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I thought it would have been Chafee, or maybe Hagel, but Voinivich seems to have reservations.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...o/un_ambassador

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Wonder what makes the UN so important to Democrats that they would even care enough to halt the nomination of Bolton. As a supposed bastion of the "one-worlders" it should be pretty obvious to a casual observer that the the UN's claws were clipped a while ago...assuming they even had any to begin with. Please tell me what authority the UN even has anymore?

 

Instead of a powerless body like the United Nations the Left would be better off going after a body that is truly one world and has power; The WTO.

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Colin Powell has apparently played a part in raising doubts about Bolton to some of the Repub senators.

 

I usually don't make too much of management styles, but his are a little beyond the pale. We don't need a diplomat who's going to tell everyone off, especially at a time when we need fewer enemies.

 

People try to make the UN out to be more than it is or should be. As originally conceived it was a place for diplomats of all countries to have informal or formal talks, and to settle a few international issues, like use of the oceans, etc. A great idea to 'keep the back channels open.' Then they took off from there to the morass it is today.

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Wonder what makes the UN so important to Democrats that they would even care enough to halt the nomination of Bolton. As a supposed bastion of the "one-worlders" it should be pretty obvious to a casual observer that the the UN's claws were clipped a while ago...assuming they even had any to begin with. Please tell me what authority the UN even has anymore?

 

Instead of a powerless body like the United Nations the Left would be better off going after a body that is truly one world and has power; The WTO.

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Wonder what makes the UN so important that Bush bothers to have an Ambassador? Why isn't he just telling them all to fold their tent and go home?

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Colin Powell has apparently played a part in raising doubts about Bolton to some of the Repub senators.

 

I usually don't make too much of management styles, but his are a little beyond the pale. We don't need a diplomat who's going to tell everyone off, especially at a time when we need fewer enemies.

 

People try to make the UN out to be more than it is or should be. As originally conceived it was a place for diplomats of all countries to have informal or formal talks, and to settle a few international issues, like use of the oceans, etc. A great idea to 'keep the back channels open.' Then they took off from there to the morass it is today.

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Is that an oxymoron?

 

"We don't need a diplomat who's going to tell everyone off"

 

Remember there is a faction out there that "does not "do" diplomacy"?

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can we please drop the bolton argument?  whenever i see you guys arguing about bolton, "how am i supposed ot live without you" starts running in my mind :lol:;)

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Can you play that on the cowbell?

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can we please drop the bolton argument?  whenever i see you guys arguing about bolton, "how am i supposed ot live without you" starts running in my mind :D<_<

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That is truly disgusting - I am going to request the Moderator delete the post. Yuck. Thanks for the nightmare I'm about to have. :w00t::)

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That is truly disgusting - I am going to request the Moderator delete the post.  Yuck.  Thanks for the nightmare I'm about to have.  :lol:  :lol:

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hey it worked didn't it? pretty much killed the thread :lol:

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