Buffalo716 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, Robert James said: I didn't want to personalize it, so I chose to make my point from a broader perspective. I think the broader perspective is important because, whether or not we advocated for it, it reflects the country we live in. I also think we should take that reality into account when evaluating the NFL's efforts to acknowledge the profound problems with the way black Americans have been treated in our democracy. Seen from that perspective, I don't think playing the Black National Anthem once is much of a burden. Thanks for the well thought out reply 1
RiotAct Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 49 minutes ago, Robert James said: I didn't want to personalize it, so I chose to make my point from a broader perspective. I think the broader perspective is important because, whether or not we advocated for it, it reflects the country we live in. I also think we should take that reality into account when evaluating the NFL's efforts to acknowledge the profound problems with the way black Americans have been treated in our democracy. Seen from that perspective, I don't think playing the Black National Anthem once is much of a burden. I agree. it’s a non-issue (although it ain’t gonna change anything).
Just in Atlanta Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) We must unify by having a national anthem for the white folks and a black national anthem for the black folks. We must be color blind by seeing that racism is the cause of everything bad that happens to one group ... and ignoring the bad things that happen to another group and seeing everything through the lens of race. If you see this as a dichotomy, or as hypocritical, or as counter-productive, you're not woke. Edited July 3, 2020 by Just in Atlanta 1
unbillievable Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 A problem will arise when they start showing how people react to the song being played. Will people at the stadium stand? Will players? What happens if someone respects one song, but not the other. I see fights over this.
krf139 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Isn’t a “black” national anthem racist? Just imagine if we had a “white” national anthem. I will not stand if played at any game I attend. This creates division 1
Eddiegoofball Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, krf139 said: Isn’t a “black” national anthem racist? Just imagine if we had a “white” national anthem. I will not stand if played at any game I attend. This creates division I'm so tired of this rationale. The Star Spangled banner was written in 1814 to celebrate the valor and courage of white men because women weren't allowed to fight or vote back then, black folks were slaves and most of the other colors in between who helped lay the groundwork of the melting pot that is America hadn't arrived yet. While it's expected to be a song for all Americans, it was not written from that perspective. It was written by a slave owner. Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing, the black national anthem was written in the early 1900's in the midst of Jim Crow times. It's not like it was written last week or anything. What is so threatening about equality? Edited July 3, 2020 by Eddiegoofball spelling 1 1 1
Bronxbomber21 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 20 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Does every race in America have a national anthem? I’m curious b/c this is the first time I’ve heard of a black one. Same hear and im black lol 25 minutes ago, unbillievable said: A problem will arise when they start showing how people react to the song being played. Will people at the stadium stand? Will players? What happens if someone respects one song, but not the other. I see fights over this. Or the fans and the players could just stand for both witch would bring them together
B-Man Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 5 hours ago, B-Man said: I doubt that they will sing the third verse, it's a little too............you know.....................(whispered voice) RELIGIOUS........... God of our weary yearsGod of our silent tearsThou who has brought us thus far on the wayThou who has by Thy mightLed us into the lightKeep us forever in the path, we prayLest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met TheeLest, our hearts drunk with the wine of the world, we forget TheeShadowed beneath Thy handMay we forever standTrue to our GodTrue to our native land
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Are you calling me the powers that be? I think you're confusing average white people with the people that actually run this world There are MILLIONS of white people in poverty with no wealth and no status who are struggling The average white person does not hate black people, does not put them down, and does not keep them from moving forward The average white person is fighting the same powers that be. We aren't making the laws BINGO!!!!! It's not a race thing, it's an economic thing. 95% of the population is in the same boat, but people want to color it so we fight against each other, instead of fighting against the true enemy. 2
muppy Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 I think a lot of the discussion is regarding the NFL playing the Black anthem along with the National anthem as the thread is titled. The link posted states this is going to occur only during ONE game, opening day. Not to stifle the discussion but what is being discussed is likely moot after the first game.
BobbyC81 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 I’m surprised the mods are letting this thread continue in this forum.
iinii Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: BINGO!!!!! It's not a race thing, it's an economic thing. 95% of the population is in the same boat, but people want to color it so we fight against each other, instead of fighting against the true enemy. I know the system is designedTo make an enemy of I and ICause all them want to do is divideSo their violence can justifiedBut I know that love is gonna conquer all the hate, ya knowIt takes love and understanding for the people to growAnd if we learn to live in love, wellWe can surely rise above, yes JahYou know the people are waking up, yeah yeah Movement a come and come Said near and far, no matter where you areYou can feel this Movement. Movement Iya.We chant a song for the people sing alongAnd we say Movement, together as oneCause no matter where you areKnow where you come fromRid the earth of separationCause this generation too strong for BabylonTogether as one Iya Terra "Movement"
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 4 hours ago, FLFan said: Of course when this song was written, with all the teary eyed omage to the free and brave, this did not include black people, who were not free, nor were they even considered human beings under our nation’s laws. They should do away with playing it before games all together. By that same logic, we should do away with all things that came before the end of slavery.
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 16 hours ago, Penfield45 said: America really isn't that special, relax don't forget "Marxist". its the new hot phrase they have been using. most of them can't even give a simple definition on the term actually. Im going to assume that you are an American, or legal resident. If you’re not, sorry. The basic and simple fact that you are allowed to have this opinion, and express it openly, is what makes America special. Many European nations have laws restricting both the press, and speech. Canada has similar laws as well. America is that special, it might do you good to take your own advice, and relax. Rejoice that you live here, and be gracious for the gift that you have.
Chicken Boo Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 For those who don't know, it's not "The Black National Anthem" in that, it is only intended for black people. It's actually called "Lift Every Voice and Sing" and it's quite beautiful. "Lift Every Voice and Sing" was publicly performed first as a poem as part of a celebration of Abraham Lincoln's birthday by Johnson's brother John. In 1919, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) dubbed it "the ***** national hymn"[2] for its power in voicing a cry for liberation and affirmation for African-American people. - wiki page 1
FLFan Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: By that same logic, we should do away with all things that came before the end of slavery. That was not the point, but carry on.
unbillievable Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Same hear and im black lol Or the fans and the players could just stand for both witch would bring them together Is the NFL going to force people to stand? We can't even agree what to do during one national anthem. Now there are two... 1 hour ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: By that same logic, we should do away with all things that came before the end of slavery. Everything that came before July 2020 is tainted.
BillsDude Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 I am too lazy to read 11 pages of this. What's the approximate percentages of posts of support versus against it, as I took a huge bet out on Sleepy Joe to beat 68%..
LB3 Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Penfield45 said: did you just call NASCAR "racist" for not allowing the confederate flag to be displayed? LOL Reading is hard.
Doc Brown Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, unbillievable said: Is the NFL going to force people to stand? We can't even agree what to do during one national anthem. Now there are two... It'll be one week and there pry won't even be fans in the stand at that point. You know it's early July when a thread like this lasts 11 pages.
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