Lurker Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 11 hours ago, CSBill said: The surprise is Cam could only get a minimum deal. Come on, he’s better than half the starters in the league, let alone the well paid clipboard holders. .... Did he take a knee or something? It has to do with Newton picking a team and fitting the salary under the cap, not free market supply/demand economics...
bobobonators Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 I wouldve been much more concerned if they landed Jameis “crab legs” Winston 1
Lurker Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: He better win quickly because the Bahhston media won’t be as nice as the Charlotte media Agreed. A significant portion of that "fan base" will turn on him like a MF if he underperforms. Boston's actually a tough market for a guy like Newton and the pressure to follow the GOAT will be enormous. If anybody's head is going to explode, it's likely to be Cam's rather than BB's... 1
Greg S Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: That’s funny. He better win quickly because the Bahhston media won’t be as nice as the Charlotte media If the Pats finally have a bad year then the fans/media will ignore them and focus on the Sox, B's, and Celtics. That area isn't a great football market like WNY is.
Homey D. Clown Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 I have contended all offseason the patriots are still the team to beat until the Bills can actually beat them. This signing changes nothing. beat them soundly twice this year no matter who the QB is, then, and only then will the bills be the team to beat.
YoloinOhio Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, Greg S said: If the Pats finally have a bad year then the fans/media will ignore them and focus on the Sox, B's, and Celtics. That area isn't a great football market like WNY is. I found that there seemed to be a little bit of relief with them thinking this year they wouldn’t have real expectations for the Pats and were going to chalk it up as a transition year and maybe target their QB of the future in the draft. Seems to have changed now and they are back to expecting a SB contender
Greg S Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I found that there seemed to be a little bit of relief with them thinking this year they wouldn’t have real expectations for the Pats and were going to chalk it up as a transition year and maybe target their QB of the future in the draft. Seems to have changed now and they are back to expecting a SB contender With the Newton signing at least we know they won't be tanking for Trevor Lawrence. Even without Cam I figured they would win enough games with their D to keep them away from getting the #1 pick. I still think the Bills win the division. Cam is upgrade for them but he isn't the player he used to be either.
Ramza86 Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 Its a good move for the Pats. I personally believe he is still the worst qb in the AFCE. Health issues, arm has dwindled, not as mobile anymore. If a team can rejuvenate him, its the pats. Either way its a low risk move with some good upside.
DrDawkinstein Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 Dang, this certainly makes the Pats better than if they had rolled with Stidham, and I think puts them and the Bills just about even on paper. It will be a matter of who ends up 10-6 and who ends up 9-7.
prissythecat Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 59 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Who is the poster who used to have the annual Cam Newton excuse thread? ? Lol thats me. But seriously. Has Cam had a good season since his Superbowl debacle which was a 4 1/2 years ago?
SoCal Deek Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 Didn’t read through all of the comments but this reminds of when the Bills brought in Bledsoe. Hint: It didn’t work out. 1
Doc Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Didn’t read through all of the comments but this reminds of when the Bills brought in Bledsoe. Hint: It didn’t work out. LOL! I was thinking about how Newton reminds me of Bledsoe even when he was on the Cheaters. Obviously not with the running, but just a guy who was the first overall pick who, to me, never lived up to expectations and became a shell of himself. And Newton won't have near the weapons Bledsoe did.
YoloinOhio Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 12 hours ago, Big Blitz said: So why were we the favorites? That's my point. I'm saying I dont care who their QB is because our D is legit we just need to score. The Bills problem with the Pats recently has definitely been beating their defense, not as much their offense like it was in the Rex years. Adding Diggs and Moss and the continuity on the OL and system should help. This Cam thing though is a gift at this point in the offseason. The Bills have been hearing for months how they are the afc East favorites with Brady gone. The narrative is now turning, lots of these guys know Cam very well, and this provides a huge jolt and some juice to their approach imo. Hopefully they will become “underdogs” again at just the right time for McD to pump into their veins again that no one expects them to win. 2
eball Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 Are people really worried about the Pats*** signing Newton? The Pats*** offense was dogschitt last year with Brady* -- the GOAT. Their weapons are arguably worse this year. The Bills will beat the Pats*** because they have the better team, top to bottom, and Cam Newton doesn't change that. 1
DefenseWins Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 As far as I am concerned, I'd much rather BEAT New England with Cam as their QB than Stidham.
Greg S Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, eball said: Are people really worried about the Pats*** signing Newton? The Pats*** offense was dogschitt last year with Brady* -- the GOAT. Their weapons are arguably worse this year. The Bills will beat the Pats*** because they have the better team, top to bottom, and Cam Newton doesn't change that. If 2015 comes back again then I will be worried with Cam going to the Pats. In 2020 Cam doesn't move the needle that much. On paper the Bills are the best team in the division. They need to prove it on the field and I think they will. Edited June 29, 2020 by Greg S
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 6 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: Maybe Ken Dorsey can matter in this regard? Good call- forgot about him.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Greg S said: If 2015 comes back again then I will be worried with Cam going to the Pats. In 2020 Cam doesn't move the needle that much. On paper the Bills are the best team in the division. They need to prove it on the field and I think they will. I’m not sure this can be said yet. Patriots beat the bills twice last year and while losing Brady, Cam is capable of putting up the 45 passer rating that Tom did in September. Allen is flat out going to have to play QB vs pats d, better than cam does against bills D. Possible, yes, a fact written on paper? Not yet imo
Doc Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: 1yr, 7.5 million media reports Winston was a dummy.
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