyder trademarked "Bravehearts" a couple of years ago, though, so that's my bet.
BringBackFergy Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Moving a statue into a museum and out of public spaces isn't asking people to get over their history. It's asking the government and the country to revere people who deserve some reverence rather than people who chose to fight for a truly abhorrent system. I agree with anyone out there who thinks that political correctness has gone too far. But particularly in the case of the statues in state capitols and statues which were raised far after the Civil War and in many cases with specific racist agendas, I think people are right to call for them to be removed. I agree. And why stop with statues? Get rid of massive memorials and monuments as well. Build more casinos!! https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505474-second-tribal-leader-calls-for-removal-of-mount-rushmore-before-trump?amp
Mr. WEO Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Beast said: Oh, I didn’t know FED EX, Nike, Coke, Pepsi and others demanded the Redskins change their name back in 1969. I thought it was today this all came out. Thanks for clearing that up for me. So despite a steady call for many years by countless public and private citizens, editorials, millions of column inches in newspapers and the internet all over the world, it's only "severe pressure" when Coke and Fedex make these types of marketing moves and "demand" a name change?
thenorthremembers Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Change the name to Sentors like the team from 1921 and be done with this. Then hope PETA doesnt pressure teams with animal names. Then hope victim activists dont call for the Raiders, Vikings and Bucs to change their name. Seriously though should anyones opinion on this subject outside of Native American's really count? I would imagine they are probably more concerned with the incredible poverty the US government left them in but who knows.
RiotAct Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: So despite a steady call for many years by countless public and private citizens, editorials, millions of column inches in newspapers and the internet all over the world, it's only "severe pressure" when Coke and Fedex make these types of marketing moves and "demand" a name change? yep!
SoCal Deek Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Native Americans are being oppressed in this country? Really? Where exactly? All I see is people getting rich owning a share of your local casino. And....Good for them! 1
RaoulDuke79 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: So despite a steady call for many years by countless public and private citizens, editorials, millions of column inches in newspapers and the internet all over the world, it's only "severe pressure" when Coke and Fedex make these types of marketing moves and "demand" a name change? Its all about those dolla bills. The people complaining about about capitalism and big business should also be thanking them, because they have the clout to make the dial move. Edited July 3, 2020 by RaoulDuke79
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